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Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
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But you aren't including the dream state, something nobody else can account for. You don't know my dreams because you aren't experiencing it, so therefore that is a "present moment" that you can't account for. Noone on the planet can account for it. It is a form of time travel, in my opinion.....
Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
reply to post by trysts
It's definitely possible. I am not claiming it to be time travel, and by all accounts, it could be. But what if? Isn't that what Einstein said, imagination is more important than knowledge? Isn't imagination the driving force behind all mankind"s greatest inventions and achievements?
The only thing I claim, is that it's "real" to me, and this is all that matters. It is something not experienced in the "present" like the OP has been claiming because the entire universe for all intents and purposes is closed off to it.
Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
reply to post by arpgme
LOL ok twist your logic anyway you want. I am not currently in my dream state, and I know this because it's only "real" to me. I'd love to keep playing in this thread but I am not really enjoying the circular logic. Peace.
Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
reply to post by trysts
Damnit! Ok im back. Time is only relevant to the observer. When I sleep I experience time dilation, floating outside of my body and sense things like when I am awake. It's true my body may still be in my bed, but I am observing something else at that given moment.
I have lucid dreams just about every night. I am able to extend the dream and keep my self engaged however long I want. It is my notion that I can experience whatever moment I have had in my life almost like viewing a videotape of the event. Therefore that is time travel to me.edit on 8/11/2012 by The Endtime Warrior because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by foodstamp
Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
reply to post by trysts
Damnit! Ok im back. Time is only relevant to the observer. When I sleep I experience time dilation, floating outside of my body and sense things like when I am awake. It's true my body may still be in my bed, but I am observing something else at that given moment.
I have lucid dreams just about every night. I am able to extend the dream and keep my self engaged however long I want. It is my notion that I can experience whatever moment I have had in my life almost like viewing a videotape of the event. Therefore that is time travel to me.edit on 8/11/2012 by The Endtime Warrior because: (no reason given)
Time is subjective so, yes, I too would call that a form of time travel. Makes sense to me.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by trysts
Even if it is physical, it is still subjective. While you (the subject) are going through time... traveling... everyone else is unaware in "The Now".
So it is not an "objective" experience, but only "subjective" that the subject is experience without the objectivity of others.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by trysts
Even if the person went in the time machine, the audience would have no verification that the person actually time traveled. Even if they changed the past somehow, they wouldn't know, they would just say that the person is crazy and that it's been that way all along. Even if they go into the future, again, there is no way to verify, it could just be a hoax and a great prediction.
Unless there is a screen TV that can operate throughout all times and the person in the present can actually OBSERVE the person shifting through times and walking about, it is all speculation and claims. Even if something changed they wouldn't be aware because it would have felt like it was that way all along. To their perspective, the person just disappeared in a "machine" and reappeared, and maybe not even disappear if they decide to come back at the exact moment they left.