Father of man FBI shot claims his son was executed

Father of man FBI shot claims his son was executed

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The father of a Florida man with ties to Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev said Thursday that his son was slain "execution-style" by FBI agents last week in Orlando.

Ibragim Todashev, a 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter, was shot in his Florida home on May 22 while an FBI agent and two Massachusetts state troopers questioned him about his ties to the late Boston Marathon bombing suspect, as well as a triple slaying in Massachusetts two years ago.

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Suspect interviewed was unarmed.

So the father of the young man who was killed by the FBI is now coming out and saying that the FBI killed him execution style. Earlier there had been reports that he was armed, he was trying to arm himself, or he looked armed.... yadda yadda yadda.

The CT buff will assuredly think this ties into some deeper, darker, more elaborate conspiracy where the FBI is trying to cover their tracks with the Chechens.... (And who can blame them?)

I'm curious to how the investigation will be handled now. Civil rights groups are asking for inquiries. The most interesting part is who will do ballistics and forensic investigating, how much was done already, and if they recreate the scene is it going to show an agent defending himself, or killing in cold blood?

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To me its an execution unless they can provide evidence of a knife. Which if I understand has been retracted, and the official statement is he was unarmed.

There is no reason two officers and an FBI agent could not subdue a suspect if he chose to get out of hand. I understand he was an mma fighter which they seem to keep dropping into the story, but I think its all part of conditioning to say he was to dangerous and they couldnt handle him. But cops carry pepper spray and tasers. I dont care how much of a bada$$ you are, two doses of pepper spray and two tasers should be enough to take down any fighter.

He didn't appear to be a extremely large man either, so to me his father is correct in saying he was executed.
Why...??? I have no idea maybe a conspiracy, maybe a poorly trained agent, or a misfire. A gun should not have been involved tho.

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Do police not have the authority of detaining a suspect as well? If related to such a big case like this, and this guy is suspected of something, aren't they allowed to bring them into the station for questioning. Or, since he (I assume) agreed to an interview, why not arrange it at a local PD station?

I'm not sure what the protocol is for FBI interviews, I find it kind of absurd, (MMA Fighter or not) for one guy to try and take on multiple, armed FBI agents. Not saying it's impossible, but they say he's unarmed now, he might have been "Reaching for a sword in the room, or an officer's gun."

Uh, unless he's a foot away from the officer and the gun is being pulled from him, (which would have made the suspect armed) I just don't see how these events could have unfolded above board.

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This is pretty much my only hang-up. They knew the guy was dangerous and was probably not going to be very cooperative. I'm not sure what I would have done ... maybe tail him a while and wait for him to step on his own phallus for something else. Who knows? But to take the issue to the guy's home turf - just seems like asking for trouble.

I assume that if a secret service wanted to kill someone, doing it openly in his house while people from another agency were present and then releasing that info to the press is not the way they would choose.

I keep saying that these idiots are trained to shoot on the least pretense.....they are trained to shoot center mass...ie kill shots.
Theres no choosing where to wound an attacker or whatever...center mass double tap
(Tho ive heard some train two to the body one to the head.)...i cant confirm that.
I can see the FBI agent taking the opportunity to waste the guy by insulting or chiding him into an angry response...then calmly whacking him.
All it would take is perhaps insult his manhood, his mother or even Allah....young men spook easily when insulted.
The other two cops were presumably out of the room, so its one mans testimony....
case closed.

It may have been accidental, or deliberate....but the kid is sure dead now...and no witnesses .....how convenient.

"Maybe my son knew something, some information the police did not want to be made public. Maybe they wanted to silence my son," Todashev's father said.

This is what grabs my attention.

Pretty hard to explain getting shot in the back of the head.

Something is rotten in Denmark.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I assume that if a secret service wanted to kill someone, doing it openly in his house while people from another agency were present and then releasing that info to the press is not the way they would choose.

Which shows it's not entirely premeditated. For all we know the suspect threatened them while they were there, or threatened a different version of events to the media, or perhaps showed them he had evidence of something incriminating.

Or maybe it happened exactly as they said. I don't know, but it can't be simply disregarded because of the point you bring up.

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I'm not sure what else you would expect the father to say, but for anyone who's seen the pictures of his body at the funeral home, I think it would be impossible to prove that it was an execution based on all of the locations of the bullet wounds.

His father said that he had never committed a crime before either and we all know that's not true based on his arrest on May 4th for assault. From my understanding, that's not the only assault charges he's had filed against him either.

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There is no reason two officers and an FBI agent could not subdue a suspect if he chose to get out of hand. I understand he was an mma fighter which they seem to keep dropping into the story, but I think its all part of conditioning to say he was to dangerous and they couldnt handle him.

Here's something to consider. They were questioning him about a triple homicide in which all of the victims had their throats slit from ear to ear. One of the victims was an MMA instructor. It would have been a hell of a fight.

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If related to such a big case like this ...

Yeah, its so big they can't even get an indictment on Dzhokar Tsarnaev.

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Originally posted by boncho

I'm curious to how the investigation will be handled now. Civil rights groups are asking for inquiries. The most interesting part is who will do ballistics and forensic investigating, how much was done already, and if they recreate the scene is it going to show an agent defending himself, or killing in cold blood?

All the reports I've read that mention an investigation say that the FBI will be investigating it, so investigating themselves. Is there any mechanism or precedent for another agency to investigate them? The police say they have no jurisdiction over them, does anyone?

Not my son, my son is a little angel.


Show me a parent who says, "that's about right" when told their child is a monster.


They are rarer than honest men in D.C..
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The father is just trying to hold onto his sons innocence. He never saw his sons as evil.

Any father can relate to this. I'd do the same if my son(s) were in this situation.

You can't deny it - any ATS member with grown children will side with their kids and stick by them when they needed you. Even if you are wrong, you are not the monster. You will doubt the doubters and embrace the fatherly love you have for your kids.

Hope the old man gets through this. He doesn't deserve this stress. He deserves to remember his son(s) in a positive light. If he thinks his sons were innocent, who are we to argue.

Disclaimer-I don't know of any ATS member that was personally affected by this.

Do you forget!
that Obama gave him self the power to arrest and execute any one he likes?
Dont like it? then do some thing.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I assume that if a secret service wanted to kill someone, doing it openly in his house while people from another agency were present and then releasing that info to the press is not the way they would choose.

A fair point, but I think that only applies to yesteryear when we didn't have the internet. It was easy to disappear people back in the day, but now they need loose ends tied up, visibly, for the world to accept. Saying that though, they could have just grabbed him, and nobody would have been any wiser as to where he went; he was a suspect after all so maybe he went 'on the run'.

Aside from that, this story has many questions around it. Why are we hearing about so many civilians being killed by law enforcement these days, in situations where a shot should never have been fired. I think I've read 3 different stories today already.

I can't get past the 7 bullets. I can talk myself into entertaining the plausibility of many theories. But really, you needed 7 bullets to subdue a young man in an apartment? SEVEN.

Denmark is indeed horribly putrid.

Yup .. this is exactly how to create terrorists in the world ..
First, we kill innocent civilians using drones and such, like cowards from a distance ..
What do you think their families and friends will think of us ..? who in the right mind wouldn't want revenge..?

The FBI, low IQ cops ..all do the same at home .. trigger happy morons ..
This father and his family obviously want revenge .. the list goes on and on ..

Sometimes I wonder .. if all this is senseless killing is deliberate .. to keep terrorism alive and going ..
The murderers at the top can't be so stupid to not know that terrorism is a state of mind ..created by circumstances .. circumstances created by us .. it will never go away with this kind of senseless killing everywhere ...

My prediction is that in the next 10 years.. terrorism will increase and become very hi tech .. and it will be performed by the converted terrorists we create today ..through our direct policy of indiscriminate cold blooded killing everywhere .. Our leaders will convert our country to another Iraq .. where bombs go off at random anywhere ..

Who knows ... that just might be the agenda to create the police state they have such a hard-on for ..