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Originally posted by Cesar85
totally agreed. I have felt this way for a long time. can you tell me what mencsh means? I think i know what uber means....
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Anarchy would NOT be good for most people. Know why? I'll give you two big reasons ...
1 - Those who are ill or chronically ill. Anarchy means no medicines. No antibiotics. No insulin. No heart medications. No bloodpressure medications. No way to have operations. Women would die in childbirth. Chronically ill people (like me) would suffer insane pain. A simple tooth infection, that can be taken care of now by a root canal and antibiotics, would kill you if anarchy was going on.
2 - Financial collapse means most people in the USA would be beyond poor. Food production and delivery would stop. Nearly everyone would starve to death. Poor countries that depend on us for food and medicine - like in Africa - would be wiped clean of people. All dead.
Anarchy means MASSIVE numbers of dead.
There are 7 billion people on this planet now.
Almost all would die .. either of starvation, infection, freezing to death, or for lack of medical help.
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by theovermensch
Sorry, that does not sound good at all. In such a world, might makes right. Civilisation would collapse and people would die en masse. Those with bigger fists or guns would do whatever they want. What the hell is good about that?
I am fine with less government intrusiveness, but anarchy as an ideology is completely alien to me.
Text The agricultural part of these villages was composed of peasants, someone understood at the same time peasants and workers. They were founded first of all on equality and solidarity of his members. All, men and women, worked together with a perfect conscience that they should work on fields or that they should be used in housework... Working program was established in meetings where all participated. They knew then exactly what they had to make. —Makhno, Russian Revolution in Ukraine
Text The highest goal of all humanity could be realized through the emancipate all of mankind from the arbitrary rule of others.
Originally posted by METACOMET
Summed up in the broadest sense, History can simply be described as the story of how governments have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race. Obedience and subjection to authority is intrinsically at odds with the way human beings come to live satisfying lives. Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can live in freedom.
That being said, there are legitimate uses for human institutions BUT continuation of faceless bureaucracy's interested only in centralized planning, theft, socialism, dependence, pauperization, inefficiency, greed waste, while at the same time converting the world into a nursery of "for your own good-ers" and "self-serving busybodies" does not parallel with human happiness.
I'm confident that if we simply followed the constitution, and men respected the individual sovereign rights of others, we wouldn't have many of the problems we have today. However, I should add that a lot of "anarchists" are on the right track. The highest goal of all humanity could be realized through the emancipate all of mankind from the arbitrary rule of others.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
We live in pure chaos and anarchy right now, just think about it.
The thing is, most people are so brainwashed and indoctrinated they don't even realize it.
People believe in fantasies like government, society, culture, traditions, etc. But none of these things actually exist, it's all made up in our heads. People act according to their belief systems, and that is why it has an illusion of "order" right now.
Anarchy and chaos are just the natural order of the Universe. "Civilization" is essentially the endless list of delusions and illusions we humans created in order to pretend that things are predictable and reasonable, when they actually are not.
Originally posted by theovermensch
reply to post by METACOMET
Text The highest goal of all humanity could be realized through the emancipate all of mankind from the arbitrary rule of others.
Thats awesome.
Originally posted by theovermensch
The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to, must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it.
There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly.
Is this institution, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man?
I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen.
I heartily accept the motto, "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which I also believe--"that government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that is the kind of government which they will have.
edit on 14-12-2011 by METACOMET because: bld