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Originally posted by Fireman205253
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I prefer my 30.06, that's become my choice gun I guess. But as far as someone coming in and killing the family, I don't think they could without me atleast seeing them first. I have a decent warning system working in my favor. I am safer where I am than most.
Originally posted by Fireman205253
reply to post by TKDRL
I have both buddy. I have a compound and a recurve
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by rational1
You are right, they are in a way mentally ill. The same mentally ill that the police and soldier training instills in people by design. If you don't believe me, look up the history of "boot camp".
I shot a crackhead that broke into my APT armed with a big ass kitchen knife in white plains. He deserved it, I still threw up after, still felt bad for a long time. And this was in an APT, I didn't kill him, I used two rounds of bird shot so I didn't kill a bunch of neighbors. The screams gave me nightmares. I felt horible, even though he refused to drop the knife, and refused to leave.
The biggest reason I didn't join the military, was a comment made by one of my uncles who was military. We were discussing it one day over some beer, and I stated that I had apprehensions about shooting other people. His answer was: "Boot camp will take care of that!"
I didn't think having my humanity "taken care of" was a great idea.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
The two girls I had custody of, both had .22's by 12. Hiding guns like a dirty secret is retarded IMO, but then, I am a country boy. Been shooting since 5 when I got a red rider bb gun, didn't shoot my eye out!, I think I was 8 when I got my pumpmaster 760 pelletgun, I know I was 10 when I got my first .22.
Originally posted by hoochymama
reply to post by Camperguy
Not a Mom, a Father. The Hoochymama name is just a "inside joke".
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by PrincessTofu
There obviously is a sort of limbo because the economy is so bad that many people are forced to join the military for gainful employment and the promise of higher education.. they join the military just out of high school or while still living with parents.. and after the trauma they have seen, they come home and are out of touch with the materialistic, shallow society.
You can't deny that there is a huge gap there. A huge problem. And of course, they joined because there are no jobs and there are still no jobs when they come back home.
Should we immediately arm them and put them in schools? Maybe no. I'm sure 99% are the most wonderful people you have ever met but it's still a little scary. Maybe we should make some civvy adjustment courses and train them? I'd vote for that.
I joined the military right out of high school. Didn't deploy (women could not then, and nothing going on at the time), but went through training. When out, I was perfectly able to work as a civilian, and didn't have any issues as a result. Someone with PTSD isn't going to be given a permit, anyway. That isn't most that serve, either, even those deployed. The military isn't some brainwashing system, that makes people out to be little killing machines. The movie (that I like) called Soldier? That's not how it actually is. Yes, some have problems, because they see some terrible things. Some cops have problems because they see terrible things, too. That doesn't mean most could not protect a school, though. ANYONE can develop PTSD. Most in the military with that issue can get ready help. They have courses to teach one another how to spot signs, and programs to help those out that have them. Not perfect, but there is a system for that. Those issues go into records, too, and would affect who was, and was not, able to be at a school with a gun. More known background for a soldier than for most citizens, for certain!
I can understand your thinking it's scary, because that's how a lot of society and the media portrays the military these days. It's not all accurate, though. I am a veteran (way back), and the wife of a career soldier, that's deployed several times. I am far more familiar with the military than the average person on the street, and I would trust most former military to protect my kids.
The average military member is a person doing a job, for crappy pay, and little appreciation much of the time, that can't just quit and walk away, and can be placed in harm's way to protect the nation and others. Understand your concerns, but believe me, I know these people. No, they aren't all saints, any more than any other group, but they are trained, and could do a good job keeping a school safe.
Originally posted by Fireman205253
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I have younger kids 2 under age 4. So it's not a gun safety issue yet. just worry about them getting on by accident. I used to keep a handgun close with a clip in the nightstand. But like I said the bow is there if I need it. And the guns are close. It's not like the safes are on two different floors. Me and the wife have a just incase plan. But just think of the unlucky bastard that would get a broadhead in him if he broke in. Not the way I'd want to go.
Originally posted by vonclod
if my weapon was locked up under my bed it maybee takes me a minute to unlock and insert a magazine..maybee less, there is no perfect situation with this kind of thing, as for switzerland with high gun ownership why are they not killing each other like in the u.s. at the same rate per capita..it because they get mandatory training..and dare i say respect, they take it real serious, as i know alot of amercan owners do as well, im not trying to pick on anyone im just working with the info i haveedit on 22-12-2012 by vonclod because: (no reason given)