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militant islam is in grave danger right now...i don't think its gonna make it.
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by michaelbrux
militant islam is in grave danger right now...i don't think its gonna make it.
I sincerely hope you are correct.
They are a step backwards in the progress of civilization.
The dethroning of sacred narratives and sacred myths in a culture is impossible without a free press. No such institution exists in the West, which explains why the official 9/11 story is still considered a sacred narrative in the Western mind eleven years after the traumatic events.
There is censorship in the mainstream media, and most of it is self-censorship, as heroic British journalist Alan Hart said in this interview. What this proves is that America and the Western world is just as totalitarian as the Islamic Republic of Iran and the religion of Islam.
The Muslim world's intense reaction to the anti-Islam film which originated from America is a reminder that blasphemous offenses to totalitarian cultures and religions are not tolerated. People want their beliefs to be validated and consider them sacrosanct. Both rational criticism and monstrous insults are forbidden.
In Islam, Muhammad's image can't be criticized because it is sacred; in the West the official 9/11 story can't be criticized because it is sacred. The claim that there is freedom of speech in America and the West is a big lie. Sure, you can criticize Islam and foreign countries, but there are social and political restrictions upon speech when the 9/11 lie or the crimes of Israel are brought up for discussion.
The vicious trick that is used to cover up this blatant double standard is the "conspiracy theory" label. This label is the peaceful way of cutting off a heretic's head in the West. It is less savage than the Islamic method of dealing with heretics and blasphemous disbelievers, but it is just as effective.
People who use the label "conspiracy theorist" in a debate about the 9/11 events are intellectual savages who have the sword of error in their hand. They can't win the battle of ideas with rational arguments so they pull out their sword and tell you to submit to the official U.S. line on 9/11 or face the axe of ridicule. The individuals who refuse to kneel are branded as "conspiracy theorists," and "crazy truthers."
Originally posted by TechVampyre
Movie should stay.. End of story. Freedom of speech does exist my friend.. Though it seems hard to believe these days..
Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth
I think there is a difference between free speech and hate speech, which is why I would never support the film. It is in very poor taste. If I had a vote, I'd vote to have it taken down. Why? Because I don't want my 14 year old daughter, who regularly watches song blips with the words, on YouTube - exposed to it.
I think the ethics of that issue between free speech and hate speech, is important to discuss. It's important that American's remember our constitutional rights and not let our own religious bias (or lack thereof) color their perceptions.
Another freedom is our freedom to practice religion. Shouldn't that include a respect for beliefs differing from your own? As we are seeing in the Middle East, religious bias, creates mayhem and anger. Feelings can be hurt. National pride is national pride. It is not as if American's are the only one's who care about their way of life and beliefs.
I think it's also important to use logic and reasoning. Discussing and looking at issues from all sides.
I don't begrudge you your position or anything. I am American, and I cherish my rights too. I just find it a perplexing, but interesting, issue.
Originally posted by wlasikiewicz
why should YouTube remove it? Think of the traffic they will be getting because of this.
Originally posted by michaelbrux
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by michaelbrux
Well I see something really dangerous with the Middle East consolidating under Sharia and China protesting to go into Japan, probably Korea next. Its NWO and the regions they are forming.
So they want to topple US and the West's freedom.
I don't see anything dangerous at all..just informative. the riots were going to happen anyway...but they had no good excuse to riot so an excuse was created for them. and that tape was the excuse...a copy of the movie will probably find its way to the Library of Congress.
militant islam is in grave danger right now...i don't think its gonna make it.
How dare we allow a corporation, an internet WEBSITE to represent America?
Originally posted by Unity_99
Originally posted by michaelbrux
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by michaelbrux
Well I see something really dangerous with the Middle East consolidating under Sharia and China protesting to go into Japan, probably Korea next. Its NWO and the regions they are forming.
So they want to topple US and the West's freedom.
I don't see anything dangerous at all..just informative. the riots were going to happen anyway...but they had no good excuse to riot so an excuse was created for them. and that tape was the excuse...a copy of the movie will probably find its way to the Library of Congress.
militant islam is in grave danger right now...i don't think its gonna make it.
That part makes zero sense "the riots would happen anyway" yet they still needed an excuse made up......!
Why would they happen anyway, without an excuse, if there was not a real agenda, which I believe is NWO/Agenda 21, where the world will be carved up into 10 regions with massive controls over freedom.
What my friend told me, is aside from the middle east consolidating, China will take over Japan and Korea, and then those 2 will invade the so called semi free nations.
And they're on a time schedule.
In agenda 21, where they wrote a section on women, and protection from violence world wide, I read, headscarves and burqa's.
Well, we'll be walking around in packs of women, with bear spray and clubs, wearing whatever we please if they even try to impose this crapola.edit on 16-9-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by CirqueDeTruth
How dare we allow a corporation, an internet WEBSITE to represent America?
You know that there are plenty of websites out there that are DEVOTED to hate groups in some form or another...
Do you think that THESE websites, "represent" America?
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by CirqueDeTruth
How dare we allow a corporation, an internet WEBSITE to represent America?
You know that there are plenty of websites out there that are DEVOTED to hate groups in some form or another...
Do you think that THESE websites, "represent" America?