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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
The only one lying in here are people like you....
You want to claim that Antifa, BLM, Black Panthers, etc are not Marxist and are no threat, or that i am exaggerating about them when I even post videos of them making death threats and they themselves say they are Marxist and they themselves have stated to want to murder whites, police officers and political opponents.
If you defend these people, and defend their calls to murder people no matter how many times you claim you do not defend them, you do. Every single time, including in this thread.
Now, stop attempting to derail the thread with your BS and lies. If you want to spread lies and your BS, then start your own thread.
originally posted by: daskakik
Where did I say anyone was lying?
originally posted by: daskakik
I never said anything about them being a threat or not.
originally posted by: daskakik
Just because I don't go along with whatever it is you think you are doing doesn't mean I am supporting the enemies you have in your head.
originally posted by: daskakik
Disagreeing with the labels you place on them isn't defending them.
Democracy in Marxism
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In Marxist theory, a new democratic society will arise through the organised actions of an international working class enfranchising the entire population and freeing up humans to act without being bound by the labour market.[1][2] There would be little, if any, need for a state, the goal of which was to enforce the alienation.[1] Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels stated in The Communist Manifesto and later works that "the first step in the revolution by the working class, is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle for democracy" and universal suffrage, being "one of the first and most important tasks of the militant proletariat".[3][4][5] As Marx wrote in his Critique of the Gotha Program, "between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat".[6] He allowed for the possibility of peaceful transition in some countries with strong democratic institutional structures (such as Britain, the US and the Netherlands), but suggested that in other countries in which workers can not "attain their goal by peaceful means" the "lever of our revolution must be force", stating that the working people had the right to revolt if they were denied political expression.[7][8] In response to the question "What will be the course of this revolution?" in Principles of Communism, Friedrich Engels wrote:
Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat.
— Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism
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originally posted by: daskakik
You necroed a 9 year old thread and replied to someone who hasn't been here in 7 years. That is the plain truth and this would be the thread to point that out, since this is where it happened.
originally posted by: daskakik
You want the truth, no matter what any system calls itself, it is all just crony capitalism. Hey, it at least has capitalism in the description.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
No?... When you claim that Antifa, BLM, etc are not Marxists, despite them themselves stating they are, what is that called? You attempted to imply that I was lying by claiming I was exaggerating and not stating the truth.
You lie claiming "these enemies of yours are only in your head" when these are the people whom have been burning U.S. cities, looting, attacking and killing people and police officers. Yet you have the galls to claim "they are in my head"?...
originally posted by: daskakik
I never said anything about them being a threat or not.
originally posted by: daskakik
Just because I don't go along with whatever it is you think you are doing doesn't mean I am supporting the enemies you have in your head.
You are not disagreeing, you are ignoring and dismissing what Marxists themselves say.
The topic of this thread is not why I reposted this thread. All you keep doing is lying and attempting to derail the thread with your lies.
You are so deluded, and such a liar that you even claim that no matter what a government calls itself that it is "crony capitalism..." You are claiming that socialism, communism, and every form of government is a form of capitalism. Whom keeps lying, is you.
The Antifa (Anti-Fascist Action) organization originated in the 1930s in Germany as a paramilitary arm of the German Communist Party that was used to fight and suppress liberal political parties and the burgeoning Nazi Party. This political movement, which operates under the same banner and communist ideology as the Antifa of the 1930s, is now well established in the U.S.
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Let's get one thing clear. Antifa is an Anarcho-Communist cause. Those on the left who call us "patriots", step the # away. #BostonResist pic.twitter.com/fXV3mgK45j
— Boston Antifa (@AntifaBoston) August 19, 2017
It would seem undeniable that Hitler and Mussolini, like the Soviet Union's Joseph Stalin, were revolutionaries and in no sense conservatives or traditionalists. Their ideologies grew out of the avant-garde positivist, progressive, and pragmatic philosophies of the late 19th century.
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Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries. (Wealth redistribution)
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
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COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
National Socialist Party
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National Socialist Party or Nazi Party may refer to:
Asia
Jatiyo Samajtantrik Dal (National Socialist Party), Bangladesh (socialist)
National Revolutionary Socialist Party, India (Marxist/Leftist)
National Socialist Party (Jordan), 1954-1957 (socialist)
National Socialist Council of Nagaland, India (Maoist)
National Socialist Party of Tripura, India (Tripuri nationalist)
Iranian National Socialist Party (est. 1952) (pro-Hitler, antisemitic (both anti-Arab and antisemitic))
Syrian Social Nationalist Party (secular, nationalist, pro-Syria, fascist)
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
People like you are so deluded that you all called, not just you, the New Zealand mass murderer as "right-wing"...
But you and other far-leftists don't want to admit this because deep down inside you know the truth of what you are.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Ah, of course... Even when you read it/hear it from the horse's mouth you want to claim it is false and that there must be some other ulterior motive for these people stating whom they are, far left-wing...
If they call themselves anti-fascists but use fascist tactics time and again it shows them to be fascists.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
ROFLMAO... Yeah, because China is a right-wing dictatorship right?... GTFO.
Now you are even denying what you have posted even when I even re-posted many of your false claims from your own mouth/fingers.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Right, because having values and beliefs that are parallel to communist China makes him a right-winger?