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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 03:20 AM
OMG. I get kicked off a free public blackjack forum for posting instructions of advance strategy information of a blackjack system that if done right gives the player a 10% advantage over the house. They said I posted advanced strategy information not publicly available against the T AND C's saying not to post advance strategy information.

The information is public knowledge, the book is public knowledge. Good luck getting a hold of a copy of the book it cost 2.5k.

Anyways the treachery went as far as telling all the newbies and readers of the forums to ignore the posts under my name by saying I have been discredited. Leaving out the part of why I had been banned, for posting advance strategy information not readily available for public knowledge. They banned me and then began to blatantly post misinformation. Just saying the politicians are not the only crooked ones. If looking for someone to blame one needs only to look in the mirror.

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 03:26 AM
What's the book called?

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 03:46 AM
Mathematics for students.

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:19 AM
Post the link, PDF, or whatever. We need to know what you are talking about, or else your post is a worthless piece of bandwidth.

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:29 AM
Oh yeah....comparing politicians to casino owners? Ha! That IS rich.

Casino operators, number runners, loan sharks, etc, etc, have always been crooked. They will pull every trick in the book to stack the odds against the regular Joe.

BUT...if anyone tries giving an edge to your average guy, THEY are the ones deemed as cheaters.

See how that works? Bring it on brotha....give up the goods. The playing field needs to be levelled,

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 05:53 AM
reply to post by ringlejames

Well, please summarize the blackjack system so we can all be 10% up on the house. I don't gamble very much myself, and in my only professional blackjack appearance lost 20 American dollars at Caesar's Palace in Vegas just to do it. So besides that glorius experience I am always 100% successful over the house, just by not playing.

posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:54 AM
Moderators? Whats up with this? No T & C vio's???
edit on 06-10-2010 by mysterioustranger because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 07:01 AM
reply to post by Holodomor

The book is called Exhibit Caa beyond counting. The original was just beyond counting.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 07:25 AM
reply to post by Aleister

Shuffle tracking the jist of it without typing up a 10 page book would be tens and aces are what wins the game. In a normal deck there are 20 ten valued cards and 4 aces. A Shuffle tracker usual is going to play a six deck game unless they get a good 4 deck game or force deep pen. on a double deck game. Anyways. A shuffle tracker knows that decks 1 and 4 will be shuffled together. A counter is able to tell you how many cards you are holding within 3 cards, if they are any good. Its called deck estimation. So if he counts the tens and aces in what he knows to be about a full deck and his ace count is 6 and a total of 26 ten valued cards were played, he would guess that the running count for this deck is -8. Now he counts the 4th deck. 7 aces and 25 ten valued cards were counted giving the deck a running count of -8. The total running count would be -16.

Now a real shuffle tracker would look at his two tracked decks in this six deck game and say I am just going to play the two decks I tracked. So in reality he has a running count of -16 with two decks remaining so his TC would be -8. Now technically the mention group of cards have not been played so actual remaining count of those two decks is +16 not minus 16. Talk about winning. Just the aces alone would be enough for me to gamble, but with the tens. WOW. Since I learnt shuffle tracking I win bigger than regular counting and I have not got the tap on the shoulder when using this technique, so It is either working or I am hallucinating all those 100 200 and 300 wins.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 11:41 AM
So you counted cards?

That is against the house rules, and they will boot you out for doing so.

Even if you go "beyond counting"...

I play mad blackjack, and I can count cards. And they do get upset if they catch you counting, looks like your odds are not 10% greater because you can not hide that you are counting...

Just stick with the right way to play, the only ones that get away with cheating are the casinos...

Want to test my claim?

I use a combonation of strategies whist playing the jack. My odds are relativly high, I would say I have a 12% average per-hand.

Pit-bosses are ALWAYS watching me. I have had them come up to the dealer on several occasions and ask "What's this guy doing?"

Every, let me emphasize; EVERY TIME the dealer tells them EXACTLY what I am doing. From how I am playing, right down to my betting strategy. Pit boss gets satisfied, and walks away. Unless of course I threw a count or two in, then the dealer tells them and I am out!

**Two occasions my awesome flirting abilities saved me, after the boss left the dealer said "Now stop counting, or I will have to tell on you."

PS: I "mixed" counting in. IE I didn't do it with each new shuffle, and they STILL can sniff it out. Realize, they hire counters and every form of cheater you can imagine, all of them working to catch you. (Eye-in-the-sky isn't just for thieves!)
edit on 5/13/2012 by adigregorio because: Obvious edit is obvious

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 07:59 PM
I don't understand why it is against the rules to count cards. So the house (casino) can use every trick in the book to get an edge on YOU the player, but if you can gain an edge it's forbidden?

How is it cheating exactly?

A card counter is not cheating IMO.

I'm not that in to gambling or cards at all and just am curious.
edit on 13-5-2012 by Goldcurrent because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:19 PM
reply to post by adigregorio

Counting cards is not illegal. Not one trucking bit. Last time I got the tap they said that I needed to go with because of suspicious activity. I told them that I did not have to go anywhere with them but out the front door to my car. And told them to tell the other players at the table why I was getting kicked out, because that is what you are going to do. I know my rights and try to back room me and I will slap kidnapping charges on you so high and sue you for so much that you would lose your job for not doing it right. Only place I have to go is to my car and out the door. You can 86 me all day but you cannot backroom my ass for counting.

Now a casino with a good lawyer can get me manipulating the cut card to my advantage when I "track" slugs of tens and aces.

That is all I am going to say I am going to finish reading your post and comment further if needed.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:31 PM
reply to post by adigregorio

How can I not hide that I am counting. I have amazing cover even the best get 86'ed all the time. Me I have not been 86'ed since my third trip ever to the casinos. I studied the game for 3 years before I even stepped foot in a casino. You play mad blackjack the only reason I aint won a couple mill is because I aint stupid and want this to supplement my income for the rest of my life instead of hitting them up for 16 million like don johnson did. That is one stupid man if you ask me. And the dis info spread by the casino about what he was doing was needed. The game is going down hill anyways. If I decided to win big I would shuffle track have my top bet out, which would be a spread of 1-20 which is very easy since tracking gives such great cover, and for the first two decks and have a 1-4 spread.

I have amazing cover. One would be talking my teeth out. I mean what kind of PROFESSIONAL COUNTER cant afford some dentures. Just lock them jaws and smile. Might look retarded but Idc what people think I am there to make a living and supplement my already amazing income.

The things I know. Blackjack aint the only casino game I can win at. That book paid for itself its first trip that I used the techniques in the book.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:37 PM
reply to post by adigregorio

As for the rest of your post, haha.

You cant tell me anything about blackjack I used to use a modified version of The Gordon Count. 92% playing efficiency anybody.

As for your heat you get. use some cover plays. Learn the 60+ basic strategy deviations you are supposed to use to be successful and have minimal cover. Me the first time I went to the casino I was closer to the high end of the standard deviation rather than closer to the EXPECTED VALUE. Three hours my first time playing in a casino, I had two female pit bosses stare at me without moving for a half an hour. For six and dd games I dont use rc's. I memorized the tc exacts for those games.

Anyways when it comes to blackjack you cant see me so... Have a nice day

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:40 PM
It's funny, you're not the first bloke to tout conspiracy when a T&C has been violated and action is taken due to said violation.

I am willing to wager (no pun) that you won't be the last, on this site, or any other.

Safe to say...tough luck (again pun not intended).

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:41 PM
reply to post by Goldcurrent

Counting is not cheating. It is frowned upon. And since the Exhibit CAA fiasco in NEVADA, no one has been arrested for counting alone.

Just so you know how well the tricks in this book works, after the original book came out the casino went out and bought out 92% of the published copies and as a way of agreeing with the amount of the lawsuit the author was not to re print the book. Me I have the community circulated never publicly released edition EXHIBTCAA.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:44 PM
reply to post by Goldcurrent

I aint got a problem posting the link. But which do you want. The post on the blackjack forum, which got deleted or the book. I can show you the T AND C rule where it says posting of advanced strategy information is prohibited. Which link do you want. Also how do you know it is a link to the book I dont think I posted that.

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:52 PM
reply to post by ringlejames

Wow! You sure seem angry...

The casino is a place of business, their rules are "no counting". I said it was "against the rules"...

Also, you seem to think the casinos are run like the one IN "Casino"...

There WERE alot of holes in the desert.

Lastly, I find it hard to believe you have won so much money. I mean with that kind of cash, you wouldn't be so upset about not being able to cheat more. (Cheat = breaking rules.)

Anyway, yeah. Tone it down a notch, I don't work for a casino I just play in them...

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 09:01 PM
reply to post by adigregorio

Sorry I have bi polar. Aint angry just get rawled up when talking bout blackjack I love everything about it and aint scared to point ou other players mistakes to make them better.

Let me guess you use the basic strategy table where you have the same moves in a negative count than a positive count.

Sorry if I offended you, meant nothing of the sort

posted on May, 13 2012 @ 09:04 PM
reply to post by adigregorio

Also I understand you dont believe I have won a bunch. I dont care. I usually play a double deck game with greens spreading 1-5 and usually play 2 casinos a day leaving after a 3-5 profit, which ever comes first. I usually only play 1-5 hands a casino also. I am that good and would not mind proving it if you want to do a live cam pick up game. You can deal and I will play. I am guessing I will average about $250 a deck or close to it.

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