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The Air Canada Boeing 767–333 (registration C–GHLQ, serial number 30846) was operating as flight ACA878 from Toronto, Ontario, to Zurich, Switzerland. Approximately halfway across the Atlantic, during the hours of darkness, the aircraft experienced a 46–second pitch excursion. This resulted in an altitude deviation of minus 400 feet to plus 400 feet from the assigned altitude of 35 000 feet above sea level. Fourteen passengers and 2 flight attendants were injured. The seatbelt sign had been selected "on" approximately 40 minutes prior to the pitch excursion. The flight continued to destination whereupon 7 passengers were sent to hospital and were later released.
Over the next minute or so, the captain adjusted the map scale on the ND in order to view the TCAS target 5 and occasionally looked out the forward windscreen to acquire the aircraft visually. The FO initially mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft but the captain advised again that the target was at the 12 o'clock position and 1000 feet below. The captain of ACA878 and the oncoming aircraft crew flashed their landing lights. The FO continued to scan visually for the aircraft. When the FO saw the oncoming aircraft, the FO interpreted its position as being above and descending towards them. The FO reacted to the perceived imminent collision by pushing forward on the control column. The captain, who was monitoring TCAS target on the ND, observed the control column moving forward and the altimeter beginning to show a decrease in altitude. The captain immediately disconnected the autopilot and pulled back on the control column to regain altitude. It was at this time the oncoming aircraft passed beneath ACA878. The TCAS did not produce a traffic or resolution advisory.
Where the first objects disappeared, Captain Terauchi now noticed a pale band of light that mirrored their altitude, speed and direction.[3] Setting their onboard radar scope to a 25 nautical miles (46 km) range, he confirmed an object in the expected 10 o'clock direction at about 7.5 nmi (13.9 km) distance,[4] and informed ATC of its presence. Anchorage found nothing on their radar, but Elmendorf ROCC, directly in his flight path, reported a "surge primary return" after some minutes.[3]
As the city lights of Fairbanks began to illuminate the object, captain Terauchi believed to perceive the outline of a gigantic spaceship on his port side that was "twice the size of an aircraft carrier". It was however outside first officer Tamefuji's field of view.[11] Terauchi immediately requested a change of course to avoid it.[4] The object however followed him "in formation", or in the same relative position throughout the 45 degree turn, a descent from 35,000 to 31,000 ft, and a 360 degree loop.[12] The short-range radar at Fairbanks airport however failed to register the object.
Anchorage ATC offered military intervention, which was declined by the pilot, due to his knowledge of the Mantell incident.[4] The object was not noted by any of two planes which approached JAL 1628 to confirm its presence, by which time JAL 1628 had also lost sight of it. JAL 1628 arrived safely in Anchorage at 18:20.
Originally posted by psyan
Very interesting article. I didn't know we had UFO sighting inside Air Canada, but I'm glad we finally have some in Canada. =P
Originally posted by GhostLancer
A trained and experienced pilot mistakes the planet Venus for another aircraft? Unlikely.
Originally posted by OnTheCustp
reply to post by GhostLancer
I'm a little confused--I looked at the source document and it says the event happened last year. Is that right or am I on crazy pills?
"Aviation Investigation Report
Pitch Excursion
Air Canada
Boeing 767–333, C–GHLQ
North Atlantic Ocean, 55°00'N 029°00'W
14 January 2011"edit on 17-4-2012 by OnTheCustp because: To correct myself
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by psyan
Very interesting article. I didn't know we had UFO sighting inside Air Canada, but I'm glad we finally have some in Canada. =P
For some reason, there seems to be a lot of UFO activity around the Arctic Circle. I find it a little strange that commercial air travel, in fact all kinds of air travel, is banned from getting too close to the Arctic Circle. Maybe it has something to do with compass malfunction, maybe not. Historically, though, I think a few major UFO incidents happened in Canada. Many incidents happened in the US near the Canadian border.
Originally posted by Luckyxfactor
reply to post by GhostLancer
Great feedback. Do you happen to listen to channelers by any chance?
Originally posted by OnTheCustp
reply to post by OnTheCustp
OK nevermind. Wow, this is embarrassing--I was so excited to have found this site and within 10 minutes I incorrectly spelled my username AND overlooked a very important detail about this news story. :-)
CNN and other news sites make it sound like it just happened--NOT that a report was recently released that "explains" what happened 15 months ago. (Right? Oh man maybe I AM losing it).
Originally posted by Pauligirl
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by psyan
Very interesting article. I didn't know we had UFO sighting inside Air Canada, but I'm glad we finally have some in Canada. =P
For some reason, there seems to be a lot of UFO activity around the Arctic Circle. I find it a little strange that commercial air travel, in fact all kinds of air travel, is banned from getting too close to the Arctic Circle. Maybe it has something to do with compass malfunction, maybe not. Historically, though, I think a few major UFO incidents happened in Canada. Many incidents happened in the US near the Canadian border.
I thought the polar route for planes went right through the Arctic circle?
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by GhostLancer
Canadian Airlines discussed the issue. Their trans-Atlantic flights involve only 2 flight crew members. US trans-Atlantic flights require a minimum of 3 flight crew members. The Canadian pilots are only to nap for up to 30 mins specifically to avoid falling into a deep sleep and acting in a manner the Canadian pilot did.
As much as I would like for a UFO to land and greet everyone, I think in this case the issue is exactly as described. How many of us have gone brain dead from a long cross country drive where the land features are the same?
Imagine the same at 35k feet over ocean.....
Originally posted by GhostLancer
A trained and experienced pilot mistakes the planet Venus for another aircraft?
Originally posted by GhostLancer
They are blaming his actions on fatigue, etc. Sounds like a cover story to me. He probably saw one of those gigantic, walnut-shaped UFOs that have been seen in the north Atlantic routes and Arctic routes.
Wikipedia Alaska UFO Incident Entry: en.wikipedia.org...
UFO: A Cover Up No: 3 (Mr. John Callahan)
John Callahan, retired Division Manager, Accidents Evaluation and Investigation, Federal Aviation Administration in Washington, D.C.,was told by the CIA that the UFO case he was evaluating never happened and the general public was never to be informed of the incident.
Originally posted by GhostLancer
No experienced pilot worth his salt mistakens VENUS for an oncoming aircraft.