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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy
The quote you use with the term "any means" is shortened and never includes the word necessary. Perhaps you could post the whole thing?
You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.'.....
You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
You think that the Weathermen didn't study and use Alinsky's methods?
I understand that he didn't believe in adhering strictly to any ideology. What do you think that his IDEA of taking from the 'haves' and giving to the 'have nots' aligns with??? Capitalism? What system does it agree with?
Do tell.
Let me know if the ideas of Marxism have changed, but I'm pretty sure they are all about the workers having the power. having, not having?
You already took the have-nots quote out of context.
Do you have a problem with people rising up against their opressors?
Why do you choose to ignore the FACT that Alinsky said that ethics have no place in removing the power from the haves?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by butcherguy
Why are you ignoring that Evil Bible and the atrocities that have been commited in it's name?
Does that make every Christian an evil person?
This is about Alinsky and Obama. You choose to ignore this.....
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by butcherguy
I'm using the Bible as an example. There are a lot of not so great things in the Bible...but people still read it, study it, and live by it. It doesn't mean they will go around killing gay men like Leviticus says.
Believe it or not, people can read a book and study it and take the good things from it and leave the bad.
But that doesn't fit your argument...you want to vilify Obama because he may have studied Alinsky and you can hack some quotes out of context and try to make it look like Obama subscribes to that.
I can do the exact same thing with the Bible...which is why you are trying to ignore discussing it.
the FACT that Alinsky said that ethics have no place in removing the power from the haves?
Can you show me some proof where Obama has ignored ethics?
IF YOU WANT OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE THEN FOCUS ON ACTUAL CRIMES/VIOLATIONS, not party politics if you REALLY want to change the country.
NDAA
LIBYA
DRONES
SOLYNDRA
CONNECTIONS TO BANKS
You should give up... because you don't get it.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by butcherguy
So you give an example that would go against everything Alinsky was for.
I give up.
All I know is that if this is all Breitbart had on Obama, then as usually he was over hyping his hand.
if the bigger goal is what Alinsky was for.
Hey, is that a thought bouncing around in there? Yes, fighting for the oppressed.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by butcherguy
if the bigger goal is what Alinsky was for.
And what is that bigger goal that Alinsky was for?
To fight for those that are being oppressed?