Mysterious spot on radar but it's not smoke or rain -

Originally posted by charlyv
The "Radar Dudes" are not mentioning the most likely cause of the anomaly. It is most likely that the radar is in a COAC mode, (clutter operated anti-clutter) because the atmospheric conditions, even though appearing clear, are presently not optimal enough for good returns. Usually, this is used if there is an inversion layer effect in the atmosphere. Anyway, COAC is the generation of broadband noise in radar circuitry that is filtered out in real time using a Gaussian inversion (out of phase) of the injected signal. The gain obtained helps to see target data more clearly, but the presentation from the video output is going to look pretty much like what you are seeing here. Some days, you will see many radar stations on the map that may look this way, like big foggy doughnuts or patches around the location of the radar station.

That's what gives the large "blooms" around a radars location...I see it most evenings at sun down and through the night most springs. But what I posted above isn't that, it's something else. Ownbestenemy alluded that it could be maintenance issues, which may be what's causing the anomaly north of Vernon. I say that because it just started happening in the last couple of weeks. But what kind of maintenence issue would cause the radar to get a false return on the same spot, every night? Doppler's rotate...so to my, uneducated mind, one would think you would get a false return at the same distance from the radar instillation all the way through the sweep. IDK, it's puzzling.

reply to post by EdSurly


Look at the radar now; www.mesonet.org...

You can see a storm complex heading toward the area, but the anomaly is still there...same place it's been since 7:30 this evening...and every night for the last two weeks. You can see that the radar is returning good images from the approaching storm system...along with the anomaly.

Put the radar in motion and watch the red/yellow area north of Vernon...the returns just sit there as even it becomes overrun from the approaching storm.

Vernon isn't listed on this site so look at the return just south of Altus...just south of the Red River.

Originally posted by cheesy
reply to post by sean

 

is that true?? Must have AC? Creazy..

maybe some relation from nevada..they absorb the heat and release it (Using some kind of high tech machine) to uper atmosphere..than bangg..Stormy weather..

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The area there some call the Tri-state Laughlin, Nevada & Needles, California & Bullhead City, Arizona. Going to AZ was as easy as driving across a bridge over the Colorado River. The water there is high sodium and practically undrinkable. They also call it Death Valley which fits well and Death Valley Cali. As far as rain goes I experienced it with a massive dust/electric/flash flood storm.

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Not a chemtrail...

2nd

Originally posted by Staroth
Chaff Confirmed
blog.al.com...

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I wonder what are the environmental impacts of releasing that garbage into the air?

reply to post by kosmicjack


It's not very harmful in the long term, because it degrades over time, and it's released in actually pretty small bundles. But they're trying to develop "green" forms of chaff, so that it isn't harmful in the least to anything. The military has been trying to go green for years, and this is the latest way they're trying.

The original chaff was simply strips of aluminum cut into tiny pieces, that were tied into small bundles and dropped. It's advanced since then into fiberglass and other materials.

Here is the link to a story I found this morning about this.. Interesting!

www.cbs42.com...

reply to post by Zaphod58


But isn't fiberglass an irritant?

www.lung.org...

Funny how they say fiberglass isn't carcinogenic but a primary component, styrene is. : puz:

reply to post by kosmicjack


It is, but it also breaks down pretty quickly, especially in sunlight. And it's released in small bundles that look huge on radar.

reply to post by Zaphod58


However, this stayed relatively in place for hours on end, it barely moved and only slightly dissipated.

reply to post by kosmicjack


That's because this is a new type of chaff. Normal chaff will stay in the air for awhile, but it degrades quickly. As Bedlam said this is probably a type that deactivates after awhile in sunlight due to the UV.

Chaff has had to advance over the last few years due to seeker head advancements. New seekers for IR and radar missiles have made countermeasures much less effective, so they've had to improve them a lot, and quickly.

What about this capture I made yesterday??? Looks quite odd to me.



Looks like the lower portion of Canada was a shooting gallery...

Should watch out for clusters of dead birds. Maybe HAARP is singing again and punching holes in the atmosphere.

Originally posted by Gohome1122
Heres your answer.

sincedutch.wordpress.com...

Bill Nye: ‘Heat Energy In the Atmosphere’ Enlarged Recent EF5 Tornado ’16 Times’

There is a clear pattern that something unusual has been taking place, natural or not, as two EF5 tornadoes have ripped through a local swath in recent weeks. Some type of added “heat energy” in the atmosphere could be a key indicator that recent EF5′s in the region are likely a bi-product of man made experiment.

intellihub.com...

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Nice job of trying to make sound like Nye said something about the tornadoes being associated with a "man-made experiment". He didn't. Unless you think that global warming is a man-made experiment.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Nice job of trying to make sound like Nye said something about the tornadoes being associated with a "man-made experiment". He didn't. Unless you think that global warming is a man-made experiment.

Six of one half a dozen of another.

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Jesus Phage where the heck have you been hiding? Good to see you're still around.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by Gohome1122
Heres your answer.

sincedutch.wordpress.com...

Bill Nye: ‘Heat Energy In the Atmosphere’ Enlarged Recent EF5 Tornado ’16 Times’

There is a clear pattern that something unusual has been taking place, natural or not, as two EF5 tornadoes have ripped through a local swath in recent weeks. Some type of added “heat energy” in the atmosphere could be a key indicator that recent EF5′s in the region are likely a bi-product of man made experiment.

intellihub.com...

What a crock. If heat caused tornadoes we'd have them all summer long. It regularly gets to well over 100 degrees here in the summer. Teens aren't unheard of and guess what? No tornadoes. Supercell's require a temperature difference...ie warm air AND cool/cold air. We weren't experiencing any unusual heat during these two tornadoes. In fact it has been cooler than normal around here all spring. What IS unusual is the power of the cold air spilling out of the Rockies.

If Nye is stating warmer air aloft....well, if that were the case we wouldn't have had any thunderstorm activity at all. Or the thunderstorms would have been much weaker. The warmer the air aloft, the weaker the storms. The colder the air is aloft the more powerful the storms are (assuming the lower level air temp is static) No, what we had last week is a Triple Point. An occluded front, warm front and cold front converging on a single point....and that location was south of Watonga, almost right on top of Geary, OK. If you can get your hands on a radar loop of that day, you will see the spawn point clearly. The storms were birthed at that spot all evening. Pretty cool looking actually to see that one spot spewing forth the super cell for hours on end.

Originally posted by sean
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Jesus Phage where the heck have you been hiding?

Good to see you're still around.

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should be removed no?