Yeah, sure, I'd like a girlfriend. Just like i'd like a Lamborghini.

Wow, this topic soared.

OP, I'm devilishly good looking. I'm 28 but look like I'm 20 (great genes) with an athletic body and I'm very successful. I have have a quiet confidence about me (except when trolling online).

Yet I don't get women throwing themselves at me. Know why? I just never put in the time to research what women are looking for or invested energy into it. I only dated one woman in my life and only because she was the one brave enough to approach me and put in all the energy. I always figured it was too much work to keep a gf and manage all that nonsense just for the payout (sex). However, you want cuddling etc. too, so here's my advice.

Get energy and use it to research and learn about women and the dating ritual game. You gotta work at it more than just going with your gut. Both of my brothers did and had it down to such a science that one was having sex with a new girl or two every week. No hookers involved. This could easily be turned into getting and maintaining a good gf too I'm sure. I'm sure others mentioned how to go about doing this and you don't need page #10 specifics by now.

Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
OMFG...

(A) Women know our game better than we do.
(B) We have no !@#$%^&* IDEA about their game, because they don't...

Here's some advice:

(1) Expect NOTHING.
(2) Be YOURSELF.
(3) The only thing you should be interested in is getting to KNOW her.
(4) Do you want HPB? Monogamy until commitment...

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Put more than one picture up FFS...
You're almost maxed out in "less trusting" Dude, BIGGEST turn off for women EVER...
Respectable women respond to HUMBLE confidence.

/sorry for yelling.

This will cheer you up

edit on 24-11-2012 by ConspiracyBuff because: Face! + Vid!

This video had me crying with laughter...thanks.

Has to be a joke of course..but man, funny stuff.

Originally posted by MasonicFantom
Wow, this topic soared.

OP, I'm devilishly good looking. I'm 28 but look like I'm 20 (great genes) with an athletic body and I'm very successful. I have have a quiet confidence about me (except when trolling online).

Yet I don't get women throwing themselves at me. Know why? I just never put in the time to research what women are looking for or invested energy into it. I only dated one woman in my life and only because she was the one brave enough to approach me and put in all the energy. I always figured it was too much work to keep a gf and manage all that nonsense just for the payout (sex). However, you want cuddling etc. too, so here's my advice.

Get energy and use it to research and learn about women and the dating ritual game. You gotta work at it more than just going with your gut. Both of my brothers did and had it down to such a science that one was having sex with a new girl or two every week. No hookers involved. This could easily be turned into getting and maintaining a good gf too I'm sure. I'm sure others mentioned how to go about doing this and you don't need page #10 specifics by now.

edit on 25-11-2012 by MasonicFantom because: (no reason given)

What you wrote is eerily close to my own situation even down to having one girlfriend, and that was only because she chased me relentlessly. I have a quiet confidence as well, but have never let it become "Bravado", and I believe that's the difference between men who have woman flocking to them and those that walk around in quiet confidence.

I used to have a roommate who was rude, unattractive, and an overall jerk, but the guy was very confident and talked big throwing bravado left and right. I would be stunned at the incredibly gorgeous and intelligent woman he would bring to his room (overnight) on a consistent basis (every couple of weeks). One in particular was a girl who had a boyfriend who was a virgin and she was really "serious" about him (this is what she told my roommate).. and she would come over a few times a week and stay overnight with this roommate (and this poor "boyfriend" not having a clue what was going on), and well... I'm sure I don't have to tell you what went on but it was ridiculous to the point where the rest of us roommates had to say we weren't cool with it. Needless to say, living with this roommate and seeing all of these seemingly beautiful and intelligent woman giving themselves to a jerk... really did a mind trip on me. Being once a hopeless romantic, I've never been able to be quite as optimistic when it comes to love and dating after seeing first hand what so many woman seem to want... It's still very puzzling to me.. even though I recognize what seems to work in many cases.

remember what marlene dietricht had to say about men.

the one i want is the one i cant have. i think that applies because the woman is basically insecure(women in general) and if she can push the man around then he proves he is not strong and therefore of little use to her.

that being said, in asia it does not work like that. i know of a case where the guy said he'll kill himself if she does not consent to be his girlfriend. well, obviously a major sign of weakness in the west but he got the girl anyhow and still has 8 years later.

As with men, so with women, its called the 'genetic imperative', where men want one last sexual encounter before leaving the cave to go hunting, and perhaps get killed, the women are looking for a rich/good hunter guy to provide for their children. Everything else is just to make life more pleasant, as far as possible.

Climb down from your mysoginistic high horse and stop being a pussy. That will help you immensely you infantile manbaby.

Unfortunately it's the same for both sides:

An Exploration On How Low Some Guys Will go on Dating Sites

Dating sites are probably the worst place to look. They are full of shallow women and men.

I'm a nice guy and I got laid all the time (when I was into that), never was the case until I discovered a secret... or several.

Women deserve respect, a lot. It's them that has to go through the emotional rollercoaster.. not you (as much). Rock up to your new ladies house, with flowers / chocolate, ice cream (ice cream is winner.. got me laid many a time), and show no interest in sex. None. If she tries to advance.. Say no! You're too tired.. or you don't feel like it then act disinterested (slightly). If she thought she had you, her mind will be racing. Right, step one.. tick.

edit: the reason one may refuse the first advance is to reduce the possible risk of her feeling cheap. We don't want that. Some ladies may just be wanting attention, and flirting is one way to get that, but sex isn't at all what they want. If she is not into it half way through the deed, then you'll both feel pretty bad. Here.. we're hatching a plan! one that doesn't hurt anyone.

Step 2. The next time, say for dinner at hers, rock up, and spoil her rotten. Set the mood, brings romantic props (scented candles, nice food, oil to massage her feet if she's into that). It looks like to her that something is on your mind. But it's not! She'll most likely refuse sexy time this time around anyway (because of last time, if she did think she had you)... you're there to show that you can be pretty sensitive and romantic. step 2.. done

Step 3. Now it's time to go public. Go to a bar / club. Now here you're trying to gauge her jealous response system. Look fleetingly at other women and note her response.. does she respond? if yes then stop. If no, she either may not be the jealous type, or she is good at hiding her emotions (some are.. I assure you)... then back to her/your place. Bring out the oil.. time to massage again (non-kinkily.. maybe a little). A good tip to ensure a massage is on the cards is to suggest she looks pretty sexy in uncomfortable shoes for the evening (high heels etc). If she's not into massages, then this particualr technique may need some refining .. never met a lady that doesn't though. So there you are, having illicited a jealous response (hopefully), her feet kill her, and your there making things better. Tonight, things may go well for you... but be wary that she may infact be tired, and you should respect that 100%. But by this stage.. things should be looking good (unless you over did the looking at other ladies thing).

Now I don't have a foot fetish haha! but I find it's a great spot to be intimate without being sexual, and it's practical (she'll feel good after!). Arms are good too. You want her to feel good!

If the sex isn't happening, it may very well be that there are other issues at hand, and if they're obvious.. you should attempt to help her out. Not for sex!.. just do the decent thing. She may have a bad experience with men, her work, ex-partner. You need to care... for her sake.

I'm not sure what ladies here will think of my response so that'll be interesting. But put it this way. Being sensitive, nice and a little cunning, you can have a great time (not just sex) with the opposite sex and everyone wins.

Me currently? 5 years into a relationship, very loving, caring.. and best of all, we're best friends. It's not about sex at all but companionship. She awesome and she deserves the best I can give. Yep, she's crazy, emotional etc. Love her to bits!

Edit 2: this advice is for dudes that aren't douchebags when it comes to women. If you're a douche, then you'll never get much!

Originally posted by orangutang
remember what marlene dietricht had to say about men.

the one i want is the one i cant have. i think that applies because the woman is basically insecure(women in general) and if she can push the man around then he proves he is not strong and therefore of little use to her.

So women like that just use males to become stronger themselves? And once they've 'beaten' a guy or feel they are more powerful than he is they throw it away and get a stronger specimen?

Because I can recognize the mode of thinking or at least I do. I wonder if and how many guys out there are faking to be genuinely "touched" by women and responding to their expectations because they think this will make the woman think they are on the same line of thought and hence compatible while in fact the women just loses interest because there's nothing new there. Personally I deem these women to be the thrill seeking kind to be avoided just like the gold digging kind.

Just for the benefit of the less worldly inexperienced yet very opinionated people on this topic:

Not every woman with man-eating tendencies is an evil and satisfied manipulator around to make you and your fellow man feel inadequate. Some people have yet to get over or go through the necessary treatment or have not had the needed time to heal from previous abuse and trauama. Often times these stem from victimization as children.

Yes, there are women who small mindedly use their persuasion and attraction abilities to torment and abuse for no good reason.

But there is a lot more to keep in mind when judging people you don't know at all let alone know the full history and life story of. If you don't have the patience and understanding to find out who an individual truly is and where they come from, then you should be able to skip over without too much tears shed or poison spat.

Or you only deserve someone as perfect and put together as you judge yourself to already be. Some beautifully introspective, well rounded humans we have on this site indeed!

another observation i have made is that the west is dominated by the left brain and being a woman which is right brained and having to grow up in a left brained society will put her at a disadvantage. some more than others. so some "faults/behaviours" of hers may be due to her environment.
in asia it appears they are more right brained in their society and so the woman is developed to her best in that environment.
just an observation of mine, but i feel there is some/a lot of truth in it.

they always appear to me to be real females, closer to the 100% and therefore more desirable.

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Oh yeah, I mean like it's common knowledge that those women people with their wombs and ovulations and funny round bits and stuff are exclusively right-brained thinkers. I mean that's why they don't think proper like normal dudes. Except in Asia, like, where people are like *real* emotional (closer to nature you see), so they fit in better over there.

Originally posted by Ismail
I've read through the thread, and this is killing me. Before I continue, I'm a dude.

Ok. Op, and many others, you speak of women as if you were big game hunters, or fishermen exchanging tips and techniques about some curious exotic creature with a vagina. You're all lumping women into catergories and what you need to do to get this or that, comparing them with hookers, cars and whatnot, and frankly I'm not surprised that the op can't get a girlfriend.

Reality Update : women are not objects to be collected, or prey to be caught.They are human individuals with qwirks and good sides, just the same as any other human being, males included. Relationships with women are the same as any other relantionship with any other human being. No wonder you're not "getting a girl", and frankly with the kind of mindset you have, even if you did "get a girl", it would be a fairly **itty relationship.

Start considering women like other people instead of a different species, and that might be start. There are no magical ways to unlock womens undies, and just because you have a *ick and you paid for Mc Donalds doesn't mean that you're entitled to get in them anyways.

Jeez. It's scary the way most of you think of women. Really. Frightening. It says a lot about human interaction today. I thought this was the 21 st century, turns out you people are still stuck in the 19 th.

Well you said it perfectly. My thoughts as well. Wish I could give u more than 1 star!

Some opinions on this threads are really REALLY sad.

Nothing more to add.

Originally posted by sajuek
Climb down from your mysoginistic high horse and stop being a pussy. That will help you immensely you infantile manbaby.

Spoken like a real piece of #

Hahaha ! It's soooo true man! I love my kitty! Now that you reminded me of her I am going to find her, hug her and kiss her. I just hope she didn't drink from the toilet again LOLOL!

Originally posted by AnimositisominA
Real ladies men learn to do without.
Its kinda like trying to call a housecat over to be petted. You call its name and pat your lap and it slowly struts away. The minute you ignore it though, its on your chest with its ass in your face lol.
I wish it were that simple for Lambos.

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Nah man.. as much as the word has been worn out, you do come off super mysonistic. Except you have come to that place inexplicably as you apparently have very little experience with girls.

If you want to find a girl you have to be nice to them, and then they have to find you interesting. If you force a fit by any means it will fall apart. Stop looking at it like a game or a challenge. There are no techniques or tips. Find a girlfriend the same way you find a regular friend when you are in school. You tend to befriend people you genuinely like. If you are trying to just get laid then that's fine, get laid, but don't be an idiot when you can't figure out why the relationship based on the premise of having sex, doesn't work. I don't think I have ever had a relationship that lasted less than a year, but I've also gone several months to maybe even a year without a regular sex life or maybe even none at all (which is still better than getting caught up in what you are caught up in).You and I go about finding partners in complete opposite ways.

Also, dating websites are the last resort.. like.. after the bar, after the strip club, last resort. Also you said all the girls started messaging after you posted that pic.. I have to believe either you were overly sensitive to girls innocently asking if you owned a plane/flew OR you posted the pic as to imply you owned a plane/flew and are now using it as a means to bash girls in general (well in your defense dating site girls in general) to strangers.

This post has done nothing to damage the image we have of females, but it hasn't done you ANY favors.

Don't watch the vid if language sensitive.

OP... I feel this is relevant...

Originally posted by RobertF
reply to post by phroziac

 

Hookers are cheaper, and they don't come with the baggage, just saying.

I beg to differ. I would certainly classify the likelihood that you will contract an STD as baggage. When that hooker gives you the drips, I think you'll see my point!

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Not true. My husband and I have been together almost 14 years. We still have sex everyday (sorry if that's TMI)
we still hug, we still hold hands, we're very affectionate...If you get married and the intimacy disappears then you're obviously with the wrong woman. I'm not saying we don't ever argue but we always come back together at the end of the day because we love each other.