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Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by NorEaster
The image of God is what appears to be happening.
The image is seen. There is seeing and knowing of.
Then 'logic' tries to understand, the understanding is seeking.
The truth does not need to be understood, it just is.
When the seeking ends, the truth is all that is left.
Yeah........uh....no
Y'see, this is just the kind of non-proof that you seem enamored with. You even present it in stanzas. How the hell can anyone take what you assert seriously? Faith is great and all, but faith is what enables both suicide bombers and saints to do what it is that they do. Faith is worthless when it comes to determining the truth about anything. After all, faith demands that you believe and firmly embrace the unbelievable. For a researcher, that's exactly what's not supposed to guide his/her steps.
I wouldn't be able to embrace an ism that demands that I reject any understanding of what it is that I've been instructed to embrace. The concept just seems inherently dangerous.
Originally posted by NorEaster
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
The article lists the author's email. Go bitch at him. Besides, each physicist team is searching for very different things, so I would imagine that the quoted individual was referring to what's been found within the specific realm of study that they've been engaged in.
But go ahead and post whatever you like. The Internets are free.
Originally posted by NorEaster
reply to post by IblisLucifer
Dude, not one bit of that made any sense at all.
It was like you tossed a scrabble game down the stairs, over and over, and built the post off the wreckage.
I'm sorry, but nothing that exists as dependable and consistent relates at all to what (I think) you said. Then again, I don't really know what you said. What I do know is this....
People have been building castles for thousands of years, and some of them are pretty impressive. Some, not so much. If a castle isn't constructed of the same general stuff as the terrain around it, then hopefully it's better stuff, and stuff that's stronger. If the structure of the castle makes absolutely no sense with the elemental structure of the world that contains it, or with its clear role - as a fortress - within that world, then the problems are serious and - to the outside viewer - end up being really obvious.
Your castle, here - with its bizarre number combinations that reveal nothing and prove even less - makes no sense with what surrounds you, contains you, embraces you, and physically defines you. Your mind seeks a level of authority based on convoluted semantics and word play, and while there's nothing inherently wrong in having that as your goal, in the end, what have you actually done to serve yourself or anyone else? I don't know. Toad does that stuff too, and so do a few others that knock around here. It's become their knee-jerk response to all topics and comments.
Riddles and word gymnastics don't explain anything. All they do is create an artificial divide between the riddler and everyone else. Maybe that's the point, but if it is, then no one's learning anything of value.
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
Anybody else find it strange that supposed true 'scientists' are believing in more and more 'theoretical' matter and objects as time goes by? And yet those who are supposed true 'scientists' mock those who believe in God or one of his other names? Belief that the Higgs Boson particle, or dark matter, or dark energy exist; or belief in God or Allah or whatever exists? What's the difference?edit on 11/3/11 by Ferris.Bueller.II because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
So, I'm wondering, how does your theory explain where all the anti-matter went?
In my theory I've already explained, kNot where it went, but where it always is, so since your theory has no fundamental physical science to it, how can anyone believe it? I realize religion expects peeps to have blind faith so is that your philosophy as well, when it comes to your theory?
Ribbit
Originally posted by IblisLucifer
reply to post by NorEaster
The Law of Gender
states that the masculine and feminine principles are manifested in everything. Every being in this world contains a male and female aspect even if the physical body only shows one or the other. However, the principle is not only related to sex.
Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes.”
Law of Cause and Effect
“Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause; everything happens according to Law; Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law.”
Law of Rhythm
“Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates.”
Law of Polarity
“Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.”
The Law of Vibration
“Nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates.”The Law of Vibration states that everything in the Universe “vibrates” and, therefore, moves. Without vibration, there is no movement; without movement, there is no life and no Universe. The differences in the manifestations of matter, energy, mind, and spirit are largely the result of the varying rates of vibration.
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
So, I'm wondering, how does your theory explain where all the anti-matter went?
In my theory I've already explained, kNot where it went, but where it always is, so since your theory has no fundamental physical science to it, how can anyone believe it? I realize religion expects peeps to have blind faith so is that your philosophy as well, when it comes to your theory?
Ribbit
You could simply read it all for yourself. I'm not preventing you from doing so. My theory is very detailed, and my thoughts about faith-based assertions like "antimatter" as well as similar inventions like angels and demons, are fairly well laid out. You don't have to read it, but if you don't, then don't bother pestering me with demands to spoon feed you. I don't even know you, so why would I care if you knew anything at all about what I've discovered? I'm not your personal Jesus, and therefore I have no "mission" to educate you.
I've been very candid about what I believe material existence to actually be. Figure it out for yourself, and if you can't, then so what. Maybe you and your bag of riffs will do just fine in the "hereafter"? Maybe you can make the whole damn realm sit up and bark for you? Maybe they have a better sense of humor over there than I have over here right now?
Y'know, I wish that you "reality is a human construct" types could be right about what you claim. I have a pinched nerve that's been making my neck and upper back area scream since Thursday evening. I'm on all kinds of pain medication, and not a bit of it is touching the pain at all. I'd love it if I really did have the power to shut it down as an illusion, but the reality of this thing is that it hurts like hell, and the dope isn't helping at all.
It's stuff like this pain that really lets a person know that the physical realm is real and that philosophy is often just playing around with ideas that are presented in an inventive manner that is too vague and subjective for anyone to properly debunk. Doesn't make any of that stuff true, or even plausible, but the convoluted nature of it can sometimes allow it to persist. This pain, on the other hand, has been detected and documented on an MRI machine, so I know it exists. It also has a source that has been determined by way of decades of research into what causes blinding pain in the documented areas of the neck and upper back. My own lack of response to the medication has also been noted in other patients, and is not a mystery. In fact, nothing within this sphere of examination is clashing with what's already been established and replicated time and time again.
I don't deal in magical thinking, and I don't embrace others' attempts to establish such magical thinking as concrete reality. No one has ever isolated antimatter. All they'd done is noticed an impact on what's known by something that is unknown. From there, they refused to reexamine their initial conclusions, instead they invented a totally new form of physical existence to keep from having to reexamine that initial conclusion. Now they have an entire army of dark forces, dark matters, dark energies, and not a shred of real evidence, other than the need for these things to exist if their original conclusions are to survive.
To me, that sounds suspiciously like faith-based thinking, and I absolutely reject faith-based thinking.
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
I have repeatedly stated that out of the three dimensions of Reality, Conceptual, Perceptual, and Physical, the Physical is the only one that is REAL. It's the other two that are an illusion but as to your pain, it's all in your head for the brain interprets the signals from your nerves to then tell you, via physical reactions, that you are in pain. I wish I could help you to shut out the pain, but I dont kNow how but I dew kNow it's possible.
I hope you get better.
Ribbit
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
I have repeatedly stated that out of the three dimensions of Reality, Conceptual, Perceptual, and Physical, the Physical is the only one that is REAL. It's the other two that are an illusion but as to your pain, it's all in your head for the brain interprets the signals from your nerves to then tell you, via physical reactions, that you are in pain. I wish I could help you to shut out the pain, but I dont kNow how but I dew kNow it's possible.
I hope you get better.
Ribbit
Quick answer again...
There is a well established symbiotic relationship between what traditional science has decided to be material and environmental residual information. The net impact of that relationship is what we refer to as natural law. The thing is that this net impact is more pervasive than traditional wisdom seems willing to be aware of, and all these "anti" and "dark" materials are much more likely to be akin to these natural laws (in the true nature of what causes them to exist) than traditional science has been willing to even consider.
This impact (the physical influence that information has on "material") is primordial - much more foundational than anything else that exists. We just haven't gotten around to realizing the breadth of ways that this influence can be noticed by an observer.
Oh...and I'm checking myself into the VA hospital this morning. Their meds haven't touched this thing, and now it's getting extremely sharp. I'm not so sure that I know why, and I don't want to take stupid chances right now.
Have a good week.edit on 11/7/2011 by NorEaster because: I'm effed up on pain meds - well except for the part where the pain is relieved