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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
This is my country. My home. I would prefer to fix it if possible. Leaving would be a last resort. If the US dies, where do you go? Seriously. I have been to many countries, and none match the US. Even now, in our fallen state, we are still a better place to live that most of the world.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
do like i do, i plan to retire in another country that isn't as screwed up.
Originally posted by The Old American
I have some bad news for you: there's already a precedent to not have to pay us.
With Flemming v. Nestor, SS was found to be a simple tax. The fact that SS was "sold" to the American public as a savings fund or an insurance (thus the "contribution" and "benefit" nomenclature) does not set a legal precedent for whether or not we are guaranteed payments from the system.
Even the wording on SSA.gov indicates this:
There has been a temptation throughout the program's history for some people to suppose that their FICA payroll taxes entitle them to a benefit in a legal, contractual sense. That is to say, if a person makes FICA contributions over a number of years, Congress cannot, according to this reasoning, change the rules in such a way that deprives a contributor of a promised future benefit. Under this reasoning, benefits under Social Security could probably only be increased, never decreased, if the Act could be amended at all. Congress clearly had no such limitation in mind when crafting the law. Section 1104 of the 1935 Act, entitled "RESERVATION OF POWER," specifically said: "The right to alter, amend, or repeal any provision of this Act is hereby reserved to the Congress." Even so, some have thought that this reservation was in some way unconstitutional. This is the issue finally settled by Flemming v. Nestor.
While I agree with your sentiment, as I believe the whole thing should be scrapped, your class action suit would fail before it started unfortunately.
/TOA
Originally posted by petrus4
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
This is my country. My home. I would prefer to fix it if possible. Leaving would be a last resort. If the US dies, where do you go? Seriously. I have been to many countries, and none match the US. Even now, in our fallen state, we are still a better place to live that most of the world.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
do like i do, i plan to retire in another country that isn't as screwed up.
I can only assume you haven't been to Australia.
Seriously.
Originally posted by ntzeret
reply to post by Verumnocet
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This form at was used for credit cards and A one person... In the same way shrewd lawyers will screw someone of of something if a ' is in the wrong place
www.scribd.com...
this is the link to the references to the ALL CAPITAL LEGAL FICTION is , and I will try to dig out the vid i found that gave the information in that letter... it needs to be tweaked
Basically it all has to do with Admiralty jurisdiction.. maritime laws set forth during the East India Trading Co times.. You were born form your mothers waters.. traveled down a canal, birthed.. docketed ( by the doctor) some of you were christened..( like a boat lmao =( ) check out your birth certificate and ask yourself why your mother is listed as informant.. your a commodity owned by England... What we need to be is sovereign and declare ourselves States within the STATES again and be recognized as Flesh and Blood individuals... Flesh and Blood individuals have rights.. entities such as ALL CAPITAL LETTER LEGAL FICTIONS ... do not....So .. that is what the Agent for the All Capital legal fiction means... in the space someone would actually sign their real flesh and blood name in the correct proper noun spelling signed in cursive... and not enjoin themselves to it.. its the difference between being the ALL CAPITAL LETTER LEGAL FICTION and owning it.. therefore creating a "magic" barrier you should sign the back of your credit cards that way as the "Authorized agent for the all capital letter legal fiction JON DOE TM" and trade mark it... that way you don't enjoin yourself to it and its your buffer..
so.... who wants to clobber the banks....
as if this information helps the OP in anyway... I'm sure it could be changed and tweaked in a way to overcome the grammar issues present with still applying to a singular person within the context of a group of people... hell.. have them make you swear on a bible.. then ask why in Deuteronomy Chapter 15 it says that every seven years to CANCEL ALL DEBTS. so why are we still owed this debt when the book the courts make me swear upon specifically states the We are not to hold debts past 7 years.. these debts are way older than 7 years... you need to be a smartass with these people when you buts on the line.. ( 30 year Mortgage)
It even goes to say to not be a mean tightwad on the 6th year with holding money to be given out to avoid losing your money because the next year the debt will be canceled.. treat everyone as your brothers and your sisters... would you kick your mother out of her home... if you saw your sister on the street having sex for money.. would you take her back in... (and hunt down her pimp) WAR We Are Right.... in all the thousands of years on this planet.. all the souls that came and went .. thought they were right.. they thought they were nice.. Everyone thinks that they are the good guys... even as the enemy prepares his thoughts for his fight.. he prays to the same god you do.. at least in his mind,he has been taught errors.. in the same way you have You all got it wrong... but there is still time and a chance for change..... It has been said to love your enemies... the enemy is not who you think it is.. but the bankers making money off of you killing each other... Nikolaitans Nike greek for Victory, War.. that kind of idea.. Laity .. common people Nikolaitians is a Greek compound word for War Monger.. the bankers.. and THEY are on gods # list...
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