Nuclear Physicist confirm on Main Stream Media: Aliens worked with US Military!

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Someone needs to tell these guys about....Ufology! $Cha'ching!$

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Frivolous speculation with no facts to lean against is just not a productive way to use one's mind.

The most of the seven billion people on this planet believes in a god. So this is a non productive way to use one's mind?

For me believing in life on other places than our home planet is more logical than being a skeptic. It doesn't mean that I am believing in this one particular video in this thread but in the whole concept. As being on one side of the two parties I asked myself in the last decades what kind of fact would satisfy the skeptics. I asked some of this people. The answers were likely the same. I believe in what I can see. I asked them a second question if the United States (I live in Europe) really does exist:

I can't see it, I never visited it, I saw pictures about it, which could have been faked, I met people claimed living in this country but it could be lie, saw it on TV which could be faked too, planes are flying to this country but airports could be a fake for the people, believing the U.S. really does exist.

So what will be the ultimate fact (without visit it of course ;-)), the ultimate prove to make me believe this country exists? Maybe many would say I'm making a silly comparison right now. But think only a second of it.

It is an amazing story really, I am listening to his story on c2c with George Noory with Paola Harris backing him.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is well worth the 6USD to listen to it. (6.00 per month for coast insider, which includes the archives to past shows like this one)

What a great idea. Hopefully as time goes on we will see more people revealing the truth to gen pop.

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Nice...

But to a question that's been asked...aprox. 50 years have passed perhaps allowing some freedom with the speaking. Ateast worth considering, assuming the there's an interest in the rules.

For the enforcers who do whatever I'd be concerned.

Why? Sad to say its probably about the $$, but at what cost.

Interesting Thread

Tom

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The 100 greatest non-fiction books

After keen debate at the Guardian's books desk, this is our list of the very best factual writing, organised by category, and then by date.

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The greatest non-fiction books live here ... the British Museum Reading Room.
Art

The Shock of the New by Robert Hughes (1980)
Hughes charts the story of modern art, from cubism to the avant garde

The Story of Art by Ernst Gombrich (1950)
The most popular art book in history. Gombrich examines the technical and aesthetic problems confronted by artists since the dawn of time

Ways of Seeing by John Berger (1972)
A study of the ways in which we look at art, which changed the terms of a generation's engagement with visual culture
Biography

Lives of the Most Excellent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects by Giorgio Vasari (1550)
Biography mixes with anecdote in this Florentine-inflected portrait of the painters and sculptors who shaped the Renaissance

The Life of Samuel Johnson by James Boswell (1791)
Boswell draws on his journals to create an affectionate portrait of the great lexicographer

The Diaries of Samuel Pepys by Samuel Pepys (1825)
"Blessed be God, at the end of the last year I was in very good health," begins this extraordinarily vivid diary of the Restoration period

Eminent Victorians by Lytton Strachey (1918)
Strachey set the template for modern biography, with this witty and irreverent account of four Victorian heroes

Goodbye to All That by Robert Graves (1929)
Graves' autobiography tells the story of his childhood and the early years of his marriage, but the core of the book is his account of the brutalities and banalities of the first world war

The Autobiography of Alice B Toklas by Gertrude Stein (1933)
Stein's groundbreaking biography, written in the guise of an autobiography, of her lover
Culture

Notes on Camp by Susan Sontag (1964)
Sontag's proposition that the modern sensibility has been shaped by Jewish ethics and homosexual aesthetics

Mythologies by Roland Barthes (1972)
Barthes gets under the surface of the meanings of the things which surround us in these witty studies of contemporary myth-making

Orientalism by Edward Said (1978)
Said argues that romanticised western representations of Arab culture are political and condescending
Environment

Silent Spring by Rachel Carson (1962)
This account of the effects of pesticides on the environment launched the environmental movement in the US

The Revenge of Gaia by James Lovelock (1979)
Lovelock's argument that once life is established on a planet, it engineers conditions for its continued survival, revolutionised our perception of our place in the scheme of things
History

The Histories by Herodotus (c400 BC)
History begins with Herodotus's account of the Greco-Persian war

The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon (1776)
The first modern historian of the Roman Empire went back to ancient sources to argue that moral decay made downfall inevitable

The History of England by Thomas Babington Macaulay (1848)
A landmark study from the pre-eminent Whig historian

Eichmann in Jerusalem by Hannah Arendt (1963)
Arendt's reports on the trial of Adolf Eichmann, and explores the psychological and sociological mechanisms of the Holocaust

The Making of the English Working Class by EP Thompson (1963)
Thompson turned history on its head by focusing on the political agency of the people, whom most historians had treated as anonymous masses

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown (1970)
A moving account of the treatment of Native Americans by the US government

Hard Times: an Oral History of the Great Depression by Studs Terkel (1970)
Terkel weaves oral accounts of the Great Depression into a powerful tapestry

Shah of Shahs by Ryszard Kapuściński (1982)
The great Polish reporter tells the story of the last Shah of Iran

The Age of Extremes: A History of the World, 1914-1991 by Eric Hobsbawm (1994)
Hobsbawm charts the failure of capitalists and communists alike in this account of the 20th century

We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Familes by Philip Gourevitch (1999)
Gourevitch captures the terror of the Rwandan massacre, and the failures of the international community

Postwar by Tony Judt (2005)
A magisterial account of the grand sweep of European history since 1945

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He has paid the mental price in living with this info.Shouldn't he be allowed to sell a book?


Tom

The level of pure unadulterated ignorance in this thread is astounding . I no longer even care about the topic. I am just having fun sitting back and listening to all of the armchair pseudo sceptics tells us all what is and is not possible and defining limits on what is within the realm of possibility and probability.

Someone is scared because their fragile world view is getting threatened. Lol.
And me thinks it's funny.

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Journalism

The Journalist and the Murderer by Janet Malcolm (1990)
An examination of the moral dilemmas at the heart of the journalist's trade

The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe (1968)
The man in the white suit follows Ken Kesey and his band of Merry Pranksters as they drive across the US in a haze of '___'

Dispatches by Michael Herr (1977)
A vivid account of Herr's experiences of the Vietnam war
Literature

The Lives of the Poets by Samuel Johnson (1781)
Biographical and critical studies of 18th-century poets, which cast a sceptical eye on their lives and works

An Image of Africa by Chinua Achebe (1975)
Achebe challenges western cultural imperialism in his argument that Heart of Darkness is a racist novel, which deprives its African characters of humanity

The Uses of Enchantment by Bruno Bettelheim (1976)
Bettelheim argues that the darkness of fairy tales offers a means for children to grapple with their fears
Mathematics

Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter (1979)
A whimsical meditation on music, mind and mathematics that explores formal complexity and self-reference
Memoir

Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1782)
Rousseau establishes the template for modern autobiography with this intimate account of his own life

Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave by Frederick Douglass (1845)
This vivid first person account was one of the first times the voice of the slave was heard in mainstream society

De Profundis by Oscar Wilde (1905)
Imprisoned in Reading Gaol, Wilde tells the story of his affair with Alfred Douglas and his spiritual development

The Seven Pillars of Wisdom by TE Lawrence (1922)
A dashing account of Lawrence's exploits during the revolt against the Ottoman empire

The Story of My Experiments with Truth by Mahatma Gandhi (1927)
A classic of the confessional genre, Gandhi recounts early struggles and his passionate quest for self-knowledge

Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell (1938)
Orwell's clear-eyed account of his experiences in Spain offers a portrait of confusion and betrayal during the civil war

The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank (1947)
Published by her father after the war, this account of the family's hidden life helped to shape the post-war narrative of the Holocaust

Speak, Memory by Vladimir Nabokov (1951)
Nabokov reflects on his life before moving to the US in 1940

The Man Died by Wole Soyinka (1971)
A powerful autobiographical account of Soyinka's experiences in prison during the Nigerian civil war

The Periodic Table by Primo Levi (1975)
A vision of the author's life, including his life in the concentration camps, as seen through the kaleidoscope of chemistry

Bad Blood by Lorna Sage (2000)
Sage demolishes the fantasy of family as she tells how her relatives passed rage, grief and frustrated desire down the generations
Mind

The Interpretation of Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1899)
Freud's argument that our experiences while dreaming hold the key to our psychological lives launched the discipline of psychoanalysis and transformed western culture
Music

The Romantic Generation by Charles Rosen (1998)
Rosen examines how 19th-century composers extended the boundaries of music, and their engagement with literature, landscape and the divine
Philosophy

The Symposium by Plato (c380 BC)
A lively dinner-party debate on the nature of love

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (c180)
A series of personal reflections, advocating the preservation of calm in the face of conflict, and the cultivation of a cosmic perspective

Essays by Michel de Montaigne (1580)
Montaigne's wise, amusing examination of himself, and of human nature, launched the essay as a literary form

The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton (1621)
Burton examines all human culture through the lens of melancholy

Meditations on First Philosophy by René Descartes (1641)
Doubting everything but his own existence, Descartes tries to construct God and the universe

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I wonder on the strength of this information are the SETI team packing up their gear and heading home, I think not

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That's a great list!

Originally posted by wutz4tom
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He has paid the mental price in living with this info.Shouldn't he be allowed to sell a book?


Tom

No! Anybody that sells books cannot be trusted and are only in it for the money! I'm going to start a movement "Buy only those books whose profits are donated to charity!!!" Or better yet, stop buying and reading all books!

As if.

People that make generalizations need to grow up.

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The list goes on and on, without Non Fiction, we would be so much less, yet the trouble with truth is that it is rarely accepted as truth at the time.

Somewhere in the future, it will be known, fully known and then energy will not be wasted debating the truth about ET.

Even these books Charles Hall has written can be found along side other accounts of the first human contact.

www.guardian.co.uk...

I think anyone who has had an extraordinary experience which is outside the norm of everyday occurrences would take advantage of writing a book. Come on, we're all human and generating cash and improving your families financial security is a common goal for a lot of people. How much cash you need is another story. The saying "the more money you make the more money you spend" has a lot of truth to it.

If I had an extraordinary experience, I would definitely write a book. Something so extraordinary would be hard to keep a secret. It would probably eat away at me inside. I think some people who have been sworn to secrecy sometimes may have a strong moral conviction to spill the beans. I think it sometimes can weight heavily on their minds and out weight the possible threat to their lives.

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True, but with that being said ..what does a scientist have left when they have lost their Credibility?

What's the use of the experiences if no one believes them?

Just don't think this is very easy to dismiss as a lie..
Come on people..step outside your safety zone....


Tom

Originally posted by flexy123
As for Corso...I always considered him "legitimate" as a person, but his book and claims not so much. I remember reading this book long ago, about the stupid theories how ICs, lasers, etc. would all be "alien technology" which is entirely bunk in my opinion.

edit on 28-3-2013 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)

Somebody whose opinions I trust said that Corso's book was the last act of a man doing his job, i.e. it was intentionally deceptive propaganda but about a real activity.

The intimation I got was that the technology transfer office was real, but the technology did not come from ET aliens. It may have come from espionage or maybe black project tech transfer where deniability and secrecy was necessary. When things are really black you may end up re-inventing stuff because you aren't allowed to talk. It's long term better to get it in commercial world in a way that doesn't speak to its actual origin because that would give information to adversaries about activities they didn't want to discuss.

Originally posted by caladonea
For those of you who may have a dial up network and/or may be have trouble with your audio or video; here is a website that gives some information about Charles Hall etc.


openseti.org...

WOW!! I've been reading the link you've found and it's seems very impressive.

Originally posted by Agent008
Either these "aliens" are really aloof or are scared of something because you don't fly in a spaceship at maybe light speed to come to a planet and then secretly work with the country that every other country hates

You would work with the country that gives you what you want. If you believe him (I don't) the Tall Whites had an attitude which I would describe as Arrogant Nietzscheism or Roman Empire: might makes right, superiority is morality.

They're also texan-style gun nuts.

....Thats just weird and stupid. Why not go to Africa and make it into a paradise for them?

How could ET go to Africa and make it into a paradise for them? What's in it for ET? You know they hunt albinos in Africa.


The British Empire couldn't do it for 100 years.

reply to post by wutz4tom


When a person steps out of their comfort zone to speak up and out on a subject like this, they already know they are going to be doubted and looked at like a delusional, but it is like a stream overflowing into the river, unavoidable.

The best that can come out of it is not what any book deal brings but the healing process of clearing out a deep secret. It is an empowering and brave step for someone like Charles and chances are he wrote them for his memoir's, for his ancestors, for his family and friends, for posterity.

If it helps someone else along the way all the better.

I get into the alien abduction subject but this guy just seems wierd and making up anything and seems like He knows to much or has to much information.