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Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by SplitInfinity
but one U.S. Carrier Group is powerful enough to Destroy the entire Chinese Navy.
What delusion, a dozen ships and a couple of squadrons of F/A-18s. Not quite.
A Single Carrier Group has Multiple Hundreds of Nuclear Weapons aboard it
Unless there is a ballistic-missile sub, in fact, several, then no.
Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
We could fight the entire world on every front possible and still win. Every country in the world combined can not come close to matching the US Navy.
Where do you pull this nonsense from? Yes, everyone country in the entire world is just slightly, a little bit more of a match for the US Navy.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
From what I understand, the neighboring regions are terrified by the idea of Japan rearming. They've got a long memory. That might have something to do with it. I think that the Japanese have something in their constitution that prohibits their rearmament as well, but that could probably be changed.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by Morg234
Well, I'm pretty sure we carry nuclear weapons on carriers. No telling how many, but probably not hundreds.
And about the comments that the USN could defeat everyone else's navies, I think the USN might have a fighting chance under certain conditions, say, deep-water vs. deep-water battles. If the USN tried to invade everyone else, they'd lose. But if, say, the Russians, North Koreans, and Chinese tried invade the US, they'd lose. The US Navy has really good deep-water assets (carriers, nuclear submarines) but their effectiveness degrades once you begin to near enemy coastlines, where you can have people shooting MRBMs at you, to say nothing of swarms of light attack boats and SAM systems.
Originally posted by ezwip
Japan rams any Chinese fishing boots that go in there. It should have been obvious to Japan at the time they were falling into a trap. I knew the crap was hitting the fan when I saw this picture.edit on 15-9-2012 by ezwip because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by sonnny1
I SERIOUSLY WISH this wasn't real!
The Chinese are calling this a "Law enforcement" Operation, There are protests in China, One guy drove a Toyota into a dealership in china and set it on fire among other Japanese car burning incidents. Tourism adverts for japan have been dropped and there is a 20% decrease in cross tourism with cancellations coming in. If nothing else this is already further economic drain.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Sure, but there's also South Korea, for instance. Not that I particularly mind Japan rearming...
And yeah, our aircraft carriers give us a huge advantage. I'm not sure how well our F-18s would do against modern anti-air surface vessels, but I'm sure they'd do a lot better than no F-18s.
Originally posted by babybunnies
Anyone who thinks a conflict between America and China will be military in nature is out to lunch.
A conflict with China would be economic and cyber in nature. The Chinese have all but admitted having Government sponsored hacking incursions into American computer systems.
With the over $1 trillion of hard US currency the Chinese are currently holding, they can bring down US communication and computer systems, crash the dollar in overseas trading before anyone knows what's going on, and the USA would be broke before the first shot was fired.
There would be such turmoil inside Washington that a conflict with China would be the furthest thing from their minds,