Roseanne Barr: “MK ULTRA Mind Control Rules in Hollywood”

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by 123143

 

You say you're in hell but don't want to leave.

Actions speak louder than words.

How do you escape that which is pervasive everywhere you go? Who do you talk to about it? How do you make a living when your ability to do so had been destroyed?

Answer the questions.

reply to post by 123143

I said leave the US and you said you choose not to. Then by simple deduction your situation is more bearable than the idea of living in another country.

Seeing that I don't live in the US I must conclude that your situation is better than mine and my situation is actually rather enoyable.

reply to post by daskakik


Answer the questions.

reply to post by 123143

Sorry but no, I will not answer your loaded questions.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by 123143

 

Sorry but no, I will not answer your loaded questions.

How cowardly.

You seem to think you have the solutions to my problems and those of other TI's. Now is your chance to show us how smart you are.

Answer the questions or admit you're talking out of your butt about a problem you know nothing about.

reply to post by 123143


Never said I had any answers, just that I don't believe all TIs are telling the truth, even if they believe they are.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by 123143

 

Never said I had any answers, just that I don't believe all TIs are telling the truth, even if they believe they are.

You're entitled to your opinion no matter how ill-informed it may be.

I was going to say I hope you never suffer as we have suffered, but I'm no humanitarian.

I hope someday you walk in our shoes as a measure of your arrogance in thinking that you are untouchable.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by 123143

 

Never said I had any answers, just that I don't believe all TIs are telling the truth, even if they believe they are.

And despite being agreed with there on that point, you continue......

It's called baiting. It is not an honorable endeavor, and consider me the zombie who has tried every way to speak to you, agree with you, provide you with sources, and put my OP in a place that should have stopped said behavior, attacking those already under attack with your doubt, which has been pointed out, just perpetuates what is happening.

Oops, I forgot, I said, I was done. Silly me. Proves someone else is definitely in control of my brain, huh? Good day to you and good luck with all your endeavors.....

Celebrities have more influence on the population that tptb.

These people can rally people and bring everyone together for a cause.

If you think for one second that tptb do not keep tabs on the people in the spotlight, then ask Tupac or John Lennon.

The people in power want to keep the power and make all the money. They are not going to let some Joe smoe get rich and famous overnight and threaten their way of life.

I can totally see some sort of manipulation going on.

Wouldn't you? I mean hell, so you just let somebody come and take your cash cow?

You are totally naive if you believe that there is nothing going on.

Originally posted by liejunkie01
Celebrities have more influence on the population that tptb.

These people can rally people and bring everyone together for a cause.

If you think for one second that tptb do not keep tabs on the people in the spotlight, then ask Tupac or John Lennon.

The people in power want to keep the power and make all the money. They are not going to let some Joe smoe get rich and famous overnight and threaten their way of life.

I can totally see some sort of manipulation going on.

Wouldn't you? I mean hell, so you just let somebody come and take your cash cow?

You are totally naive if you believe that there is nothing going on.

I really should get off this thread already, but I just wanted to point out that the sources you encourage people to linke to are dead: John Lennon and Tupac

And what dose this say about our location and dissemination of information according to you? I don't argue with your logic......just interested in your take on whom you quoted as source information. I happen to agree with you. But I am searching eternally for the brave and committed to back their assertions up......
cudos fror what most will not say
Tetra

reply to post by tetra50


I was referring to Lennon and Tupac because they were both celebrities that were vocal in a "new revolution".

They were very influential artists that spoke the truth to people. This frightens the people in power. When Lennon spoke of a peaceful revolution in the middle of a war that Tptb wanted.

Look up Tupac on YouTube. He hundreds of interviews talking of a new "black revolution".

I know people want to believe the man's stories about them, but if you take the time you can reference hundreds of other celebrities that were outspoken to the people and mysteriously died.

That is what I meant about ask Lennon or tupac. You can't because they were silenced.

There was no way to call them crazy like "Rosanne". They were very influential and connected with their audience.

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by tetra50

 

I was referring to Lennon and Tupac because they were both celebrities that were vocal in a "new revolution".

They were very influential artists that spoke the truth to people. This frightens the people in power. When Lennon spoke of a peaceful revolution in the middle of a war that Tptb wanted.

Look up Tupac on YouTube. He hundreds of interviews talking of a new "black revolution".

I know people want to believe the man's stories about them, but if you take the time you can reference hundreds of other celebrities that were outspoken to the people and mysteriously died.

That is what I meant about ask Lennon or tupac. You can't because they were silenced.

There was no way to call them crazy like "Rosanne". They were very influential and connected with their audience.

I'm going to give you a break here in that you did not realize you verbalized exactly what I meant by my comment to you: they spoke truth and are now dead. That was the whole point. But thanks for helping me make it........I'm right with you, you know......not against you, and know intimately of what you speak.....and why it is like this. Re-read my post to yours, perhaps then it will become clear what I was saying , which was, btw, in totaly agreement with your point...

reply to post by tetra50


Its all good.

I am glad we see eye to eye on this subject.

Its ok to be vocal if you are a nobody like me.

I do not shy away from telling/showing, or attempting to show people that, yes they can take off the blinders, turn off the TV and take a look around at what is really going on.

But most want to live in an ignorant bliss and believe that everything is OK.

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by tetra50

 

Its all good.

I am glad we see eye to eye on this subject.

Its ok to be vocal if you are a nobody like me.

I do not shy away from telling/showing, or attempting to show people that, yes they can take off the blinders, turn off the TV and take a look around at what is really going on.

But most want to live in an ignorant bliss and believe that everything is OK.

Right with you, babe. Just wanted you to be clear as to what you were saying, since your sources were all dead, and I knew that was your whole point. And I couldn't be more nobody than anybody, not that I'm competing with you for that title
Take care, be safe. Times are gettin' rough....
Tetra

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Well, I am sorry, but Roseanne is about as rational and objective as she is thin...

Hollywood is what you make of it. Nobody is forcing anybody to watch anything.

I see this interview as a quite pathetic attempt to get attention from an actress that hasn´t been talked about in a looong time.

It´s show business people, no more no less.

I don't understand Roseanne's angle here or whether or not I can believe her.

I can certainly understand what she believes to true from her experiences. I think its at least possible that tptb are controlling those with the greatest influence or keeping a eye on them. It would only make sense that those are the people you need, those who though fame and being in the public can more easier sway the common people to side or another on a issue better than someone trying to do the same thing from the shadows.

reply to post by daskakik


Gee, I thought the thread was about MK-ULTRA victims...

reply to post by WhiteAlice

Well that brings up the question, what exactly is an MK Ultra victim? I have read your posts and the thread you started about your story. I don't recall you ever claiming to be a victim of MK Ultra but, what you describe sounds similar to experiences of those claiming to be.

I also remember a story shared by someone who lived in a small town who apparently got on someone's blacklist. All kinds of harassment followed but was it MK Ultra?

I pesonally know of someone who's life was ruined by a group effort but I also know that it had nothing to do with MK Ultra or any other government action.

At what point do we pause stand back and realize that the term has become a catch all and that lumping all the different kind of experiences makes it difficult to discuss any one in particular. Especially the legit ones.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by WhiteAlice

 

Well that brings up the question, what exactly is an MK Ultra victim? I have read your posts and the thread you started about your story. I don't recall you ever claiming to be a victim of MK Ultra but, what you describe sounds similar to experiences of those claiming to be.

I also remember a story shared by someone who lived in a small town who apparently got on someone's blacklist. All kinds of harassment followed but was it MK Ultra?

I pesonally know of someone who's life was ruined by a group effort but I also know that it had nothing to do with MK Ultra or any other government action.

At what point do we pause stand back and realize that the term has become a catch all and that lumping all the different kind of experiences makes it difficult to discuss any one in particular. Especially the legit ones.

edit on 19-4-2013 by daskakik because: (no reason given)

I find this to be the most significant, informed , balanced and right on target post you have made on this subject, yet, and agree with you completely. Unfortunately, being able to distinguish and separate, much less find the truth in the whole mess has become increasingly difficult.