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Originally posted by srsen
...Has anyone ever had an experience like this? Where for all intents and purposes you forgot what to do to dream, you forgot that it was a natural process, and you went into the controll room to kick-start it? The feeling when i remembered just to close my eyes and sleep in order to dream was so bizzarre. I have never EVER been in such a disconnection that i forgot how to dream.
Thought?
THE DESTINATION
I was not in any of these places/states. Where i "was" felt totally different and unlike anything ive felt before. In this case it seemed to be some outdoors function type area. Very bad description though, very hard to describe. But it wasnt like it looked some mystical place or anything - it looked relatively like the real world.
While in this place, i was seemingly 'setting up' for something. The feeling is that i was planning out or mapping my nights dreams. I know, it sounds weird. But before i mapped out anything i built some kind of statue. My memory is telling me that for some reason it was a statue to Isis (though i have recently watched 'John Carter', so the Isis element could be due to that). Regardless, i built this very basic and rudimentary 'staute' out of what i recall to be akin to an organised pile of chairs or furniture (???) in a rough pyramid shape.
NEXT THING I KNOW
The next thing i recall was being in another state entirely again. Not any of the first 3 states mentioned above or even this initially 'statue building' state, but something in between sleeping and dreaming. The over-riding thought i had was of a kind of stress or annooyance
I then recall hearing a voice (prob just my internal dialogue, but not 100% convinced) which basically said "you just gotta close your eyes. Remember, you just close your eyes, the rest just happens". After this i felt the knowing sensation of being awake and i felt like "oh # yeah thats right. just close my eyes. I dont have to go through all that to sleep and dream." Then i fell alseep because i have no more recollection.
So bascially i seemed to "go somewhere else", somewhere in between sleeping and dreaming, kind of like a 'backstage' place where the subconsciouss pieces get put together. I am aware of astral travel, even once successfully achieved it, and it was a very different feeling to astral levels.
The feeling when i remembered just to close my eyes and sleep in order to dream was so bizarre. I have never EVER been in such a disconnection that i forgot how to dream.
Thought?
Originally posted by SyntheticPerception
I would interpret this as you "mapping out" your current life behind the scenes so to speak. The mention of a pyramid shape seems you are creating a mystery for your true "self" to solve. The Pyramid shape represents the ultimate mystery IMO.
Originally posted by SyntheticPerception
The last bit IMO is again your subconscious trying to get you to look at something differently, so differently in fact you should not look at it with you eyes.
Maybe there is another way to "see" the world around you.
As you begin to "see" with your eyes closed, a new awareness will come in.
I describe the above because recently i am been struggling with a concept and feel it is important to my personal and spiritual evolution: Do we live in a strictly Service to Self reality? Think about it, I cant think of a purely Service To Others action - even the most well-intentioned STO action results in a feeling of satisfaction to the person doing it. So if so, how can one be Service To Others if we exist in such a STS reality? This idea REALLY challenges the mind - what indeed would a Service to Others reality be like if this one is predetermined Service to Self?
Thanks again mate
Originally posted by Teratoma
I like to think of dreams as 'channels' you can join. Some of them are 'public' and you share them with other dreamers, like an internet chat room. And they have 'terms and conditions' that the visitors must adhere to. I don't remember ever agreeing to any rules, or planning my dreams, but I think that's the point; you're not supposed to. Your 'glitch in the Matrix' expression seems quite fitting.
Originally posted by SyntheticPerception
reply to post by WanDash
What a coincidence running into your here.
Originally posted by srsen
...I do not believe in coincidence and look for meaning in all places. I believe that everything happens for a reason.
I describe the above because recently i am been struggling with a concept and feel it is important to my personal and spiritual evolution: Do we live in a strictly Service to Self reality? Think about it, I cant think of a purely Service To Others action - even the most well-intentioned STO action results in a feeling of satisfaction to the person doing it. So if so, how can one be Service To Others if we exist in such a STS reality? This idea REALLY challenges the mind - what indeed would a Servie to Others reality be like if this one is predetermined Service to Self?
Originally posted by Teratoma
Once becoming lucid in a dream, I'd often just start attacking the nearest person for no reason at all. I'm a very non-violent person but I equated my actions with playing a video game. I've mentioned this on other threads. Now, one of the things that first led me to this 'rules' and 'public channel' concept is that usually, for whatever reason, I can never really hurt anyone with my punches. By the time I connect, it's almost like a big squishy force field reduces my hooks to nothing more than annoying taps. The people usually just look at me as if to say 'WTF are you DOING?' Or they completely ignore me.
I find it quite odd that you haven't been able to lucid dream since doing that. It seems like you may still be harboring some guilt over that? I've done it more than once, but maybe I was in a 'channel' designed for such activities, and everyone there was there for that reason?
Originally posted by Teratoma
I also believe that I've traveled out-of-body and dreamed AT THE SAME TIME. I used to dismiss these experiences as pure dreams, because I'd be flying over otherwise familiar territory, and everything was as it would be at that hour, only "WAIT A MINUTE, I don't remember there being a big Ferris-wheel in the middle of that intersection!"
Originally posted by WanDash
Have considered this question, as well.
Without "service to self", I wonder if "self" would be able to survive.
Thats really interesting, thanks for sharing! I what you mean by that "WTF are you DOING?" reaction people in dreams give. Ive experienced it myself. I often dream of zombies (dont ask lol), and sometimes its an all-out battle for survival. Sometimes i can kill every zombie in the dream, other times they give me that "WTF??" vibe and i cant hurt em.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by SyntheticPerception
reply to post by WanDash
What a coincidence running into your here.
Coincidence?
I'm thinking - Conspiracy!
THIS i am very familiar with. I have dreas where i am not flying but instead each step is like im on Earth with 5% gravity. I can leap houses with one step. In these dreams EACTLY what you describe occurs. Its like reality, but its not reality. I have likened these dreams to a mini-astral travel. As if astral travel was achieved unintentionally and accordingly was not fully achieved, so instead a dream/astral travel resulted. These dreams always feel amazing though, even when they are in an environment that is not so positive.