A Fragment of the Starchild’s FOXP2 Gene is Recovered

reply to post by Atzil321


... couldn't even BOTHER to look at the data and listen to Mr. Pye (edited) before throwing this incorrect assumption out there?

He addresses it very clearly why the starchild skull is NOT hydrocephalic and boarded...

I think it's sad when someone makes up their mind before looking at facts, especially when they throw out a valid-looking alternative.

FAIL.


ETA: changed Dr. Pye to Mr. Pye

reply to post by Thermo Klein


Last time I checked Pye does not possess an MD or a PhD. He has a BS in Psychology from Tulane. I don't know if you simply made a mistake or Pye is actually trying to present himself as a doctor but I figured that it should be made clear.

reply to post by Morg234


Variation in DNA coding? Did you miss the +100 million species all from the same dna source?



There is absolutely no reason to assume alien anything.

reply to post by Xcalibur254


my mistake... thanks.

make that "Mr. Pye"

In that what they say it was not bone skull but fongus or somting ?

Very interesting read, and if 100% undeniable then shouldn't it be on the front page of newspapers and CNN?

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by TheStev

 

Yes, where is the proof? Are you telling me some geneticist proved this skeleton is of extraterrestrial descent, and he didn't want the credit?

Of course he/she would like to come forward... but these people tend to meet a bad end for doing so. They're a threat to gov't entities who've spent their entire lives covering up this type of information... for the sake of Christianity.

reply to post by Gorman91


well what about a panspermia type scenario? maybe the seeds of life, that already existed on the other side of this galaxy, were cast about by super nova why would it be impossible for those same "seeds" to grow in a similarly habitable environment? maybe God created life somewhere else and through the eons it finally wound up here? Maybe there are millions of species with humanoid proportions and similar features. We need to get over our exclusivity mind set.

reply to post by Atzil321


right..... and those babies had fully evolved teeth and normal cranial sutures? the hydrocephally thing is getting stale.

There is more than one reason for the large head other than hydrocephalus. For example the brain could be abnormally large as with Megalencephaly.

Pye states emphatically that the FOXP2 gene is absolutely vital, would be fatal if it was altered, and MUST be preserved no matter what.

Well guess what, here's an article describing two people, mother and child, that have no FOXP2 gene at all because of genetic disease, and are still alive, although suffer disabilities:

peerforum.com...

The choice is between an ET with advanced technology somehow dieing here, being left behind, and only a skull being found. Or a human victim of a genetic disease. Hmmm....

Originally posted by Glassbender777
I saw a show about the StarChild's Skull, and they compared a Human Skull cavity size, with the StarChilds Cavity of its skull, using some sort of materal they poured it into the cavities, and The StarChild could hold much more material inside the cavity of the Skull, I guess it had a Huge brain.

not only did the brain volume surpass human's but the skull's bone is thinner and lighter. Much harder than human bone and chemically different too (not like osteoporosis either, it had high carbon levels). Also along the surface of the inside of the brain case the ridges that keep the brain in place are different from humans.

reply to post by bottleslingguy


Kinda like this baby:
Red haired baby skull

DNA testing also done on those strange skulls btw.

Originally posted by DaMod
This is very exciting to find out the Starchild skull is not human.. Even if it's not extraterrestrial in origin it's still very exciting IMHO.. We may have a new species on our hands.

the mitochondrial dna is of a normal human woman. Stories of human women being impregnated by "star people" are as old as Moses' toes. Virgin birth's are talked about by many cultures too. The skull could have been born on Earth with alien parents who may have been susceptible to some kind of terrestrial bug or maybe had some incompatibility with our atmosphere. it looks like a typical gray alien to me either way. I am amazed how some people aren't intrigued.

I have been following the Starchild story for literally years.

I am cautiously optimistic that we finally have some evidence that shows the skull is not totally human.

I know, however, that this will not end the debate.

Skeptics and debunkers will continue to do what they do.

I am certain that any lab with repute will be very reluctant to associate their name with the results. The extraterrestrial association is already made. No scientist without a large masochistic penchant will get on board, because it will mean the death of their career.

Orthodox science is much like anything orthodox.

They will not change without being dragged, kicking and screaming.

Good for Lloyd Pye, he has really kept his eye on the ball all these years.

Originally posted by sealing
Obviously a lens flare.
(on the genome)

I'm sure it was swamp gas, it has DNA.

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
well what about a panspermia type scenario? maybe the seeds of life, that already existed on the other side of this galaxy, were cast about by super nova why would it be impossible for those same "seeds" to grow in a similarly habitable environment?

Except what you're talking about is another copy of DNA developing on the other side of the galaxy that is very close to human DNA, and then finding it not in a stray meteor, but in a fully developed creature. The odds of that happening are incalculable. So far, we haven't even found another independently developed (created?) strand of non-Earth based DNA, period.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
And once again Pye presents no actual lab report, no name of the facility where the testing was done, and no direct quotes from an actual scientist to verify what he says. I'll wait until someone with a stronger background in genetics takes a look at this as Pye has misunderstood and misrepresented results every step of the way.

Well stated.

reply to post by pianopraze


That is IF the mainstream accepts the results of the skull not being entirely human. Personally I'm skeptical of any tests done by researchers who already are invested in the idea that the skull is real and are banking on that fact.

The argument that it might be a new type of humanoid isn't as far-fetched as aliens. We already have decent evidence that Neanderthals and humans reproduced together so the idea that other hominid species were interbreeding with each other is not that incredible.

Compare that to the claim that

1) Aliens came all the way to the Earth overcoming interstellar space distances
2) The aliens that came here from a completely alien planet, by sheer chance, happened to have evolved to be so similar that they could interbreed with humans

The idea of humans interbreeding with other hominids that weren't quite human is far more plausible. They even say the DNA is "HUMAN-LIKE" in the OPs source.

Originally posted by kingofmd
I don't see what the big deal is, it's just a dead Nephilim. The Bible talks about them existing before and after the flood, sorry to disappoint those that think it is from another planet.

So, who do you think the 'Nephilim' were ?

The bibles states; sons of God mixed with the women of man (huMAN)

Who were the sons of god? If they weren't the children of the women of man(huMAN)?
They can't have been the children of the women of man(huMAN) if the bible states the sons of god mixed with them

If you are going to quote the bible as fact, which means you believe literally in what the bible says, then you have to go a step further -

Who were the sons of God? Oh wait, Later in the bible they are referred to as 'Angels?' So what/who were angels?

The facts are; we don't know if the starkid skull is for real as a new species, or ET, or hybrid from ETs, neither do we know for sure it's just some poor kid with an abnormality - I haven't seen anything convincing on the posts here that proves to me that the kid was just a mutant human.

Thanks to the OP for sharing, I find the whole thing very interesting - Not saying I'm convinced, but I'm open to more on this subject

In Fellowship

TheEmotionalSocialist

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by Thermo Klein

 

Last time I checked Pye does not possess an MD or a PhD. He has a BS in Psychology from Tulane. I don't know if you simply made a mistake or Pye is actually trying to present himself as a doctor but I figured that it should be made clear.

You know misrepresenting a resume is so common these days.

I was on a thread about planet X where this Amy Mainzer astronomer spoke on the subject at a NASA conference about WISE. I went to go check on her credentials. In my search I found there are a bunch of sites all over the net claiming that she is an astrophysicist. She only has a PhD in cosmology and a MS in engineering. On top of that she only attended 4 years at Standford, but a bunch of the same type of sites make it seem like she received her PhD from Stanford. Stanford is an ivy league school of course, the actual school she received her PhD from and masters not being close.

Meanwhile Obama is accused of not even being born in the U.S., and supposedly was a Harvard flunky when the complete opposite is true.


This ole world is really upside down.