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Originally posted by 1littlewolf
Originally posted by smithjustinb
There was a singularity of dense energy/mass. The dense singularity was non-porous. All of a sudden it exploded. This was because it allowed something other than mass to penetrate it. The physical singularity of mass allowed itself to be separate from itself. That was an imbalance. It was inconsistent. The space between its now separate parts was what you could call spirit. It was pure life. It was so alive. It was love. It was purity. It was God. That spirit is still with us today. There is no empty space. The space is that.
You say mass is divided by spirit, as if spirit and matter are two distinct things. What divides energy/matter is spacetime. So going by your above statement are you then equating spacetime with spirit and energy/matter as something distinct from that. I don't think that's what you actually meant but this is what i would take away from it if i hadn't read other stuff you'd written.
To me, energy/matter is the spirit is the spirit. Space and time are what causes us on the physical plane to believe it is divided. They are illusory in terms of the Ultimate Truth, but to our consciousnesses as they exist in 3D they are as real as you'll ever get.
Also, assuming what you've said is correct, the question of why the dense singularity allowed spirit to permeate and separate it still stands
The spirit not only caused the explosion, it served as a template for the rearrangement of the mass/energy. The spirit now penetrates nearly every fiber of what is solid. It is responsible for the animation of what you call life that is really inanimate dust possessed by life/spirit trying to behave like life/spirit.
Mass/energy is now in many forms and combinations of forms. The manifestation of these various forms is an attempt to immitate the unfamiliar non-physical spirit. It even systematically arranges itself in ways to imitate the spirit, up to the point where complex life is created with perpetuating organ systems. Those creations can only harbor the spirit for so long until the jig is up and it realizes that the physical can't measure up to the non-physical.
This statement I like and am interested if you could expand on what your notion of 'spirit acted as a template for the arrangement of the physical plane - physical imitates spiritual. I am familiar with the whole emerald tablet/as above so below/holographic universe concept so feel free to get technical...edit on 17/11/2011 by 1littlewolf because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Well, I'm saying spirit and matter are two different things and I am saying that spacetime is spirit. Yes spacetime separates particles, but it also joins them together. Spacetime is the only unified field we know of where one part is the same as any other part (except under gravitational influence caused by mass) and that your space is the same as my space. What we don't know is that spacetime is more than just empty space. It is spirit. Or at least, I think it is. I have no proof to validate my claim though.
As to why the singularity divided and allowed space to permeate; It was probably an accident.
..........All it takes is space in between something like that and then BOOM.
But then, the divided-by-space mass starts arranging itself into "intelligent" patterns. WTF? That is weird. Without the separation of the singularity by spacetime, none of that would have or could have happened. Not only did spacetime allow for the separation of mass from itself, it also allowed for intelligent life.
I don't know how that proves spacetime is the template though. Sorry.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
There is a defined beginning to the way it is now but prior to the Inversion, there was no beginning. So encompassing ALL Time, there is no beginning but only looking at how it is now, there is a beginning.
Ribbit
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Why is the reason that humans are not happy. The question assumes not knowing. There is nothing to know but 'this', this nowness.. Everything else is fabrication, imagination, stories appearing from mind, bought into.
Why has not taken humanity anywhere. Where is there to go when there is only here and now?
There is an assumption that the world has come this far because of humans. Because humans are clever. When we are clever enough we will beable to know why (it is thought, believed).
The 'why' is the separation.
The answer is. It is already.
This is it.
If we are completely honest we don't know. We don't know anything about anything. We guess, assume and predict. We narrate what has already happened. But we don't know how anything is happening or 'why'.
The human condition is to make meaning, a meaning making machine.
But there is no meaning and even if there was, what does meaning mean?
We 'try' to make sense out of everything. But sense (sensation) is present already. The human way of making sense is to intellectulize. As soon as the intellect is involved it is no longer sense. Sensation occurs presently, instantly and intimately.
The 'trying' to 'make' sense is a step away from sensation. However, intellect (mind, which is really only one thought at a time appearing presently) is also just a sensation appearing presently.
Be present with what is present consciously. Direct experience will show you all there is to know.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Nobody knows why the dreamer started to dream, it's what the dreamer does.
Why is such a crazy question. Why is the reason you believe you exist. Without why there would be no you, there would be just 'this'.
Why is the cause of the you as a separate individual. Why is the ego. If you had never said why then you would be in acceptance of 'this life'. It would be just the way it is but without the fear, without the confusion.
It is what it is and it ain't what it ain't.
But why?
Then the stories start to appear, stories about why. We don't know why but we make something up, something creative, but not true.
edit on 19-11-2011 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)