There is really only ONE religion on Earth ...

There is really only ONE religion on Earth ...

All the religions on Earth stem from the one religion which started in Sumeria and Babylon.

Queen Semiramis was married to Nimrod, known as the fish god and also named Dagon. Nimrod was deified as the Sun God when he died and Queen Semiramis as the Moon goddess.

Queen Semiramis became known as "The Queen of Heaven, and was the prototype from which all other pagan goddesses came."

She is the Statue of Liberty that is why she proudly holds up her torch and faces the Morning Light.

Same worship all over the world ...

In India, the mother and child were called DEVAKI and KRISHNA, and also ISI and ISWARA. MAYA and BUDDHA are worshiped by Hindus. In Asia, it's CYBELE and DEOIUS; in pagan Rome, FORTUNA and JUPITER-PUER, or the boy JUPITER; in Greece, CERES, with the boy PLUTUS in her arms. In Egypt it was Isis and Osiris and baby Horus. Even in Tibet, China, and Japan, SHING MOO ... the holy mother in China is portrayed with a child in her arms and a glory (halo - nimbus) around her.

Jesus is a repeat of the Mithra story which was worshiped six hundred years before his supposed birth.
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and even after his birth.

Now we have Jesus and Mary … all that has changed however is the names, the religion or core belief is still basically the same.

Queen Semiramis had many aliases and one of them is ALLAH, who was worshiped by the Arabs long before Muhammad.

So it is very apparent that the core belief of religion is an ordinary woman giving birth to a God via the Virgin birth. Some religions hold that the Virgin Mary herself came from a immaculate birth. This is true of the Muslim faith who worship her more than Christians do and is core to Catholic beliefs of old.

I think she represents a “first fruit” planted on the Earth from what is called the “beginning of the world” in the bible. She is a virgin in the sense of being a first seed type or true to an original type ie like a Virgin Forest, as in not spoilt, tainted or corrupted, in the bible they use terms like “ no spot in thy” to explain this.


In this thread I will explain many things that are perhaps not that well know about religion.

They are spin-off religions. Doesn't mean there is only one.
Joanie Loves Chachi may stem form Happy Days, doesn't mean it "is" Happy Days.

In the past there were many Gods worshipped, all being aspects of the God RACE or breed.

God was not a spirit but a living breathing being whose sons mated with women.

God has many sons, plural, ... this is in the bible

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.


I think it is VERY important to realise that the biggest way truth is hidden in the bible is by getting you to believe God is a Spirit .

He is not ... he is a leader of a race, in fact he/they may not even be alien to this planet, as this is most likely THEIR planet.

We know they are a race of beings because the bible actually tells us this...

Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Also …

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

This however does not mean God is identical to man in his body type, just like him in some way because the description of God given in the bible is not manlike at all ...

Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

Revelation 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

So in the above we learn God is flesh and he has sons. … ie: he is not some spirit in the sky!

Thank you for this post, I agree completely. This is why I subscribe to the ancient astronaut theory instead of some fallible, man-made bible or otherwise. Why don't people understand that they're all praying to the same higher power?

In my opinion it comes down to cultural interpretation...S&F

We are one Religion.

The religion of Man values one thing above all else: Power.

Only when Mankind sees the full extend of it's Sin, will we finally overcome the blessing and curse that motivates all humans.

The lake of fire burning with brimstone:


To be thrown into the great lake of fire burning with brimstone, or hell as many know it as is not as most understand ... it is not an actual lake of burning fire and brimstone (sulfur) as in lava.

To understand the real meaning you have to understand that the lake of fire is a pool which is full of the “Sparks of life.” Creating a great mass of fire or a burning lake of fire. A spark of life, is the sperm from which you came and which resides in the pool of the burning lake until it is sent forth to become a life and when that life is extinguished it returns to the burning lake, waiting to be reborn, this is from Greek philosophy.

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At the end of the world there is the Conflagration (great fire) which brings about the renewal of the world, a huge amount of life is to be extinguished and will go on to be reborn or started anew, this is also symbolised by the phoenix which burns and is born a new from it's ashes.

Hel (being)

In Norse mythology, Hel is a being who presides over a realm of the same name, where she receives a portion of the dead. Hel is attested in the Poetic Edda, compiled in the 13th century from earlier traditional sources, and the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson.

The Prose Edda details that Hel rules over vast mansions, her servants in her underworld realm, and as playing a key role in the attempted resurrection of the god Baldr.

Hel's realm is referred to as the "Halls of Hel." In Grímnismál, Hel is listed as living beneath one of three roots growing from the world tree Yggdrasil. In Fáfnismál, the hero Sigurd stands before the mortally wounded body of the dragon Fáfnir, and states that Fáfnir lies in pieces, where "Hel can take" him. In Atlamál, the phrases "Hel has half of us" and "sent off to Hel" are used in reference to death. In stanza 4 of Baldrs draumar, Odin rides towards the "high hall of Hel."

Bartholomeus saga postola

The Old Norse Bartholomeus saga postola, an account of the life of Saint Bartholomew dating from the 13th century, mentions a "Queen Hel." In the story, a devil is hiding within a pagan idol, and bound by Bartholomew's spiritual powers to acknowledge himself and confess, the devil refers to Jesus as the one which "made war on Hel our queen" (Old Norse heriaði a Hel drottning vara).

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Originally posted by discl0sur3
Thank you for this post, I agree completely. This is why I subscribe to the ancient astronaut theory instead of some fallible, man-made bible or otherwise. Why don't people understand that they're all praying to the same higher power?

In my opinion it comes down to cultural interpretation...S&F

Thank you.

I am writing this thread because I think too many people are imprisoned by religion and also mislead, getting to grips with where it really comes from both sets you free and helps you understand things a lot better.

At it's core there is truth and I will get to that.

SCARFICAL FIRE

Where the belief and practice came from?

What does it mean?

Vedic beliefs

Vedic civilization was centred in the northern and northwestern parts of the Indian subcontinent
during the period which the Vedas, texts related to early Indo-Aryan religion, were being composed, during the period of roughly 1500 BC to 500 BC.

Their religious beliefs held that “The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two.”

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Alchemy symbol for the element of Fire:

In the practising alchemists point of view, fire is a catalyst to both initiating and completing metaphysical demonstrations. This symbol signifies upward mobility, forward motion, rising flames and aspirations to solar embodiment (in both literal and philosophical senses). To move into the energy of fire is to be utterly consumed, transformed and lifted out of limitation (vis a vis: smoke rising – also bringing to mind the symbolic message of the phoenix in alchemical literature).

Symbol image
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Notice this is an upright triangle, the shape of a pyramid ... I will cover more on this shape soon.

So from the above you start to understand what the Jews of the bible were doing when they made burnt offerings to the Gods, these were symbolic.

One example is the offering of the RED HEIFER

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LUCIFER AND LILITH


The ONLY Biblical text (Is 14:12) that mentions "Lucifer"
is referring in the Hebrew to a human being named "H'ILL" or
"The ILL" (meaning "The ILLumined One"). The actual name is
"H'ILL." "Lucifer" is a LATIN TRANSLATION of the meaning of
the Hebrew name "H'ILL" or "The ILLumined One." So there is
NO ONE named "Lucifer" at all; his name is "H'ILL"--and that
itself is not really a name, but a DESCRIPTION of a MAN who
has the odd characteristic of SHINING or GLOWING. Nowhere
does the text identify this person as Satan or even an angel
as such. It is a text about the King of Babylon at the time
of the end of this age, and it expressly calls "Lucifer" or
"H'ILL" a "MAN" (Is 14:16): "Is this ["Lucifer"] the MAN who
made the nations tremble?"

If "H'ILL/Lucifer" is the HUSBAND of LILith--as Israeli
Rabbi Herzl Rosenblum of Tel Aviv insists--then Isaiah is
prophesying about LILith's mate appearing at the end of the
age and ascending "above the stars...above the heights of
the clouds..." [Is 14:13,14) [The new 'Original Bible' text of Isaiah by Dr. James D. Tabor intimates the existence of LILith with H'ILL/Lucifer in Is 14; he renders his mate as,
"the exactress of gold"--a detail Zechariah Sitchin fans
will find familiar.]

If LILith's mate--H'ILL/Lucifer is expected to appear at
the end of this age, could she also make an appearance? Is
she just a woman?(many women?)

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THE DEVIL

The basic account about the devil is that he caused Adam
and Eve to lose immortality. If he were the cause of death,
then the devil was responsible for all the "ILLs" that lead
to death. Among his Hebrew names are "SatanIL" and "SamIL."
The root "SAM-" means "poison"--that is, something that was
known to cause "ILLness" and death. Whether used as word by
itself, or as a prefix or suffix, "IL/ILL" became a common
identification of the "Devil," the source of "evIL" and the
death to which it leads. Because "Lucifer" is really just
a Latin translation of "H'ILL"--"The ILLumined One"--or "The
Light-bearing One," it appears that "ILL" began as the word
signifying "ILLumination" and later became identified with
the concept of "ILLness" and "evIL" as a secondary meaning.
It may even go back to a proper name of some primordial or
angelic being, that is, his original identifying name. The
"H'ILL" may have been his name, or a word to link someone
--a human--to him: "He who is of ILL" or even "Son of ILL."

His sister LILith has also left her name in the language.
The root "LIL" may be added to by various feminine endings:
"LILah, LILette, LOLita, LOLa, LILina, LILy, DeLILah, etc."

The "LIL" means she glows pale white, the color of death
and plague, or the pale white of the MOON. The myth of the
white female unicorn, the "virgin" who violently resists any
man ruling her, may be a key to Lilith. The unicorn is said
to be a very dangerous creature, not the sweet innocent pony
of children's cartoons. The unicorn is sacred to LILith, but
she is not really a virgin herself--except in the technical
sense that she has never really been in love with any man. (or virgin as in true to an original type, like a virgin forest?)

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ISIS AND OSIRIS

It is well known that Lilith is the Hebrew version of
Isis, but few realize that the word used for Cains' "wife"
in Genesis 4 is "ISh'T" which became "Auset" in Egyptian
and "Isis" in Greek. Cains' "wife" IS Isis, ie Lilith.


Now we see these twins BOTH exiled, and as twins, BOTH
must have been "shining."

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So does this relate to ...

The myths and legends of Greece, India and South America describe the rule of Osiris and Isis.” The Mighty Osiris and Isis walked into the Egyptian Valley out of nowhere and assumed command.’ They were taller and more imposing than the men of the time, with long blond hair, marble like white skin and remarkable powers that enabled miracles”.

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As you can see from the above, we have two tribes telling the same story from different points of view.

The Jews claim Cain/Osiris was wicked and killed his brother and the Egyptians claim Able who is Seth, is the evil one.



The Osiris Legend.

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I would have to disagree.

But I am not a member of a "serious" religion. Well... it can be as serious as you want it. In fact, my religion encourages breaking off and forming your own heretical sect of that religion.

But I see where you're going with this

S&F

THE FALLEN ONES

The Biblical tradition says the Nephilim or "Fallen Ones"
were on the earth before the Flood and afterwards, but they
appear to be missing during the Flood. They were the elite
"Mighty Ones" or "men of renown" who are called "giants" and
who were the offspring of the "Sons of God" or Fallen Angels
who raped women. A spirit who has sex with a woman was also
known as an Incubus, the male counter-part of the Succubus,
which was the role traditionally accorded LILith. Thus, the
Incubus would be Lucifer or H'ILL.

It appears the confusion about the nature of LILith may
relate to her dual nature, part woman, part angel. She may
be the offspring of a Fallen Angel, inheriting characteristics
of both her parents. That would mean her brother Lucifer or
H'ILL is also a hybrid--son of a Fallen Angel and an earthly
mother.

The rabbis have such a story. The union resulted in two
offspring: male and female twins.

The old rabbinical tale involves the angel "Samael," who
ruled the 5th heaven, that is, the house of Aries, which is
ruled by Mars as a rising star. Samael left Mars and came
to the earth where he encountered Eve in the Garden. As an
Incubus, he fathered Cain and Cain's twin sister, "LULuwa,"
by Eve. The Hebrew ending "-uwa" means "of Eve" or simply
"a woman." It is similar to "-ith" in LILith. In Hebrew,
"LIL-ith" and "LIL-uwa" have the same basic meaning.

The Jewish legend about Cain and his sister LULuwa or
LILith implies that Cain is Lucifer, the shining one, the
light-bearer, H'ILL. Was Cain known to "shine" or "glow"?
Could he inherit some kind of angelic "ILLumination" from
his legendary father Samael?

It seems he may. Genesis twice states, in the Hebrew of
chapter 4, that Cain "GLOWED GREATLY, and his countenance
fell" after God failed to react to his sacrifice offering
in the same dramatic way He had to Abel's.

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THE MARK

The Genesis 4 Hebrew word meaning to "shine" or "glow"
is the root of such words as "horn" and "corn" and "crown."
It is used of Moses after he comes down from the mountain,
and his face "shown" so that the Israelites could not look
upon him. That is a bright light. And Genesis says Cain's
face "glowed GREATLY"--which signifies a VERY bright light.

The word caused some readers confusion. It can also be
rendered as "had horns" and Moses is often shown with horns
because of this. Some rabbis felt Cain had a horn growing
out of his forehead--like a unicorn...that is, like LILith.
Other stories had Cain given two horns as the "mark" which
God put on his forehead to protect him. It is for the same
reason that Lucifer and his father Satan are depicted with
horns; as "shining ones," they could also be considered as
having horns due to the dual meaning of the Hebrew word.

After fathering Cain and Liltih, Samael was given a name
we are more familiar with: Satan, the "One who Sits as Judge
or Accuses." The idea is that, having been caught defiling
Eve, he began accusing all humans of sin to make his offense
seem less serious by comparison. He became the Prosecutor
of the human race.

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Seems these things remain in the bible.

Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

JESUS – and the wheat that will be divided from the chaff,

In the New Testament Christian writings, Jesus is placed
in the alternative role of Defense Attorney; John says, "We
have an ADVOCATE before the Father, even Jesus Christ, the
Righteous." The Messiah or Christ is contrasted with Satan
and Lucifer, his son, the False Christ, the spirit of Cain,
who killed Abel, the type of Christ, the Good Shepherd. In
all these parallels the ancient rivalry between Cain and the
true sons of Adam, Abel and Seth, and later Jesus, is meant
to convey the sense of a cosmic struggle between two family lines: The legitimate one from Adam and the illegitimate one
from Samael/Satan. These two genetic streams became mixed
at the time of Noah, Genesis says. So the two DNA types are
supposedly intertwined in all of us to a greater or lesser
degree.

Jesus seems to refer to this idea frequently. He speaks
of "the (human) seed planted by God" and "the seed sown by
the evil one." He says the two will grow up together until
the last days when the wheat will be divided from the chaff,
which would signify that the nutritious part of the wheat
would be divided from the indigestible part in each grain.

Jesus acknowledged that the descendents of Abraham (as He
was Himself through Mary) could also be "sons of your father
the devil...who was a MURDERER from the beginning." In the
Hebrew usage, the phrase "from the beginning" was how Jews
referred to the book of Genesis. So Jesus was saying that
the "devil" fathered human offspring and "was a MURDERER in
the book of Genesis."

The "MURDERER" in Genesis, of course, was Cain. Jesus
indicated that Cain was not merely "a" devil, but THE devil,
the evil one. Cain literally embodied Satan in some way and
the way Jesus is indicating is biological. Satan was Cain's
father, in other words.

John, in his first epistle, all but asserts this openly.
He says, "In this, the CHILDREN of God are manifest and the
CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL ... For this is the message which you
have heard FROM THE BEGINNING [ie IN GENESIS] that we should
love one another, NOT AS CAIN, who was OF THAT WICKED ONE
and slew his brother...[1 Jn 3:10-12]" The expression "OF
THAT WICKED ONE" in Greek is the standard way of indicating
sonship, that is, that Cain was the SON OF the Wicked One,
which would here mean that Cain was the son of Satan.

LILith was not only Cain/Lucifer's sister; she became his
wife as well. As soon as Cain is exiled to the east of Eden
and therefore toward Jordan and the Euphrates Valley of what
is now Iraq, Genesis says "he knew his wife" and she brought
forth a son. So Genesis indicates Cain had a sister his age
(which must have been c.13 because it seems the time of his
exile was also the first time he had sex with his wife and
that she was also exiled with him). In the Apocrypha and
Pseudepigrpha, her name is LULuwa, and she becomes his wife.
[See "The Second Book of ADAM & EVE," chapter I, verse 6.]
It is also implied that the two had animosity toward each
other ["The First Book of ADAM & EVE," ch LXXIV, vs 6-8].

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Thanks Bob.

At the moment I am just laying down the basics, hopefully if you are following along you will see that there is two family lines being talked about here, the one of Satan and the one of Abraham supposedly.

Satan's line however is not evil ... in the bible all Satan does is give one man some boils, God however kills thousands, interestingly as we see above God protects Satan's line with a MARK and later in the bible we find these interesting verses...


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.





2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

LILITH

SUMERIAN LILITH

LILith is "Lilitu" in the Sumerian texts. A terra-cotta relief of Lilitu shows her with a 'beehive'-shaped helmet or headress. She has three-toed feet like a bird or falcon (or dinosaur/dragon?). Her body is nude and voluptuous, thus seductive. She has long hair and a pair of falcon wings. At either side are a pair of owls, which are birds
of prey, night-hunters famed for vigilance & wisdom. Her feet stand on jackals, known for their plaintive crying in the night.

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HEBREW LILITH

The wife/sister of Lucifer. Queen of the Underworld and of witches. Queen of the succubi, who ravished men in their sleep for their seed to reproduce "Lilem" or demons. Sucked the blood of young children and of girl babies. Abducted and ate boys. She is the "Night Hag" and "Night
Mary" who brings "terror by night" and nightmares. The rabbis say that Lilith led Lucifer into rebellion and caused his fall.

PSEUDEPIGRAPHAL LILITH

Called "Luluwa"--a version of "Lilith" in Hebrew--she was the twin sister and wife of Cain. Would "shine" or "glow brightly" or perhaps have horns like her twin brother. Said to be the offspring of Samael or Satanail, now called Satan. Cain's nickname "H'ILL" or "The Shining One" is male form of "Lilith" in Hebrew. Exiled for murder, which she is said to help cause. Liluwa was noted for her great beauty when she was young. As offspring of an angel, said to have powers of flight and
shape-shifting, and to be very tall. Their line noted for cannibalism and drinking blood. Luluwa is blamed for Cain's downfall.

ROMAN LILITH

Libitina, or "little Libi," apparently derived her name from the semitic root "L'B" which meant "fat" or "whitish" in color. The name relates to Lilith's association with the pale light of the moon. In the case of Libitina, she lived in the Underworld and was the Roman version of Persephone, goddess of witches, wife of Pluto. This would
correspond exactly to the Hebrew story of Lilith as the mate & sister of Lucifer.

GREEK LILITH

Persephone was the Queen of the Underworld. Also known by the very likely older name "Pro-Serpentina" meaning "Proceeded from a Serpent" --that is, the Serpent's Daughter.

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Originally posted by AprilSky
There is really only ONE religion on Earth ...

All the religions on Earth stem from the one religion which started in Sumeria and Babylon.

Queen Semiramis was married to Nimrod, known as the fish god and also named Dagon. Nimrod was deified as the Sun God when he died and Queen Semiramis as the Moon goddess.

Queen Semiramis became known as "The Queen of Heaven, and was the prototype from which all other pagan goddesses came."

She is the Statue of Liberty that is why she proudly holds up her torch and faces the Morning Light.

Same worship all over the world ...

In India, the mother and child were called DEVAKI and KRISHNA, and also ISI and ISWARA. MAYA and BUDDHA are worshiped by Hindus. In Asia, it's CYBELE and DEOIUS; in pagan Rome, FORTUNA and JUPITER-PUER, or the boy JUPITER; in Greece, CERES, with the boy PLUTUS in her arms. In Egypt it was Isis and Osiris and baby Horus. Even in Tibet, China, and Japan, SHING MOO ... the holy mother in China is portrayed with a child in her arms and a glory (halo - nimbus) around her.

Jesus is a repeat of the Mithra story which was worshiped six hundred years before his supposed birth.
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and even after his birth.

Now we have Jesus and Mary … all that has changed however is the names, the religion or core belief is still basically the same.

Queen Semiramis had many aliases and one of them is ALLAH, who was worshiped by the Arabs long before Muhammad.

So it is very apparent that the core belief of religion is an ordinary woman giving birth to a God via the Virgin birth. Some religions hold that the Virgin Mary herself came from a immaculate birth. This is true of the Muslim faith who worship her more than Christians do and is core to Catholic beliefs of old.

I suppose you're not interested in knowing how comprehensively wrong you are?
Jesus bears no resemblance to Mithras, and anyone who's not a devotee of Acharya S knows that..
You're completely wrong about what Catholics think about Mary. Immaculate conception does not mean what you think it does.
Vicky

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Personally I think anyone who believes Jesus walked this Earth 2000 years ago is beyond stupid but there you go, not that I discredit everything that Jesus says in the bible because I believe he is a symbol.

However I am not much interested in having an argument with Christians, you believe whatever makes you happy.

This thread is about where religion came from ...