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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Astyanax
Decent people, on the other hand, don’t need an Ogre in Heaven to keep them good and honest
Did you expwect me to take this seriously ?
I will say that I think atheists have both as much a requirement for, and a right to, love and acceptance as anyone else. I will also say that I think I've unfairly and inappropriately generalised about what atheism is, in the past; it can mean a whole lot of things
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by bogomil
Just thought of something here Bog. Run it by you if I may? Would you consider this to be accurate?
Disbelief - neg.
Belief - pos.
Originally posted by bogomil
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by bogomil
Just thought of something here Bog. Run it by you if I may? Would you consider this to be accurate?
Disbelief - neg.
Belief - pos.
No, not accurate. You forgot to mention the reference-point(s) to neg. and pos. (whoever they are).
Originally posted by randyvs
Originally posted by bogomil
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by bogomil
Just thought of something here Bog. Run it by you if I may? Would you consider this to be accurate?
Disbelief - neg.
Belief - pos.
No, not accurate. You forgot to mention the reference-point(s) to neg. and pos. (whoever they are).
Oh, well of course I did. Reference Websters.
Belief-
Confidence in the truth, existence, reliability of something not immediatly suseptible to rigorous proof.
I think that sounds positive.
Disbelief=
The inability or refusal to believe or accept something as true. To have no belief.
Negative, wouldn't you agree ?
Originally posted by randyvs
Originally posted by bogomil
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by bogomil
Just thought of something here Bog. Run it by you if I may? Would you consider this to be accurate?
Disbelief - neg.
Belief - pos.
No, not accurate. You forgot to mention the reference-point(s) to neg. and pos. (whoever they are).
Oh, well of course I did. Reference Websters.
Belief-
Confidence in the truth, existence, reliability of something not immediatly suseptible to rigorous proof.
I think that sounds positive.
Disbelief=
The inability or refusal to believe or accept something as true. To have no belief.
Negative, wouldn't you agree ?
They why not ?
Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by randyvs
Quit trying to be a slippery politician and answer a simple question for once randyvs. Yes or no ?
and if no - then why not?
Originally posted by Annee
When the mods stated not to deride religious threads - - does that include Atheist threads?
Did you expect me to take this seriously?
Originally posted by gentledissident
Originally posted by Annee
When the mods stated not to deride religious threads - - does that include Atheist threads?
Atheism is not a religion.
This is randyvs "atheism isn't right" thread. He's doing a good job of keeping up the theme no matter how ironic.
Originally posted by gentledissident
Originally posted by Annee
When the mods stated not to deride religious threads - - does that include Atheist threads?
Atheism is not a religion.
This is randyvs "atheism isn't right" thread. He's doing a good job of keeping up the theme no matter how ironic.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Annee
Atheist simply means lack of a belief in a deity. It doesn't mean anything else.
Hardly surprising that believers should insist that atheism is a belief. They probably can’t see things any other way. If they could, they might cease to be believers.
I say, let the faith-heads call us believers in something if it makes them happy. For all of that, we unbelievers
- look to no comforting fairytales to calm our night-fears,
- pray for no miracles to cure what ails us,
- take responsibility for our own choices,
- do not look to Higher Powers to get us out of trouble, and
- don’t tell ourselves lies about the hereafter to excuse our failures and ease our fears of death.
In short, if atheism is a belief, it is one that provides its believers with none of the consolations of religion.
Instead, it obliges us to face life with courage, dignity and responsibility – knowing it is short, knowing it is painful, knowing that we are mere animals, and knowing, in the end, that the only meaning we take out of life is whatever meaning we bring to it in the first place.
If that is a belief, call me a believer, and I will wear the badge with pride.