Changing Stories

Every time there is a big event, a few days later there are arguments about how information given to us has changed. Either people are mistaken and just claim it has changed or it really does get changed.

Due to the unfortunate event that is now taking place, we do have the ability to check to see if the media does change the story as it goes to alter public opinion.

I did try to post this in the breaking news forum but it was removed, so I'll put it here with a different heading to signify that it isn't something that is centered around the current news item.

This is a link to a news source that is keeping a "running tab" so to speak of the information as it is given to us. It will enable us to compare the information given to us to the story that develops later to see if there are changes or not. Of course I want to think that information isn't changed and we aren't being lied to, but it is a possibility, a possibility that is often argued here endlessly. Here is our opportunity to verify as we go, although the situation is a very grave one and this is not meant to diminish that event in any way, shape or form.

www.wcvb.com...

**copied text from the article to follow for comparison at a later date**

(CNN) —In the aftermath of two bomb blasts near the finish line of Monday's Boston Marathon, Boston police confirm two dead and dozens injured, according to Cheryl Fiandaca, head of media relations for the Boston police. Local hospitals report at least 71 patients are being treated for wounds.

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Other details:

-- President Barack Obama said Monday he ordered the "full resources" of the federal government" to respond to the Boston bombing on Monday, and that he also called for increased security around the United States as necessary.

-- Investigators are classifying Monday's bombings in Boston as a terror event, but it is not clear if domestic or foreign, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said. The official said there was no known threat in advance of the marathon. No one is in custody, the source said. The two explosive devices were small packages and are not believed at this time to have included C4 or other plastic explosives, the source said.

-- Boston's fire chief told other law enforcement authorities that they have found what they believe is an unexploded explosive device, a government official tell CNN's Joe Johns.

-- A federal law enforcement source tells CNN's Chris Cuomo that experts are working to dismantle another explosive device. The device is small and does not appear to contain shrapnel, but an explosion may generate shrapnel from places where the explosion was put, the source said.

-- Bomb-sniffing dogs were working the area of bombing and nearby streets, checking every single item on curb or near the street, "every construction cone, every Port-A-Jon" to make sure there were no explosive devises left, WHDH-TV in Boston reported.

-- A cell phone service overload around the center of Boston is hampering the bombing investigation, two federal law enforcement sources tell CNN.

-- The Boston Marathon Facebook page says: "There were two bombs that exploded near the finish line in today's Boston Marathon. We are working with law enforcement to understand what exactly has happened."

-- Injured people are being treated in medical tents that had been erected near the marathon finish line to treat exhausted runners. Other injured are being taken to the several hospitals that are within two miles.

-- A Massachusetts General Hospital spokeswoman tells CNN there are 22 injured at the hospital as of 5 p.m. Six of those injured are "critically injured."

-- Nine patients from the explosion were at Tufts Medical Center as of 4:10 p.m., according to spokesman Jeremy Leachan. No word on their conditions.

-- Boston Medical Center says it has 20 patients from the explosions, including two children.

-- The American Red Cross sent 100 additional blood products to Boston area hospitals to help with treatment of victims of Monday's incident, Red Cross spokeswoman Anne Marie Borrego said.

-- Google's Crisis Response team created a "Person Finder" tool to help marathon runners, their families and friends, and spectactors keep track of each other and quickly share information about people they know, Google spokeswoman Susan Cadrecha said. The web address is google.org...

-- There were no credible security threats ahead of the Boston Marathon, according to a state government official.

-- All off-duty Boston police officers have been ordered to report to their districts, WHDH -TV reported.

-- More than 400 Massachusetts National Guard troops were already on duty, assigned to help local police keep the marathon route clear for runners.

-- The FAA placed a Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) over an area in Boston at the request of law enforcement. The TFR was initially a three nautical mile radius from the site and extended from the surface to 3,000 feet. The FAA has reduced the radius to two miles. The FAA put a ground stop in place briefly to change the runway configuration at Logan Airport, but has lifted it.

-- Boston police investigated whether a third explosion, at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, was connected to Monday's two bombings at the Boston Marathon, Police Commissioner Ed Davis said. They decided it was related to a mechanical problem. The JFK School of Government at Harvard University in Cambridge --- miles away from the library in the Dorchester section of Boston -- was evacuated.

-- Boston's Mandarin Oriental hotel was evacuated as a precautionary measure ordered by Boston police, spokeswoman Molly Kinsella said. "With respect to the two explosions that occurred during the Boston Marathon near Copley Square, all colleagues and guests located at the hotel are accounted for and safe," she said.

good idea I'm curious myself what the result will be

-- Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick: "This is a horrific day in Boston. My thoughts and prayers are with those who have been injured. I have been in touch with the President, Mayor (Tom) Menino and our public safety leaders. Our focus is on making sure that the area around Copley Square is safe and secured. I am asking everyone to stay away from Copley Square and let the first responders do their jobs."

-- President Obama was briefed by Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco and other members of his senior White House staff in the Oval Office. The president called Mayor Menino and Gov. Patrick to express his concern for those who were injured and to make clear that his administration is ready to provide needed support as they respond to the incident.

-- Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano "has been notified of the incident in Boston," an administration official said. "At her direction, DHS is in contact with state and local authorities and will provide whatever assistance is necessary in the investigation and response."

-- The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency activated a Red Cross website to help people who might have been near the explosions but are unable to make a phone call check in with friends and family.

-- A ground stop has been imposed on flights from New York's LaGuardia airport into Boston.

-- Metropolitan Police in Washington, D.C., are at a heightened level of security, according to D.C. police Public Affairs Specialist Saray Leon.

-- Miami-Dade Police Deputy Director Juan Perez: "We are aware of the incident in Boston, Massachusetts, and are working vigilantly with our regional partners in law enforcement at the local, state and federal level. We have increased our security measures in those areas and sites deemed as critical infrastructures and will continue to monitor the situation."

-- New York City and San Francisco police have been placed on a heightened state of alert.

-- Los Angeles police are increasing security measures in and around Dodger Stadium for Monday night's game against the San Diego Padres, an LAPD spokesman said. "We are reminding the public that if they see something, say something." Lt. Andy Neiman said. "These precautions are strictly to reassure the public that they are safe and that their police department is aware of what is going on."

-- Los Angeles Metro security was placed on "a heightened state of alert while normal Metro bus and rail service continues," a spokesman said. Metro passengers are likely to see or encounter extra patrols by the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, which provides security for the Metro system. This may include bomb-sniffing dogs at Los Angeles Union Station and other Metro facilities.

-- Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa statement: "We are working closely with our law enforcement partners to monitor the situation and stand ready to aid Boston in any way possible. The LAPD and other public safety agencies will remain vigilant at all public and sporting events in Los Angeles."

-- While all of state, local and federal agencies are on alert in the Southeast, there is no mobilization of any kind in Atlanta or elsewhere at this time, a federal law enforcement source said.

-- The chief executive of Sunday's upcoming London Marathon, Nick Bitel, issued a statement: "We are deeply saddened and shocked by the news from Boston. Our immediate thoughts are with the people there and their families. It is a very sad day for athletics and for our friends and colleagues in marathon running. Our security plan is developed jointly with the Metropolitan Police and we were in contact with them as soon as we heard the news."

-- London Met Police Chief Superintendent Julia Pendry said: "A security plan is in place for the London Marathon. We will be reviewing our security arrangements in partnership with London Marathon."

-- The Boston Symphony postponed Monday evening's concert at Symphony Hall.

-- The Boston Bruin's home game against Ottawa has been canceled for Monday night, with no make up date determined, the Nation Hockey League said.

-- Candidates in next month's primaries for the special U.S. Senate election in Massachusetts announced they were suspending campaign activity Monday as authorities continue to investigate apparent bombings at the Boston Marathon.

-- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg: "I have spoken with Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, and the NYPD has stepped up security at strategic locations and critical infrastructure, including our subways. Some of the security steps we are taking may be noticeable, including deployment of Critical Response Vehicles and additional police personnel, and others will not be. We have 1,000 members of the NYPD assigned to counter-terrorism duties, and they -- along with the entire NYPD and the investments we have made in counter-terrorism infrastructure -- are being fully mobilized to protect our city."

-- New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo: "I have directed state agencies, including the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, State Police, the MTA and the Port Authority, to be on a heightened state of alert as we learn more about this incident. New York National Guard on Sunday sent three vehicles and 6 soldiers to support the Marathon, and they are on hand to assist with emergency response and work together with local authorities following this incident."

-- The U.S. House of Representatives stopped debate at 5:09 p.m. to observe a moment of silence on the House floor.

-- Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee: "We have been in touch with Boston and federal authorities who are attempting to safeguard the surrounding area and find the cause of this tragedy. If this is in fact a malicious attack, those responsible will be held accountable."

-- Major League Baseball Senior Vice President Pat Courtney: "The safety of everyone that comes to our ballparks is always our top priority and we will continue to do everything to ensure a safe environment for our fans."

-- Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper: "I was shocked to learn of the explosions that occurred today during the running of the Boston Marathon. It is truly a sad day when an event as inspiring as the Boston Marathon is clouded by such senseless violence ... We stand with our American neighbors in this difficult time."

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The story is being continually updated at the link given, this is what has been printed so far, as of 6:53 pm EDT

Good, swear every time a massive event happens ill remember the media saying one thing then saying something completely different the next hour. Then when I go to look up what the original story was it magically disappears. Now we can at least have proof of lies. I'm hoping this tragedy in Boston isn't something to cover up but with the way things in this country are ran you never know.

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In big events I often wonder how much of the confusion/hysteria is created by simply bad reporting and lack of professional unbiased journalism?

Call me brainwashed/deluded/sheeple/disinfo/COINTELPRO, but i thought about it a bit, and of course the media is going to get # wrong the first time. I mean, they're all rushing to see who posts the story first, and since they're in such a rush they're obviously going to print out erroneous information. Also, since it's often a few days after the incident, not much is known. It's not necessarily the way it should be, and i do guess the media alters itself to reflect public opinion sometimes.

Whatever, guess i'll go back to the Massive Sheeple New-media Brainwashing Center, No Nonsense.

Go Obama!

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by kthxbai

 

In big events I often wonder how much of the confusion/hysteria is created by simply bad reporting and lack of professional unbiased journalism?

I totally agree with your stance here and would only add that the old days of reporting seem to have been replaced by so called reporters checking twitter feeds and the like on their phones while sitting at their desks. Taking a cab to the scene to get a first hand view may not be in the newspapers budget anymore. So, I'm not seeing mass media shaping or controlling stories just bad reporting as part of a failed news gathering industry.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by kthxbai

 

In big events I often wonder how much of the confusion/hysteria is created by simply bad reporting and lack of professional unbiased journalism?

Very good point, the level of journalism certainly isn't what it used to be. I do miss the days when the news was the news, not the opinion broadcast.

So you are looking for a conspiracy in this bombing.

I'm looking for the conspiracy in human mentality.... and also here for a laugh on what some think. I am allowed to disagree and laugh at others and they are allowed to disagree and laugh at me.

That way we all win and have good day while being amused at the insanity of the human race all revealed here as posts on ATS.


...or maybe the biggest conspiracy IS ATS?

Now lets watch the ops freak out and delete because they cannot laugh at themselves.

No, actually I know that in about a week, somebody on here is going to pop up and say it's a conspiracy and tell us how "ohhhh, the MSM messages changed but we can't prove it because all those stories were changed and we didn't save them".

Well, here they are, word for word. Now they can't jump in and say that can they?

If I'm wrong and they change them and it does turn into one, so be it, but chances are it won't and I'm heading the trolls off at the pass on this one after they peeved me off SOOOOO much with the school shooting.

Feel free to remove your foot from your mouth now... or leave it in there, I don't really care

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Good idea bai! A one stop spot to compare the ever changing "facts" as presented by the MSM.
I'm sure you will have at least a few new versions of MSM "truth" to add by the time you get off work today. Better eat an extra slice of pie to keep yourself sharp!

Originally posted by pacifier2012
So you are looking for a conspiracy in this bombing.

I'm looking for the conspiracy in human mentality.... and also here for a laugh on what some think. I am allowed to disagree and laugh at others and they are allowed to disagree and laugh at me.

That way we all win and have good day while being amused at the insanity of the human race all revealed here as posts on ATS.


...or maybe the biggest conspiracy IS ATS?

Now lets watch the ops freak out and delete because they cannot laugh at themselves.

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Or maybe you could... You know... Find something that is actually useful to do with your life, instead of wasting it fostering a false sense of superiority for yourself by laughing at others.

Ah ha. Ah ha ha ha ha.

Now lets watch pacifier freak out and pop off with something inane, predictable and mean because he (she?) can't laugh at himself.

The six pages of the article I posted are no longer there. They've been replaced by completely different (updated) information. It's late so I'm not going to go through and compare everything to see if any basic facts changed or not, but others are welcome to do so.

I'm going with Slayer on this one, the media tries to get information out there so quickly that they often don't verify it and it's usually laced with so much opinion that it just can't be taken as 100% correct