I am the 1%

Disregard all the snide comments about your numbers in the OP...

What is in a number anyway right?

IMO you are the true 1% as you seem fitted to your own individuality and care little about others opinions of you and your life.

I respect your OP.

*( The Occupiers have the numbers wrong as well...*)

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Sci-Fi_entist

 

I am failing to see where any of the greedy capitalists have broken any laws and who exactly and what crimes did they commit.

Heh, don't know what you're on about, but these cats break the law all the time...

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Madoff pleaded guilty to charges including fraud, perjury and money-laundering.

newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com...

One-time hedge fund tycoon Raj Rajaratnam may get the longest prison sentence to date for insider trading, sending a harsh warning to anyone else who considers becoming a master of trading on confidential information.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

A former investment manager known as Wall Street's "bad boy" was convicted Tuesday of defrauding U.S. and European investors of $140 million, promising them rich returns while blowing their money on a lifestyle that included private jets, home renovations, prostitutes, strippers and classy London hotels.

www.theglobeandmail.com...

Zvi Goffer. A stock trader dubbed the Octopussy because he reached for so much inside information was sentenced Wednesday to 10 years in prison by a judge who said a harsh punishment was necessary because insider trading is so difficult to detect.

The 34-year-old Mr. Goffer told the judge in a pre-sentencing letter that he now realizes he had warped perceptions of “survival of the fittest.” He said “everyone is doing it” is not a good excuse for doing wrong. Mr. Goffer was among more than two dozen people convicted in what prosecutors called the biggest hedge fund insider trading case in history.

But they don't necessarily have to break the laws. All they have to do is get them changed. Mold legislation to suit their needs, which, interestingly enough... are not your needs.
www.helium.com...

lobbyists often sway legislative decisions away from what benefits the average citizen, to what benefits the large corporations for whom they are lobbying.

Food for thought, guy...

reply to post by Sci-Fi_entist


Well I am not going to stand here and defend criminals, in America we have a justice system for that.

But while we are on the subject, Bernie Madoff was a contributor of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

en.wikipedia.org...

Madoff was a prominent philanthropist,[19][110] who served on boards of nonprofit institutions—many of which entrusted his firm with their endowments.[19][110] The collapse and freeze of his personal assets and those of his firm affected businesses, charities, and foundations around the world, including the Chais Family Foundation,[130] the Robert I. Lappin Charitable Foundation, the Picower Foundation, and the JEHT Foundation which were forced to close.[19][131] Madoff donated approximately $6 million to lymphoma research after his son Andrew was diagnosed with the disease.[132] He and his wife gave over $230,000 to political causes since 1991, with the bulk going to the Democratic Party.[133]

Raj Rajaratnam is not even an American and furthermore another huge donor to the Obama Administration.
en.wikipedia.org...

According to the Federal Election Commission, Rajaratnam has made over $118,000 in political contributions in the past five years.[18] He has also contributed to the Democratic National Committee and various campaigns on behalf of Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Charles Schumer, and Robert Menendez.[18]

So it seems that these corrupt wall street brokers are pulling for the same team as the so called 99% movement.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


No the 1% is the rich elite?
Why do people put down a movement that is the truth. The fact is 99% of us are poweless and are not wealthy. People need to be enlightened about what this movement is about. It is about true democracy and economic equality for all!

reply to post by thehoneycomb

It doesn't matter to me whether they're Democrat or Republican, Socialist or Communist. For Obama, or against. What matters is who is manipulating who. Too me, there is no difference. If you move forward with plans that harm anyone, then those are plans ill prepared.
You continually defend individuals who would never in a million years defend you. You align yourself with those who desire only the subjugation of humanity as a species. They think they are better. They are not. We are all only separated by our experiences. Any separation other than that is illusory...

Three Things:
1. That isn't what they mean by 1%.
2. And what are the other 99%? Losers?
3. This movement isn't about hating the rich because they're successful, it's about crony capitalism.

That being said, I think the 99% slogan is stupid for the most part, but your attempt to turn it around really isn't much better.

Isn't Oprah one of the richest people in the world? She didn't start out that rich. What about Bill Gates? I'm really asking, not being sarcastic.

the current system is not american. The fed is against the constitution. They keep devaluating our dollar and they keep passing on too big to fail debt on us. we have been sold off to off shore banks. we keep involving ourselves in globalism. Our president participates with the UN. these are all anti american.

I am not for the current system of predatorial capitalism and globalism.
I am also not for socialism and handouts.

I am the 1% because of my spirit.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by newcovenant

 

So are you implying that the 1% that you are fighting against are the uber wealthy that use their money to influence the rest of the world like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds for instance?

I think what I am fighting for is liberty from a 2 party system where in there is only the illusion of democracy. Our constitution makes it very clear the people may dissolve any system that does not favor them and honor their wishes EXCLUSIVE to any other agenda be that of the wealthy, the lobbyists, politicians judges or corporations. An individual American has as much right as any one or group of them and people are fighting to retain at least those privileges amongst all those other competing groups.

We the people should have no "entities" in competition for our rights.
It is against the Constitution.


What it appears we have, by hook or by crook is a 2 class system not a 2 party system and I think these people are trying to re-shuffle a deck decidedly and deliberately stacked against them.

Who to target?
Well let's eliminate who we can....start with all the people WITHOUT the money.
And "philanthropists" like Koch Bros only have right to rule the wold in James Bond movies. Not something we should aspire to in real life. Especially when our Constitution is designed to forbid it and reject it via the first amendment any attempt to usurp on those rights of the collective, the people.

Originally posted by cry93
I am the 1% because of my spirit.

Would your spirit be willing to front me some cash for operating expenses?
I have a great enterprise that will net us a tidy Caribbean retirement defrauding the public out of cash for something that is basically worthless. You in?

This whole 1% thing is for morons.

That's over 3 million in the US, and nearly 70 million worldwide.

You think they have all the wealth... really??



The corrupt bastards holding the vast majority of wealth are much more concentrated than that.

This is a ploy by the elite to have us fight each other.

Class warfare.

Have the lower classes fight the rich, while the elite laugh their asses off and continue to loot.

Once society collapses, they're already out of this country and in a safe haven.

The cycle repeats elsewhere.come on, fools. Are you really buying into this con?!

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Oh, sure. You are being undermined by a movement that wants to correct a growing inequality between the power held by "We the People" and the power held by the triumvirate of Wall Street, Pet Political tools, and The Fed. The game is rigged. The elite represented by that unholy trinity have systematically stolen the wealth of a nation, and you are concerned that it might look like class warfare to try and take some of it back.

Guess what? I don't owe you anything either.

I am glad OP posted this thread. This thread is exactly what it is intended to be.

This thread clearly spells out how foolish the sheep are in this country. OP states he is poor, but he represents the people who are contributing to his poverty.

Sure he is patriotic...big deal
Sure he believes in his neighbor and community...big deal

But he is not the 1% (at least not the 1% that is fueling the OWS, by their sinister actions against the majority)

What I will never figure out is the stupidity of the people in this country who are raped by the elites and still blindly, foolishly, and ignorantly support them. The true 1% get together and laugh at the idiots who claim to support them.

Free Range cattle is what the OP is, Free Range Cattle is what the OP supports...He is confusing that he disagrees with the drum beaters....and too blind to see he is a rape victim.

Cant argue with OP...he will continue to sit in his trailer, with his hand gun, and support the elites who care not for him as a human, but as just a line item on a spreradsheet as a unit of revenue measure. he is probably a Veteran and has been screwed by them as well, but believes in 3 jobs, hard work, big taxes, and turning the other cheek, just as programmed. He also probably believes its his fault he is poor, but still supports the American Dream. Weird...

I wish people would think.

reply to post by MentalGiant


Actually you are missing the point completely.

The only 1% that are raping the poor in the country is the radical left and the labor unions.

Guess what, I can't find work because I am not a member of a labor union, but I refuse to stoop to that level.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by MentalGiant

 

Actually you are missing the point completely.

The only 1% that are raping the poor in the country is the radical left and the labor unions.

Guess what, I can't find work because I am not a member of a labor union, but I refuse to stoop to that level.

Ok So you just openly admitted that you can find work, but the work is not "good enough" for you. You openly admitted that work is available and you "choose" to remain unemployed.

YOU ARE DEFINATELY NOT THE 1%. You are more like the ghetto, hood rats that choose to remain unemployed due to entitlement thinking. You openly admit that you choose unemployment instead of doing what is right for your family.

Nothing inn your original post is the truth. You just posted BS of your idealism, and not your reality....You are exactly as i predicted, someone clinging to a fantasy that you are not hurting, or being hurt....WOW....Good luck out there. I cannot reason with that logic....

BTW....I live in the South too....and I created my job, and earn a great living from home because I work....

reply to post by MentalGiant


No see your reading comprehension skills are lacking. I stated in my OP that I am employed. I also stated that I am underemployed. I do work and I have found work however not in my field which I have a college education and diploma. That field is within the media.

Now who controls the media? The government right?

Ok who controls the media, the socialist democratic left, who also controls the labor unions, who also control the media, well most of it anyways. The simple problem is in my field that there are not enough jobs that aren't controlled and hijacked by the radical lefts labor unions. Yes I do work in my field, but mostly it is work that I find on my own.

I do not live in a trailer. I do live in the south, I am not sure why you assumed that I did but you are correct. I do not collect unemployment or welfare, but again you should know that already, I stated that in my opening post.

reply to post by newcovenant


Here's your one party system. I think this is what it might look like.

en.wikipedia.org...

A single-party state, one-party system or single-party system is a type of party system government in which a single political party forms the government and no other parties are permitted to run candidates for election. Sometimes the term de facto single-party state is used to describe a dominant-party system where laws or practices prevent the opposition from legally getting power.

Some single party states only outlaw opposition parties, while allowing subordinate allied parties to exist as part of a permanent coalition such as a popular front. Within their own countries, dominant parties ruling over single-party states are often referred to simply as the Party. For example, in reference to the Soviet Union, the Party meant the Communist Party of the Soviet Union; in reference to the former People's Republic of Poland it referred to the Polish United Workers' Party.
Some one-party states may allow non-party members to run for legislative seats, as was the case with Taiwan's Tangwai movement in the 1970s and 1980s. Other single-party states may allow limited participation by approved minor parties, such as the People's Republic of China under the United Front, or the National Front in former East Germany.
Most single-party states have been ruled either by parties following Leninism, or by parties following some type of nationalist or fascist ideology, or parties that came to power in the wake of independence from colonial rule. One-party systems often arise from decolonization because one party has had an overwhelmingly dominant role in liberation or in independence struggles. Not all authoritarian states and dictatorships operate based on single-party rule. Some, especially absolute monarchies and certain military dictatorships, have made all political parties illegal.
Where the ruling party subscribes to a form of Marxism-Leninism, the one-party state system is usually called a communist state, though such states do not use that term to describe themselves, adopting instead the title of people's republic, socialist republic or democratic republic. One peculiar example is Cuba, where the role of the Communist Party is enshrined in the constitution, and no party is permitted to campaign or run candidates for election, including the Communist party. Candidates are elected on an individual referendum basis without formal party involvement, though elected assemblies predominantly consist of members of the dominant party alongside non-affiliated candidates.[1]

Yep. But you probably already knew that. Straight out of the Karl Marx playbook.

Let's see here's your one party system, today.

....continued...

reply to post by newcovenant


socialistparty-usa.org...

Free and Fair Elections
The Socialist Party stands for political activity independent of the two major corporate parties. We view electoral activity as an important component of the struggle for fundamental social change. Participation as socialists in local, state, and national elections is a valuable way to clarify our position on a wide range of issues, of broadly disseminating our principles and programs, and of asserting and reaffirming our commitment to the democratic process. We believe that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with democracy and that true democracy can only be achieved with society’s transformation to socialism.
We support the public financing of candidates for public office as long as this funding extends to the candidates of alternative political parties.
We call for strict limits on the use of personal funds in elections, either for one's own campaign or for that of another candidate.
We oppose representation based on anything other than population.
We support the introduction of proportional representation at every level of government.
We call for uniform ballot access laws for all states that give all political parties a chance to have their candidates on the ballot.
We call for the closing of the loophole sanctioned by the Supreme Court which allows candidates to spend an unlimited sum of their personal wealth on their own campaigns.
We call for the elimination of the Electoral College and support instant run-off voting of all elected officials.
We stand opposed to the disenfranchising of any U.S. citizen by the federal, state, or local government.
We demand greater access to media for all political parties and free, equal access to all forms of mass media for all candidates
We call for full representation for the U.S. territories of Guam and Puerto Rico, all Native American reservations, and the District of Columbia.
We call for the restoration of the right to vote for all citizens incarcerated in jails and prisons
We call for a mandatory paper trail of all votes to allow for recounts and verification.

Legal Justice
The Socialist Party recognizes the right of all people to equal treatment under the law, and to a humane criminal sanction system based on prevention, mediation, restitution, and rehabilitation rather than on vengeance, forced labor, and profits for the prison-industrial complex.
We call for free, quality, legal and court services with skilled and experienced attorneys of choice for all.
We call for prosecution of the criminal activities of politicians, corporate managers, and other privileged individuals, rather than the over-emphasis on minor infractions by working class people and for a sliding scale of fines based on income
We call for the expansion of community release programs and other alternatives to prisons, and for a moratorium on new prison construction.
We call for support services for prisoners and prisoners' families to reduce ostracism, maintain family ties, and provide for non-degrading visitation policies.
We call for the immediate closure of all “Supermax” prisons and abolition of “prisons for profit”.
We call for the abolition of prison labor for profit, forced labor (“chain gangs”) and the use of prison labor to perform state services.
We call for the right of prisoners to organize unions and cooperative groups to negotiate for better living conditions
[h1]We call for the immediate establishment of completely independent and democratically elected police control and oversight councils, with full power to fire police and to arrest, detain, and indict police officers who brutalize or abuse people or who commit any violation of laws or civil rights and liberties.[/h1]
We call for the ultimate replacement of the police with community residents trained in conflict resolution who live in and serve the community under community control.
We call for community response services for crime victims, including the establishment of crisis centers and shelters for victims of domestic violence, spousal and child abuse, and rape and incest.
We support federal buyout programs for arms, federal safety standards and licensing for arms, and community-based public training for gun owners.
We call for the decriminalization of drug use and the regulation of narcotics by doctors through the use of prescriptions rather than by the criminal justice system.
We call for the redirection of funds spent on the "war on drugs" to comprehensive community-based, client-controlled rehabilitation programs.
We call for the abolition of the death penalty.

Well I think You get the point. Is it ok to call you a socialist now, or would you prefer to be called a communist?

reply to post by newcovenant

I think what I am fighting for is liberty from a 2 party system where in there is only the illusion of democracy. Our constitution makes it very clear the people may dissolve any system that does not favor them and honor their wishes EXCLUSIVE to any other agenda be that of the wealthy, the lobbyists, politicians judges or corporations. An individual American has as much right as any one or group of them and people are fighting to retain at least those privileges amongst all those other competing groups.

We live in a constitutional republic. We already have Liberty.

What you want is called Democratic Socialism. What you want is Tyranny.
"Show me what democracy looks like, This is what democracy looks like."

EDIT TO ADD:

OWNED!