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Originally posted by Biliverdin
reply to post by NewAgeMan
No, you see, what most fail to realise is that there is always # that has to be cleared up, whether things are going well or bad, there is always #, and someone has to clear it up. And they do. Either because they get paid handsomely to do so, or because they are forced to, or because with great stoicism they realise that if they dont nobody else will. We don't ever see these people, but they are there. The latter people, they are the ones worthy of our admiration, they are the ones left holding things together when everyone else goes off to celebrate and pat themselves on the back.
I read a book called the Infiltrators, it is about the special branch of Scotland Yard, the writer, explaining how he got into undercover police work, describes how, when working as a 'ambulance' driver for the RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) found himself one christmas with a bucket, a syringe and a basketful of kittens that couldn't be fed. None of the other staff could do it, not without crying and thereby inflicting more suffering on the kittens, he could. These people, though we don't like to acknowledge that they exist, are heroes. They make up for in backbone what the rest of us lack.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by casenately
What is your Hero?
My hero is a 'who'. She's Mary, the mother of Jesus. She lived in hard times and survived. The daily grind back then .. the sickness ... the hunger ... From all accounts she was a good person even in the face of ultimate evil. She was a very young wife. She was a young widow. She raised a child in difficult times. She saw her child murdered in the most cruel manner and yet she didn't lose her mind but continued on.
Not the kind of answer you are looking for I'm sure. But it IS my answer.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by casenately
What is your Hero?
My hero is a 'who'. She's Mary, the mother of Jesus. She lived in hard times and survived. The daily grind back then .. the sickness ... the hunger ... From all accounts she was a good person even in the face of ultimate evil. She was a very young wife. She was a young widow. She raised a child in difficult times. She saw her child murdered in the most cruel manner and yet she didn't lose her mind but continued on.
Not the kind of answer you are looking for I'm sure. But it IS my answer.
"Behold woman ("look mom") I make all things new!"
~ Jesus, while carrying his (our?) cross.
I agree with you wholeheartedly about Mary, provided her heroism is not employed to in any way detract from or demean Jesus' own.
Daniel Inouye was a second-generation Japanese-American living in Honolulu, Hawaii, when the Japanese fighter-bombers started hammering the #ing bejeezus out of the naval base at Pearl Harbor. The seventeen-year-old Inouye had been on his way to church when the # hit the fan, and as Zeroes buzzed over the roof of his house he could clearly see the plumes of smoke from the burning American battleships in the harbor. Inouye was an aspiring physician and taught first aid at the local Red Cross station, so naturally he hauled ass down there and spend the next five sleepless days patching up wounded military personnel. Immediately after his marathon bout of tourniquet application, Inouye went down to enlist in the army and kick the # out of the people who had just dropped bombs on his hometown. Unfortunately, even though this guy was a U.S. citizen, as a person of Japanese descent he was classified 4-C, meaning "Enemy Alien". Undraftable. Unable to serve.
The Enemy. Possibly a Cylon. But Daniel Effin Inouye wasn't going to take that bull# excuse for an answer. This guy was no Enemy Alien – he was an American, and goddamn it he was going to fight. So, even while something like 120,000 Japanese-Americans were being moved to internment camps across the United States, destined to live out the war in government barracks, Inouye kept signing petitions and desperately trying to assist the war effort in any possible capacity. In 1943, when FDR decided, "# it, let's see what these dudes can do" (and I believe that's a direct quote) and ordered the creation of two all-Japanese-American units (the 100th Battalion and the 442nd Regimental Combat Team) Inouye was at the enlistment office the next day. When the recruiter told Danny he couldn't join up because he was employed as an EMT at a government aid station, Inouye went home, quit his job, came right back, and took the oath. Balla #.
Originally posted by Biliverdin
How could Mary's status ever demean Jesus's? You should be careful not to allow your own experiences to cloud your judgement on this one. If that is the case, many of us lack an 'ideal' mother, but Jesus tells us himself, when he gives his mother over to the care of John, whom he loved, and tells him to behold his mother. Who is any child's teacher, if not their mother? For better or worse. What child is not left bereft without a 'good mother'? Mary is mother and teacher to all of us through Jesus. He says as much himself. Look at Jesus, he was born divine perhaps, but nurturing ensured that he held his path. Mary was not chosen for any other reason but because she was worthy and capable of carrying such a burden.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Without Mary's love, and Joseph's, Jesus would not have been Jesus, but that said, who and what he became, wasn't born of the flesh, but of the spirit.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Mary's deification by the RCC is problematic imho. 'nuff said.
Originally posted by Biliverdin
Mary is mother and teacher to all of us through Jesus.
Originally posted by absolutely
Originally posted by Biliverdin
Mary is mother and teacher to all of us through Jesus.
this is an invention of your evil will to use a woman figure for your jesus glorification being a complete god
mary as it is known from everyone didnt have any divine nature, she gave birth to jesus by accident like any young girls do, while she was never a teacher of any kind nor a proper mother of her own flesh
so making her your mother and teacher is obvious lie
but what is sure is that mary was never through jesus when she was first while he died before her
Originally posted by Biliverdin
I don't seek to glorify either, but I do recognise both as my teachers. Neither is my master though.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Biliverdin
and she surely did know much about mystical Judaism ie: her awareness surrounding Jesus' first sign at the Wedding of Canaan and via her sisterhood with Martha mother of John the Baptist (spirit of Elijah).
edit on 23-1-2012 by NewAgeMan because: edit
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by absolutely
always the adversary you are in almost every exchange, absolutely, I think you might want to take a look at that..