Anonymous Unleashes Social Network AnonPlus

Anonymous Unleashes Social Network AnonPlus

www.wired.co.uk

Following a ban from Google+, web hacktivist clan Anonymous has said it will build its own social network -- one that won't tolerate "being shut down, censored or oppressed."

Right now, AnonPlus.com is simply a holding page to declare the group's lawless intentions and plans to beat "tyranny". "Soon the actual site will go up and you can begin to interact with it," the site reads. It also says that AnonPlus is "for all people, not just anonymous."

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Very interesting, and some here may even find this suspicious. A site for subversives to gather and incriminate themselves, or liberating collective voice that can change the world? Trust has gone out the window for me, so I am not sure what to think. I will probably not sign up any time soon, but thought this was interesting.
The 'authorless' author claims the site won't be controlled by outside(gov) forces. Wonder how that can be? Right now the page is available with the claim, but I just don't know what to think, salvation or a convenient round up of dissidents.
This reminds me of a common theme in futuristic sci-fi's, where there is a voice, signal/broadcast that is the only truth and voice left representing the people, cutting in through normal broadcasts and maintaining a tit for tat battle with authorities seeking/maintaining control over the masses.

spec

www.wired.co.uk
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The site:
AnonPlus

I mean it sounds cool if the intention was pure - if you are worried about it being a honeypot so to speak, you can take measures before you use the site so you can't be tracked.

Combination of VPN/Tor/Proxy as well as fake information when signing up.

reply to post by speculativeoptimist

Right now the page is available with the claim, but I just don't know what to think, salvation or a convenient round up of dissidents.

Good point for sure...

In this backwards world we live in, it is so hard to tell good from evil anymore... I would lean towards it being for good more than evil...

Only time will tell... But I will definitely be keeping tabs on this...

The way I look at it... If we all stand up, how can TPTB control us? Imagine if within 2 months AnonPlus has 250 million users? What the hell are they gonna do then? Track each person down and round them up?

Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
This reminds me of a common theme in futuristic sci-fi's, where there is a voice, signal/broadcast that is the only truth and voice left representing the people, cutting in through normal broadcasts and maintaining a tit for tat battle with authorities seeking/maintaining control over the masses.

spec

www.wired.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

The site:
AnonPlus

edit on 18-7-2011 by speculativeoptimist because: (no reason given)

Sounds just like a movie plot, maybe the movies conditioned us to think in just this manner. THe script is parallel to the Wikihype.

double, sorry

I see this as a clear sign the "leaderless" "movement" is fracturing into multiple subsets or factions. How many sites does such a "movement" need?

what a great way of social engineering a ton of personal information. no thank you

Sounds more like a 'stand up be counted' maneuver.... "We got ya now"... I don't trust it, anyone got a server location on that?

The way I look at it... If we all stand up, how can TPTB control us? Imagine if within 2 months AnonPlus has 250 million users? What the hell are they gonna do then? Track each person down and round them up?

That's EXACTLY the purpose of that operation... IMHO

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I agree.

Supposedly there are already at least 2 other sites dedicated to "anonymous" plans.

whatis-theplan.org and anonops.tk . . .

I'm skeptical that these sites are acting with each other. It seems more like they are all trying to take point on a movement with no official leadership.

Originally posted by BadMagician
I mean it sounds cool if the intention was pure - if you are worried about it being a honeypot so to speak, you can take measures before you use the site so you can't be tracked.

Combination of VPN/Tor/Proxy as well as fake information when signing up.

exactly just go through 4-6 foreign proxys that delete there data within 24-48 hours and you'll be ok
Sounds like a cool idea but i think its all about the money nothing more. Only stupid people will let themselfs get incriminated.

And i thought all the leaders that new what they were doing spilt of from anon because of how silly it got?

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Man, I would not discredit the gov(alphabet agencies) ability to match most of the hackers associated with Anonymous. Granted, there are probably more tech savvy folks on the public side of things, but I do not think one could successfully and continually dodge the authorities/agencies these days, imo. But, I hope some efforts will be maintained to reveal truth at the same time.

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The way I look at it... If we all stand up, how can TPTB control us? Imagine if within 2 months AnonPlus has 250 million users? What the hell are they gonna do then? Track each person down and round them up?

No, and there is power in numbers, but the ones with the most activity would probably be the ones targeted and tracked.
I would like to think we can always maintain an advantage, but I am cynical about such abilities these days.

Originally posted by Bixxi3
exactly just go through 4-6 foreign proxys that delete there data within 24-48 hours and you'll be ok

Not if the US government gets its way.

There is legislation being considered, that looks to pass, that will require ISPs to retain the entire online history of their users for a minimum of 18 months. Packet inspection of that data will reveal the content no matter how many proxies you jump through.

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Agreed, and I wonder if the multi faceted approach will benefit or harm any justice. It is quite the debacle to have a platform created that may be the last frontier for effective communication and action, only to watch it sink into felonious oblivion. I can see their intent in creating multiple avenues, so that info can continue to spread regardless of clamping efforts by authorities, so maybe it is wise to do such.
A frightening piece to all of this is the classification of subversiveness as terrorism. This warrants heavily funded and resourced opposition to freedom and voice, since it could be considered so dangerous. That is why I am afraid to participate to some degree.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by Bixxi3
exactly just go through 4-6 foreign proxys that delete there data within 24-48 hours and you'll be ok

Not if the US government gets its way.

There is legislation being considered, that looks to pass, that will require ISPs to retain the entire online history of their users for a minimum of 18 months. Packet inspection of that data will reveal the content no matter how many proxies you jump through.

That is scary. i think i remember signing some petition from demand progress about that. Im sure it won't pass though (i hope)

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I see this as a clear sign the "leaderless" "movement" is fracturing into multiple subsets or factions. How many sites does such a "movement" need?

I think an unrestricted social network is awesome. Direct democratic principles applied to a social context. It's a natural evolution of the net, and human society.

HOWEVER:

I think it's fair to say that it 'isnt' a movement. I've written elsewhere that Anon is a collection of independent thinkers doing their own thing. If they collaborate, it's for their own reasons - perhaps their current goals mostly exist in a similar direction at the moment?

So yes, leaderless they are, and yes they do have multiple subsets or factions - why wouldn't they? But they're definitely not a movement.

The number of sites attributed to a digital 'black bloc' is irrelevant I feel. Why the 'ire' towards Anonymous S-Overlord?

The Rev.

Some more info:

The idea of anonymous social networking seems to fly in the face of what social networking is generally accepted to be. That being the case, this project has the potential to transcend Anonymous’ hacking exploits and political aspirations to alter what we think of as social networking. Assuming the network actually does go live at some point and providing that it doesn’t wind up as a 4chan clone, Anonplus could provide an interesting study in anonymity in social networking. On the other hand, it might just feel like Myspace.

Considering that social networking can be loosely defined by the persistent links that exist between members (friendship connections, etc.) as opposed to fleeting connections (a post on a thread, etc.), in order for AnonPlus to work as I think it is intended it has the interesting task of engineering persistent anonymity that is somehow fundamentally different from simply using a social network with fake information. Facebook and its ilk revolutionized social networking by requiring evidence of identity, although those requirements eroded over time. Anonplus, it seems, would just be a jump back in time to the days where everyone used a screen name, and you could never really be sure who was who.

www.geekosystem.com...

So no identification will be required compared to most social networks, but still, how will we know what is real?

Seems more like someone is just trying to cash in on Anonymous publicity in hopes of getting rich like Mark Zuckerberg.

Signing up with them just seems like a bad idea. It will just be a huge target.

The sheep followers are trying to redefine it every day, probably to the master overlords delight, those are the guys living on blackproject paychecks. In the meantime nothing is being done to stop Big Brother from taking over the internet. Your little son Johnny-too-Good will work hard, get into all the right schools and try to get into public life, only to be blackmailed from his online history record of his college days serfin the porn. Total control.