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US gifts Israel $3.1Billion more in Weapons; Bullies Iran via 30,000LB bunker-busting bomb

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posted on May, 4 2013 @ 03:37 AM

The package, which includes F-35 stealth fighter bombers, V-22 Ospreys and KC-135 air refueling tankers, will enable Israeli Air Force to strike longer range targets.

These are to ensure US can destroy Iran underground military compounds, particularly its Fordo facility.

US still publicly needs a credible military threat (or to be well into Syria) to take action on Iran for now. But we've seen how US rolls, postulating WMDs - in this case alleged nuclear development - is par for course for eventual preemptive strikes anywheres, this time, Iran.

Almost guaranteed a matter of time; for sanctions & ongoing nuclear negotiations are bound to get nowhere as all in all, America is hardly diplomatic about anything except destroying country after country, and dishing out what resources are left to highest bids, as is currently being done in Afghanistan.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 04:06 AM
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Doesn't really have any material impact on the ability to strike the Iranian hardened underground bunkers.

Israel has no aircraft capable of carrying the only non nuclear weapon capable of doing the job.

A US strategic bomber remains required.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 04:15 AM
Yep, US so far has not given nuclear bunker-busting weapons to Israel, just the other things listed above (not the 30kLB MOB)

No Bunker-Buster Bomb in Israel’s Weapons Deal With U.S.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:02 AM
That bully in Middle East has no balls to attack anyone but rock throwing innocent civilians. Those packages mean nothing if and when the Iranian army fire up thousands of missiles at their commands in every direction.

Any support by the Americans will lead to millions of attack on US cities by any size/measures and means.

Question is…

Are they ready and stupid enough to pay this heavy price..?

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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3.1 billion eh?
Stop welfare to foreign governments.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:22 AM
Ok so americans are made to feel guilty because the elite gave weapons to Mexicans, yet its ok to fund Israel's crusade in the middle east.

That is wha the American gov are fine at, hypocrisy.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:38 AM
IS is pushing hard for divide and conquer and this threads talks about how US is planning to conquer.

And people are asleep as soon as their door is not knocked.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 09:02 AM

Originally posted by pirhanna
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3.1 billion eh?
Stop welfare to foreign governments.

You have seen mafia films? It represents those scenes where the boss drops of a little present to one of his underlings. "I insist, I insist."

In fact, when you compare states to mafias they are very similar in their actions. They shake down people in their territories, collect a % from businesses and fight skirmishes with other groups. Becoming a mafia boss is a small time position, if you want to do it right, become a president.

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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You, my friend, are brainwashed and one sided. Should the U.S. just sit back while being threatened?

posted on May, 4 2013 @ 09:59 PM
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But the military points out that Hamas has over 5,000 rockets and Hezbollah over 40,000. If one or both of these groups fired several thousand rockets the Iron Dome batteries would have to be used to defend military bases and power plants first (otherwise defense of the nation would be imperiled) before trying to cover civilian targets. With a smaller attack the existing number of Iron Dome batteries is sufficient to defend everything, which is what happened last year. But until it is possible to buy more Iron Dome batteries, a major attack will leave many civilian targets vulnerable.

Since 2010, Israel has bought seven batteries of Iron Dome anti-rocket missiles. Five are in action and were responsible for defeating the Hamas attack last November, which used a lot of long range rockets. Each battery has radar and control equipment and four missile launchers. Each battery costs about $37 million, which includes over fifty Tamir missiles (costing $40,000 each).

So, to buy those batteries and launch 1500 intercepts would cost the Israelis almost a third of a billion dollars. I would be happy if we gave them the money to sextuple that amount. Heck, buy all the Iron Domes they want, they're defensive weapons.

Thy're not using that money to seize territory or launch large civilian attacks, I don't see the problem. Either they don't have a strong enough military to destroy Iran, and whatever allies Iran might have, or they don't want to. If they don't want to, doesn't that mean they're open for formal peace?

Below, I'm having trouble accepting your fears as legitimate. You express them so forcefully, I don't believe you're open to discussion

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 06:26 AM
I am having a wet dream just fantasising dropping that MOAB into the bullseye of Pentagon annihilating those mofos war mongers once and for all.

What has Iran done to deserve that, any less than the Pentagon ?

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 07:59 AM
Obama/Pentagon are thus investing hundreds of billions in just the past year or so, in Israel as a "fall-back' plan to say the least, as Israel promises - and obviously delivers - an American, 9/11 style shock-and-awe devastation thru extermination of some 100,000 Syrians via al-Ciada/Israeli Mossad-armed "rebels" and similarly, a staged event to blame Assad's government for chem weapons use when it's been these rebels all along, trying to secure a coup overthrowing Assad much like Gadafi was, not long ago. Another day another dollar another country another Zionist false flag to meet some racing agenda US & Israel apparently have to usher in for the region (if not world) sooner than later. Why the rush? Well, US & Israel have obviously run out of patience in waiting for rebels alone to topple Assad, thus the use of multiple strikes:

They were expecting Bashar al-Assad government to collapse in a few months. But it has been two years and it is still in place. There are no major defections. They still control the business classes in Damascus and Aleppo. It is still there and could fight for a long time. And they want a quick resolution, so they use Israel as a proxy.

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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How do you find a card that says, "Thank you so much for doing our dirty work in Syria!" ??? send a present instead...

The package, which includes F-35 stealth fighter bombers, V-22 Ospreys and KC-135 air refueling tankers, will enable Israeli Air Force to strike longer range targets.

Can you imagine the size of the bow?

The new bunker buster was specifically designed to reach deep Iranian and North Korean buried facilities. It isn't a message, it was the stated mission for the design team.
edit on 6-5-2013 by Gazrok because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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Not yet but the package does have the C130J that can deliver the MOB 30,000 LB bomb and here is the full article

A new defense deal between the US and Israel, after a year of secret negotiations, will give the Israel Air Force (IAF) a technological overhaul. The IAF will receive F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter bombers, the latest C-130J Hercules transports and cargo planes, both made by Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE: LMT), and the Italian M-346 jet trainer, made by Alenia Aermacchi. The IAF will also receive the new Boeing KC-135 air-to-air refueling tankers, which it has only been able to dream about until now. These planes will greatly extend the range of operations of Israeli combat pilots.

The IAF will also receive the V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft, a unique aerial platform, which until now has only been in operation with the US Air Force.

Details of the deal, which will be financed by US military aid, were revealed on Friday, ahead of today's arrival in Israel by US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel for his first official visit. During his visit, he will meet Minister of Defense Moshe Ya'alon to discuss implementation of the deal and other security matters, including Iran's nuclear program and the situation in Syria.

The new $3 billion US-Israel defense deal is part of $10 billion in arms sales to countries the Middle East. Israel will receive the latest and most sophisticated arms under these deals in order to maintain its qualitative edge in the region. The wider deal includes the sale of F-16s and precision long-range to the United Arab Emirates, and specially adapted precision missiles to Saudi Arabia for its air force.

Cutting edge radar and the latest missiles

In addition to the KC-135 and V-22 that Washington is offering Jerusalem, the deal will include cutting-edge radars and the latest missiles, which should interest the IDF and improve its offensive capability. These are guided missiles for targeting radar systems to quickly provide a large operational area for attacking well-defended targets. A good example of this is a scenario of an attack against Iran's nuclear facilities.

Realization of the new deal will be great news for Boeing, which some years ago proposed equipping the IAF with V-22 aircraft, insisting that it fitted its operational needs like a glove. The helmets used by the pilots of the V-22are produced by Israel's Elbit Systems Ltd. (Nasdaq: ESLT; TASE: ESLT). The V-22 can carry a payload similar to the IAF's Saar, Yasur and Blackhawk helicopters.

Just like a helicopter the V-22 can take off and land vertically due to its pair of tilted rotors. When the aircraft reaches the required altitude, and starts on its flight path, the propellers tilt to a horizontal angle enabling the aircraft to fly at higher speed than a helicopter like a regular plane. The IAF have tested out the plane/helicopter with several pilots sent to the US to experience flights and check out the performance of the strange hybrid that has to date only served the US special military forces. The Israeli pilots like what they saw. The obstacle to bringing it to Israel has been money with each V-22 costing $70 million with the helicopter/plane until now left out of the basket of US aid to Israel.

During his frequent visits to Washington over the past 18 months, former Defense Minister Ehud Barak pressed for V-22s to be provided to Israel in order to maintain the IAF's qualitative advantage in the Middle East with the US extensively selling other advanced equipment in the region. IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen Benny Gantz also pushed for six to eight V-22s during his visit to Washington in February.

The V-22 can carry up to 24 combat soldiers, can land or take off from naval carriers, and refuel in mid-air.

In the latest deal the US has also lifted its veto on the sale of KC-135 air-to-air refueling tankers that the IAF has sought for many years. This is the main refuel aircraft serving the US Air Force and significantly extends the range of potential operations. The aircraft is based on the Boeing 707 but in contrast to those aircraft that the IAF has reconfigured as refueling tankers, the KC-135 has been designed from the outset as a flying fuel tanker.

The strenuous US opposition to date to supplying these refueling aircraft to Israel has stemmed from concerns by some in the White House that the new plane would boost the self-confidence of Israeli leaders and could lead them to attack Iran.

New opportunity

Israel's defense established was hard pressed today to assess how the new deal to be equipped with the stealth bombers, refuel tanker aircraft and helicopter/planes will be completed. Even if the deal is meant to be funded by US aid, existing plans already account for every dollar of that aid. Over the past year US aid amounted to $3.1 billion and aid includes an injection of $250 million for continued equipment for new Iron Dome short range missile defense systems.

With removal of the White House's opposition to supplying Israel with the new weapons, the Defense Ministry will need to think about how to realize the new opportunity. So far not a single stealth aircraft has landed in Israel but at Defense Ministry headquarters, they are talking about a second deal to buy stealth aircraft that would cost billions. Possibly payments could be spread over a very long period allowing Israel to also finance an arsenal that includes the V-22s, flying fuel-tankers and advance radar that would enable it to bomb distant targets wherever.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - - on April 21, 2013

© Copyright of Globes Publisher Itonut (1983) Ltd. 2013
from the link spec's for the C130J

edit on 6-5-2013 by bekod because: added link, line edit

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