Online Poll Shows 85% of Brits Want to Repeal the Ban on Hand Guns

Guns again?? I think all Countries are different. Japan also has a strict gun law but I dont see this debate brought up. Let the US do its thing. If the British people also want to follow suite, so be it. They have a system in place to make that a law and they actually created that system so I respect that. Otherwise, I am sure there are plenty of Brits who would love to pack heat. But, the majority has been told over generations that this is not a good thing and they changed there laws to outlaw it.

Now, the problem when you do that is when you finally understand the Criminal ALWAYS has access to a gun. In a weird way, in the US we see mass killings as a way to create gun control, in the UK we see a lone nut case and it almost creates the opposite effect.

Either way, I think everyone should have a right to have a fire arm. Or, get rid of them all, all over the Earth no matter who they are. You cant have it both ways. You cant take fire arms from the citizens and have all that fire power in the hands of the British Throne. You should also not have that much fire power in todays day in the hands of the US and not have a single citizen in the US have one.

I think it depends on the situation and it also depends on the Media. I say screw them both. I want a Gun no matter what cuz I cant trust either the situation or the Media. Sorry Brits!!!

Worth pointing out that a repeal of the law banning handguns would not mean anyone could go out, buy a gun and carry with them in public - that's a completely different issue! It would simply bring handguns in line with rifles and shotguns, which anyone in Britain can own (with a licence) but cannot carry in public (without due reason).

reply to post by seabag


FEAR and the progressive mindset that allows it to grow are to deeply ingrained in the UK populace to let this happen. It is funny how they carry on when rights they think they still have are trampled on.



We don't want to be like those cowboy Americans. Just remember you used to have the same rights but fear won out.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens

 

Why on Earth do I need a gun?

Maybe you don't.

However, you may want a hand gun in the future and it would be nice to have the right to do so. Brits should have a personal choice in the matter rather than being told what they can or can't do by their government.

It appears at least from this poll that many of your countrymen don't share your view.

I think "many" is a bit optimistic considering that the poll only accounts for 0.025% of our population. This will never come to the commons, and it will never be passed.

End of.

Originally posted by Krakatoa
reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens

 

I guess you are in the 14.24% of those in the UK that share that opinion. And you are free to have that opinion. But, what about the majority opinion? Doesn't that count for anything?

Something wrong with that poll. I live in the UK and most peeps I know do not want guns reintroduced in the UK. The Telegraph is a right wing paper. Some are still upset that guns are banned because they like to have them for hunting and stuff. It makes them feel like men or something like that. These are the same kind of people that get kicks from chasing little furry foxes around and having them minced to death by dogs..

it all boils down to the fact that no matter how many gun enthusiasts (and i am most definately one myself) want the law changed the pollies will never even bring it up for a vote, never mind actually replealing the law

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Well, I'll tell ya what. It's easy to say how many ways nothing could have helped or changed the way that man was slaughtered like an animal. It's a cheap cop-out, in my opinion.

The fact of the matter is that the human creatures your nation saw do this thing knew 100% CERTAIN that he would be unarmed....everyone around him would be unarmed and generally speaking? No one outside of a cop ..and only a real real special cop in England (Only special cops get guns, right? :shk: ) could do anything to stop or even slow them down.

You may have a point that THIS victim wouldn't have seen it coming..but then, maybe he was concious after impact. Maybe...he wasn't mercifully oblivious when they beheaded him..and it doesn't take much for a man to use a gun in defense of his life in last resort.

What is beyond question though, is these animals knew they had a safe working environment to commit their horrible act and NO ONE had the means to challenge or stop them. They knew this in advance and with certainty.

THAT is the problem with a 100% disarmed society. Criminals and Psychopaths know, without question, the world is their oyster to kill and rampage at will...with no one able to resist in any meaningful way. Have at it...and enjoy that "gunless" society. I'll live happily, with my firearms.

As a Brit I thought I'd share my two shillings. Like some people I enjoy guns I don't know why I just do. Ive done clay pigeon shooting, air rifle shooting and .22 shooting. I've also been to Latvia and fired a selection of hand guns and shot guns. However I don't see any reason why I would want a gun to keep on my person. In the 28 years of living in the same town I've never been assaulted or attacked in anyway I've never had my home broken into either.
The way I see it if the ban was lifted I'd imagine more guns would appear on the streets being used for muggings robberies and murders.

There that's my 2

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by SimonPeter

 

As for the rest….they were neutered when the government decided it was time. That's how things work over there...the government decides....EVERYTHING.

Again stupid arragant american thats knows little about the uk.

Concentrate on your own country

reply to post by seabag


Yep I too feel they should get rid of the ban on handguns. All the ban has resulted in is criminals being armed and law abiding people not being armed.

Personally I do not feel scared enough to need a gun for my safety or to protect my home. Humans have managed to survive without them and the only way I can see a truly civilized society evolving is without guns. Remember UK, if we start supporting guns we would also be supporting the expansion of the military complex. Many Americans think guns help protect the citizen which has continuously been proven wrong, also when you buy your little handgun remember the government is going to upgrade their arsenal with the money that gets poured into the industry. I would hate to see our people and families getting shot just because people are scared or want to act tough like the guys on TV.

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by seabag

 

85 percent of the people who bother to fill in an online poll is not the same thing as 85 percent of the country.
The process of asking "what different thing do you want to happen?" is automatically skewed in favour of those who want something different.

Are you saying these results mean nothing?

Or are you saying polls only mean something when there is an outcome you agree with?

Yes i think he is, because yes, that poll means nothing at all.

It is an online poll, where anyone can vote including people not in he UK, and only 15,000 people voted. The X Factor gets more votes than that, and means more than that.

Ummm....did you see where US ranked in comparison?

Are you insane?

We know full well the effect the US gun laws have on that country, mass shootings almost every month, kids getting shot by accident because they found their parents guns ect.

UK is a much much safer place than the USA, as said many times in these threads silly things like spitting at someone is considered a "violent crime" in the UK so those stats don't tell the full story.

AND bring back the COD PIECE dammit!!!

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And Spangles. They were my favourite.

reply to post by liverlad


Well I have lived in the US for 63 years and have never seen a shooting or knifing . For the most part you have to be involved in the projects or with the drug crowd to be involved in a shooting . As for the recent shootings of kids who are you kidding ? The United Nations push for abolition of guns was in trouble in Congress and all the sudden we have a completely unexplainable mass shooting of children to sway the vote . That shooting and the one in Aurora fits into the same situation as the one in Britain just before they took all your guns . There is a lot of similarities between the two . I expect another mass shooting to help get the gun ban pushed through . And all of these shootings globally were committed by young male white men on an antidepressant . Of the two here in America there were another person helping the shooters, most likely the actual shooter while the supposed shooter gets caught . In Sandy Hook there was a man running from the school detained in dressed in camo and released later . False flag comes to mind . Most likely the same thing over in the UK but you people trust in your Queen to much to ever question your governments agenda . All those cameras should tell you something but it doesn't get through does it ..

Here in the Uk the police try and make everything a violent crime....it keeps them in a job

But we have it reasonably well sorted in blighty...want a shotgun...fill out a form and get it stamped then head to the gun shop and pickup your gun and required ammo to slap in your gun safe, want something a bit more then all you need to do is have a need for it and you can easy end up with a nice rifle or even a semi automatic, i suppose the difference is that in america has more choice and a bit less paper work but if you f-- up they'll take it away from you either side of the pond

and the thought of a friday or saturday night with chavs & white lightning + guns = no fricken way...we'd need to legislate alcohol to the same level as the USA and what brit fancies being 21 before they can have a drink 16 years after whats currently allowed

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by liverlad

 

Well I have lived in the US for 63 years and have never seen a shooting or knifing . For the most part you have to be involved in the projects or with the drug crowd to be involved in a shooting . As for the recent shootings of kids who are you kidding ? The United Nations push for abolition of guns was in trouble in Congress and all the sudden we have a completely unexplainable mass shooting of children to sway the vote . That shooting and the one in Aurora fits into the same situation as the one in Britain just before they took all your guns . There is a lot of similarities between the two . I expect another mass shooting to help get the gun ban pushed through . And all of these shootings globally were committed by young male white men on an antidepressant . Of the two here in America there were another person helping the shooters, most likely the actual shooter while the supposed shooter gets caught . In Sandy Hook there was a man running from the school detained in dressed in camo and released later . False flag comes to mind . Most likely the same thing over in the UK but you people trust in your Queen to much to ever question your governments agenda . All those cameras should tell you something but it doesn't get through does it ..

False flags my arse, you just think that because it fits your views. It was just nutters who could get hold of lethal weapons too easily. Almost a mass shooting each month in the USA, are they all false flags? Nope, just too many idiots with guns in your country.

85% of 18,000 people in Britain want their guns back. If the entire country voted I'm assuming it would be atleast over 50%...I'd love for someone to rub this in the face of Piers Morgan.

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
85% of 18,000 people in Britain want their guns back. If the entire country voted I'm assuming it would be atleast over 50%...I'd love for someone to rub this in the face of Piers Morgan.

Not quite true that,let's assume that the poll was filled in purely by telegraph readers.

They had 6 options;
Q1-a fixed term for prime minister? Well to be true I expect most telegraph readers are quite happy with Cameron

Q2-a flat tax? I thought this would be higher,but it is second place.

Q3-more green land? Most telegraph readers are quite happy with there little plots thank you.

Q4-child maintenance? Doesn't really affect your average Telegraph reader.

Q5-spitting? lol,I thought this was already illegal,but I might be wrong,and again Mr and Mrs TG couldn't give two hoots

And so to Q6;

Gun ownership? Well of the six, then that's the only one that might affect them,
why not have a few guns to keep around the estate?
It'd be jolly fun to get drunk a fire them off! Wot wot,let's vote for that one !

Totally flawed from the conception.....