NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama

reply to post by Juggernog

You know what I really hope this does? I agree with you that they will likely not get so much as a phone call over what happened. However, they did this at an Early voting station.

I'm really hoping the advanced warning to what may come gets Texas moving with their own observers. In the bad old days of the 60's and 70's, a book I'd read went into a lot of detail by a Texas Ranger of the lengths they had to go to insure fair voting for the Hispanic population. The days of La Raza Unida..before they dropped the Unida part.

So, perhaps with the forewarning, they can get their Rangers out this election season. After the investigation and aftermath of the Waco incident, I really have come to respect and trust the Rangers as one of the few Law Enforcement organizations left in America with a core integrity and sense of Honor to them. They'd be perfect to see this funny business does not happen tomorrow when it's all for the full production. We can hope, right?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Ouch.. On #1. I stated....this story was first posted at a site I work at. That site is based miles from this location. I posted this with some PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE from those I work with,

Missed that part...apologies, still said anecdotal + Bias/Townhall.com doesn't boost credibility.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
and find it obscene that "It's conservative" is literally the best you or the anyone has been able to do in showing this isn't credible.

Well, thank goodness that wasn't the "best" I could come up with. You seem to have discounted fundemental logic? Why would any organization risk significant legal consequences to sway the vote in a state where Romney leads by +20?? Deep breath...no bias...does that make any sense what-so-ever?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

On #2.. Electioneering is very broadly defined. They should have checked that. Wearing T-shirts of any kind that carries Political message, advocacy OR POLITICAL AFFILIATION is illegal. That is Texas state law, for starters. That is electioneering and that is, flat out, what they are guilty of. To START. Last I checked, the NAACP does participate in partisan political events.

The NAACP does participate in "partisan politics"...so does "Truethevote"...taking money from GOP activists, attending GOP events and founded by a Tea Party head. Confused on what the distinction is?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000


On #3. This, I'm just surprised...and sad. I had the impression you read the full threads before actually attacking people.

My bad...busy day...long OP, thought I got the gist of it, but should have read the full OP.

So you concede that this makes no sense from a strategic standpoint? Then what was the motivation? Either local or national. I am uncertain why you think that the local NAACP would think it possible to turn TX blue and reverse a +20 lead for Romney any more than the national NAACP? I still have to return to the most logical explanation...they were handing out water on a warm day where there were long lines?

reply to post by Indigo5


Sure. Local elections.

In my hometown we have a proposition on the ballot to turn our EDC from a 4a to a 4b type EDC. It is very contentious. People who care less about the POTUS are voting on Prop 1 here in my town.

I don't know what is happening in Houston. Perhaps there are matters on the ballot of local import?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

I don't know what is happening in Houston. Perhaps there are matters on the ballot of local import?

Well that would discredit the OP?

NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama

Not that it isn't already discredited...where again were they "advocating for President Obama?" and how did they "Take Over" the polling station?

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

I don't know what is happening in Houston. Perhaps there are matters on the ballot of local import?

Well that would discredit the OP?

NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama

Not that it isn't already discredited...where again were they "advocating for President Obama?" and how did they "Take Over" the polling station?

wait........how is it discredited again? Because YOU say so?

Since when did you become an authority on anything other then your own opinion?

Just because you dont like something, doesnt discredit it................

Please provide me with the information that says the information in the OP was false........

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

I don't know what is happening in Houston. Perhaps there are matters on the ballot of local import?

Well that would discredit the OP?

NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama

Not that it isn't already discredited...where again were they "advocating for President Obama?" and how did they "Take Over" the polling station?

wait........how is it discredited again? Because YOU say so?

No...breath...read...BFFT proposed (not me) that the NAACP were not advocating for President Obama, but possibly for a local issue that was on the ballot.

The OP title..."NAACP...Advocates for President Obama"...ditto article title?

Pretty plain there...all it requires is reading...It's the headline of the OP...did you miss it?

Not sure why you want to rage at me for pointing out the OP title or responding to BFFT's post in a logical way?

While you are hopefully considering rational thought...how did the "NAACP" .."Take Over" the polling station by handing out water in line?

Here's hoping you have an answer that has something to do with the actual posts or discussion.

reply to post by Indigo5


Or possibly they were there for a local issue, but being simple minded (as evidenced by the fact that they support Obama ) they lost sight of their target and began rallying for Obama.

Or, maybe the whole story is just more election day BS meant to rally some troops for another cause.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Or, maybe the whole story is just more election day BS

Plenty of that to go around...election day BS is a bipartisan ritual

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

 

I'm sorry, but I'm guessing you are white and a man, because NOBODY else thinks this is a huge problem

Maybe you shouldn't guess. I am a man, but I am not white. I am Melungeon.

Your last post makes it clear that did in fact support the voter intimidation that occurred and was captured on videotape.

I don't see where you need to inject race into it. If you support voter intimidation on one side only, that is fine, it is your choice. If you support the Black Panthers, that is okay too. Just because very few do, doesn't mean that you shouldn't stick to your beliefs.

You have to say I support voter intimidation because without that - you've got nothing to complain about. I only called your fears silly, because these are hardly large incidents, nor nearly as widespread as the NeoCon and TeaBag voter intimidation going on. You worry about 3 people with a black panther t-Shirt and now a dozen black people with "True the Vote" on a t-shirt. So that's almost 15 people who make you feel like there is MASSIVE repression and intimidation -- and it's NOT because they are black.

Now I understand -- the common thread to your fears is T-Shirts with Slogans!

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

 

Good to see that you support violation of federal law and nothing being done about it by the officials that are responsible for enforcing the law.

Good to see you can still get people to star a comment by everyone agreeing NOT to pay attention to what is being said. I'm sure you will get a lot of like-minded individuals to pretend they are being scared by 15 people who handed out water bottles.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

Now I understand -- the common thread to your fears is T-Shirts with Slogans!

What fear?
That is something that you are brewing up in that fertile mind of yours.

You mentioned the Black Panthers (a racist organization) in a manner which made light of them breaking the law and an Attorney General of the US that left it go.

My support of a good law doesn't mean that I am in fear.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

Good to see you can still get people to star a comment by everyone agreeing NOT to pay attention to what is being said.

I guess the problem for you is that some people paid attention to what you said:

Wow THREE? OMG! That's almost as large as the Black Panther showing that Fox News was freaking out about.

I supported Eric Holder ignoring a stupid incident.

Some people support enforcement of the law.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


when you have nothing left, rub out some ad hominem, huh?

It has nothing to do with tshirts. it has everything to do with voter laws. Just because the politics of these people jives with you doesn't mean it should be ignored.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


Aside from the fact that logic fails to support the OP, it's headline or claims as I outlined above...No motive or evidence of the NAACP either trying to turn TX blue or "taking over" the polling station....just handing out water.

What I am confused about...the NAACP endorses certain candidates, but is not "part" of a political party or obligated to endorse either candidate ...Otherwise if someone is wearing an NRA hat? Doesn't it have to be a Political PAC or the DNC, RNC or Romney or Obama campaign group etc. to be considered "electioneering"?

Would I get pulled aside for wearing an NRA tee-shirt or something similair?

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

Aside from the fact that logic fails to support the OP, it's headline or claims as I outlined above...No motive or evidence of the NAACP either trying to turn TX blue or "taking over" the polling station....just handing out water.

What I am confused about...the NAACP endorses certain candidates, but is not "part" of a political party or obligated to endorse either candidate ...Otherwise if someone is wearing an NRA hat? Doesn't it have to be a Political PAC or the DNC, RNC or Romney or Obama campaign group etc. to be considered "electioneering"?

Would I get pulled aside for wearing an NRA tee-shirt or something similair?

If you and a couple of other people were wearing NRA shirts, still not likely an issue.

But if you are giving away gifts (bottled water has value and is therefore a gift) then that is electioneering.

They can show up and quietly stand there, like a normal citizen going about their normal daily routines, and there will be no issue.

If the reports of cutting people in line are true, that just makes their intent that much worse. But that seems to be so stupid as to be wholly unbelievable on the surface.

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

Aside from the fact that logic fails to support the OP, it's headline or claims as I outlined above...No motive or evidence of the NAACP either trying to turn TX blue or "taking over" the polling station....just handing out water.

What I am confused about...the NAACP endorses certain candidates, but is not "part" of a political party or obligated to endorse either candidate ...Otherwise if someone is wearing an NRA hat? Doesn't it have to be a Political PAC or the DNC, RNC or Romney or Obama campaign group etc. to be considered "electioneering"?

Would I get pulled aside for wearing an NRA tee-shirt or something similair?

If you and a large group of people were in a polling station with NRA shirts and caps and you were trying to influence people to vote for the Republican candidate, the cops would be there within 30 minutes.
Then you wouldve been escorted outside, searched for weapons and detained or even arrested.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


If you and a couple of other people were wearing NRA shirts, still not likely an issue.

But if you are giving away gifts (bottled water has value and is therefore a gift) then that is electioneering.

Even if the NRA didn't talk politics, but just handed out water? I mean, I can understand how a fierce liberal would not appreciate a group from the NRA being present, but the NRA is not the RNC, they simply choose to endorse Republicans, but they are an issue group not a party...and if they aren't actually talking to voters about candidates, but just handing out water? If a Mormon church group did the same? A black baptist group?

Just curious on the threshold and what constitutes actual electioneering vs. percieved electioneering as viewed by the law. Maybe I will do some googling.

How about no group giving away anything at a polling place. Voting is not that long of a process. Take a drink from a bottle of water in your car before heading into the polling place.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
If the reports of cutting people in line are true, that just makes their intent that much worse. But that seems to be so stupid as to be wholly unbelievable on the surface.

Ironic...that bit might be the answer to the mystery.

The poll lines stretched to a minimum of a 3 hour wait, polls closed at 7pm, those in line are still allowed to vote and were waiting at a minimum until 10pm.

Apparently there are reports that the NAACP was trying to help disabled voters move to the front of the line.

Assistant County Attorney Doug Ray was present and says that the NAACP was straightened out, disabled or not, you can't mess with the line. He also said that their was absolutely NO ELECTIONEERING going on, no talk of Obama etc.

www.chron.com...

Truththevote also claimed in WI that a mystery bus was going to polling booth to polling booth filled with foriegners that were illegally registering and voting, though no one was able to identify or see the mystery bus.

Just not buying it.

I thinik the NAACP had good intentions, but made a mistake in trying to help disabled voters who were waiting 3+ hours in line late at night. The rest is spin and BS IMHO.

Why no video or pictures of this "take over"?

Do people in Houston not have cameras?