Why Would ANYONE Vote for Obama With His Incredible Corruption History?

I agree with the OP.

I voted for Obama before, maybe just because he was the lesser of 2 evils. I knew in the back of my mind this would happen, business as usual. I didn't want to believe it.

I guess this is always going to happen when the "general public" or as some call them "sheep" are the only people voting. Everybody needs to vote, be counted and have a better pool of candidates to choose from or it's never going to change.

Something just is not right with media and politics right now.Fareed Zakaria is advising president Obama on the middle east.but He is suppose to be a media opinion show and news.This stuff just keeps getting more bizarre if you ask me.

Why would anyone vote, PERIOD, given the US government's incredibly corrupt history? Crimes against humanity piled on top of violations of international law, deliberate overthrowing of democratically elected governments and replacing them with dictatorships, testing of bio and chemical weapons on humans, training of people like Al Qaeda, sponsorship of dictatorships even today that routinely slaughter their own citizens.

WHY would anyone vote? This is a system that maintains the same bureaucracy no matter which figurehead gets into power - but the brainwashed people seem to think pulling a lever once every four years is somehow going to magically fix everything.

Newsflash: It won't. Get off your asses and start organising, because the only way to fix the system is with a violent overthrow of it no matter the cost.

I would vote for him if I voted.

This guy is one of, if not the best president there has ever been.

Here is a guy who sticks up for his friends, helps them out even if it means bending the rules a bit, and he fights evil wherever he finds it. the only reason people are able to call him on it is because he is HONEST.

I prefer solidity over shiftyness anyday.

Nit-picking closet racists need to go and boil their collective heads, as does each and every buffoon that has been braying loudly about the mans birth certificate. That nonsense is right up there with believing the bloody earth is flat.

It makes me smile to know that enough people will vote him in and people like the OP and the birthers will have to sit there with a face like a smacked arse for the next four years.

Originally posted by Rockdisjoint

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
Obama has my vote. You can't undo what Bush did in 8 years in just 4 so I say lets give him another chance.

Ahhh, so you are one of those people that promotes corruption in government. Point noted. Vote for Obama, and you vote for corruption.

Ok, let me get this right. You want me to vote for Ron Paul, the same guy that wants to destroy the government and stick to the constitution? Why on earth would any sane person vote for that?

Hell, why even run if you don't like big government?

edit on 14-5-2011 by Rockdisjoint because: (no reason given)

Please reread the constitution. There is a way to make Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid/whatever constitutional. It is called /clears throat: INTERSTATE COMPACT!

You can actually do a lot of stuff with our American Constitution. It is just that Progressives, Conservatives, NeoConservatives, Liberals, Marxist's/Communist's and Social Conservatives want centralized power because they are lazy and want to take the route of the philosopher king(which is always doomed to failure because of the Philosopher King paradox[social structures useful for a philosopher king would be toxic to a pre-philosopher king thus no philosopher king can ever materialize]).

While the US constitution requires a philosopher citizen approach in order to enact real change.

Originally posted by furono
I agree with the OP.

I voted for Obama before, maybe just because he was the lesser of 2 evils. I knew in the back of my mind this would happen, business as usual. I didn't want to believe it.

I guess this is always going to happen when the "general public" or as some call them "sheep" are the only people voting. Everybody needs to vote, be counted and have a better pool of candidates to choose from or it's never going to change.

If it's the sheep who are voting, who are the masses who are not voting? You think everyone who is not voting knows about the NWO and the left/right paradigm? You have to be kidding.

reply to post by Yazman

Newsflash: It won't. Get off your asses and start organising, because the only way to fix the system is with a violent overthrow of it no matter the cost.

Been reading From dictator to democracy have you, just like the people in the Middle East?

Where did you get it from Fabian Essays In Socialism? their free e-books?

Ever wonder WHO could be behind finding that book all over those war-torn countries???

Follow the dotted line you may be surprised

Seems in 2008 Former British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, became advisor in the Middle East to none other than JP Morgan investment bank.

...Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has gone to work as a part time consultant for the huge JP Morgan investment bank...

It's not just a question of a British leader leaving his nation's top office for employment in a sprawling company with worldwide interests everyone does that these days but the fact that Blair is doing it while at the same time continuing official duties in a very sensitive and financially key part of the world.

Blair is not being hired by Morgan for his economic skills, which were never impressive. As JP Morgan's chief executive Jamie Dimon announced frankly, "There are only a handful of people in the world who have the knowledge and relationships that he has."

Such relationships are key to Blair's current official duties.

Thanks to pressure from his friend George Bush, Blair was handed a very sensitive assignment: Middle East envoy working on behalf of the US, Russia, the UN and the EU.


....Though supposedly focused on Palestinian development, Blair's activities necessarily involve top level contacts with leaders throughout the world, particularly the leaders of the Middle East, leaders flush with trillions of dollars in assets, leaders making enormous deals and investments around the globe--the kind of deals that are Morgan's bread and butter. Is it not conceivable there might be a slight conflict of interest, at least a whiff of impropriety, in Blair's twin roles as peace maker and deal maker?

...many in the Middle East and elsewhere questioned the former PMs ability to act as an honest broker in the region because of his unequivocal support for George Bush in the war in Iraq, and failing to call for a halt to the Israeli bombing of Lebanon last summer. They had a point.... www.alternet.org...

So whats the connection?

...Before Tony Blair became British Prime Minister in May 1997, he was Chairman of the Fabian Society....

...In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society dynastic banking families in the City of London financed the Communist takeover of Russia.

Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907.

By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co- ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner.... centurean2.wordpress.com...

The London School of Economics was founded in 1895 by Fabian Society members Sidney Webb, Beatrice Webb and George Bernard Shaw. If you google a banks name plus "London School of Economics" you will find the banking world littered with London School of Economics graduates.

Cecil Rhodes was a formative member of the Fabian Society. He left his fortune in the hands of Lord Nathan Rothschild. (George Soros is a member too)

The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government.... www.sodahead.com...

David Rockefeller at the 1991 Bilderberg Conference

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. . . . It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." www.arcinius.com...

I always find it amusing that the various "collectivists" are in such a rush to become the permanent serfs of a dictatorship composed of "the intellectual elite and world bankers" Who are supposedly their sworn enemies. Ain't Propaganda great?




Ever consider that "Marxism" is just being used as a method for moving the emerging middle class back into serfdom (can not own property) under the control of a new aristocracy composed of Banksters????

There is a reason the Fabian's have as their coat of arms a wolf in sheep's clothing, and they desire [is] to mould the earth "nearer to the[ir] hearts desire."

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by Yazman

 

Newsflash: It won't. Get off your asses and start organising, because the only way to fix the system is with a violent overthrow of it no matter the cost.

Been reading From dictator to democracy have you, just like the people in the Middle East?

Where did you get it from Fabian Essays In Socialism? their free e-books?

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LOL. You're really so condescending that you assume I'm some sort of idiot who supports the Fabians? Fabians are not pro-revolution, their ideology explicitly supports voting and working within the system. This is something I strongly oppose. Whether its the Fabians in the Democrat Party or the UK or Australian Labor Parties, or the Neocon globalists in the Republican Party, or the Australian Liberal Party or UK Tories, both neocons and fabians ALIKE are the enemy. I will never support either and would rather fight them to the bitter end.

Furthermore, I think its not only condescending but absolutely insulting that you come in here and rattle off this big, utterly worthless diatribe, coming in here labeling me as all sorts of things, one ideology or another, when I never stated any support for anything of the sort.

Not only that but really? When you here somebody calling for OVERTHROW of the government the only example you can come up with is the recent protesting in the Middle east? Jesus christ, you have got to be kidding me!

Despite what the media will have you believe, no "revolution" occurred in either Egypt or Tunisia. They did nothing but stand around until they got their figurehead booted from power - the system didn't change. The same bureaucrats are still in power. They liked to blame everything on a figurehead, when in reality they can't see the forest for the trees. Nothing of any real worth occurred, they simply managed to get one guy out of power and they are going to vote for another in an upcoming election.

I have to wonder if you even read my post AT ALL? You come in here and ramble on about Fabian Socialism, who are explicit reformists, who want nothing anywhere close to violent overthrow of the government, and then you point out a bunch of people protesting in the hopes of getting a new election.

Maybe you should have read my post, though. Voting for another Republican or another Democrat isn't going to fix our problems. Its NEVER fixed our problems - we've been DOING THAT for decades and decades and things have always gotten worse. I don't know what it has to take before people like you will stop advocating reform and realise "Hey, maybe pulling a lever once every four years isn't going to result in the sort of change I want!"

Alex Jones is right when he labels both parties as traitors. The same bureaucrats are in power no matter who you vote for, the system is still intact and its NOT going to change simply because you've put a new face on your Democrat or Republican party.

Instead of coming in here spouting ignorance, writing 1000-word long diatribes about things that have NOTHING to do with what I wrote, you might be well advised to follow the slogan of this website.

Originally posted by angus1745
I would vote for him if I voted.

This guy is one of, if not the best president there has ever been.

Here is a guy who sticks up for his friends, helps them out even if it means bending the rules a bit, and he fights evil wherever he finds it. the only reason people are able to call him on it is because he is HONEST.

I prefer solidity over shiftyness anyday.

Nit-picking closet racists need to go and boil their collective heads, as does each and every buffoon that has been braying loudly about the mans birth certificate. That nonsense is right up there with believing the bloody earth is flat.

It makes me smile to know that enough people will vote him in and people like the OP and the birthers will have to sit there with a face like a smacked arse for the next four years.

Prime example of why The USA is being flushed down the pooper!! With views like that, PLEASE STAY A NON-VOTER!!

Fights evil wherever he finds it?

Ron Paul 2012!!

reply to post by angus1745


The only reason the birther movement is dumb is the fact that even if he was not born in the USA, he would still be considered a natural born citizen because his mother was a citizen. So the hole birther thing is a waste of time.

2012 can't come soon enough so we can vote this jackass out of office.

Ron Paul 2012!!

Originally posted by deesul69
reply to post by angus1745

 

The only reason the birther movement is dumb is the fact that even if he was not born in the USA, he would still be considered a natural born citizen because his mother was a citizen. So the hole birther thing is a waste of time.

2012 can't come soon enough so we can vote this jackass out of office.

Ron Paul 2012!!

Not to mention that even if they got their goal of having him booted from office, ultimately all it achieves is making Biden President.

They might as well just wait until the next election.

This raises the question of why people continue to keep voting crappy politicians back into office over and over again. While I'm not a psychologist, I do think I have an idea of why people are often loathe to vote out politicians who aren't doing their job, and why anyone who is an incumbent, no matter how poor he/she are, has a built in advantage. Basically it boils down to a fear of the unknown. Voters would rather stick with a miserable excuse of a senator, representative, governor or even a president because they are a known quantity (and quality, or lack thereof). This is the "fire or frying pan" scenario - being in the frying pan might be hellish, but in the human mind there can be worse places to find oneself, and people have a tendency to put more emphasis on the fear of a potentially negative outcome than a positive one. Another example is people who stay with spouses/partners that are abusive or that they dislike or don't get along with - they are by no means fond of the current situation but it sure beats that old fear of the unknown of something that might be worse.

Any politician who is an incumbent will be harder to unseat simply because of this.

The founding fathers came up with a very good system to try and prevent any sort of lock on power by instilling term limits on the presidency, but they didn't foresee that congress would be monopolized by many senators and representatives that voters are unwilling to vote out. NO ONE SHOULD EVER DIE OF OLD AGE IN CONGRESS! A bad president will be gone after 8 years max (though in that time they can do a lot of damage) but some members of congress are only voted out permanently by the grim reaper. That's just wrong.

So to answer the OP's question, in a general sense and at face value, this is why I think that some politicians get handed a second term (or more, if in congress or certain local offices). There are of course other reasons why someone might get re-elected (or elected in the first place), such as corporate backing, lobbyists, and yes, in many cases, outright corruption. But for those who do vote (and assuming their vote gets counted) that's why someone might vote for someone who isn't up to par (to say the least in the case of Obama).

Originally posted by furono
I agree with the OP.

I voted for Obama before, maybe just because he was the lesser of 2 evils. I knew in the back of my mind this would happen, business as usual. I didn't want to believe it.

Then how will realizing this change the way you vote in the future? Don't you think it's time we had Ron Paul in office? Check his voting record. I dare you. The guy is incorruptible, and that probably scares TPTB the most. They can't get their grubby hands on him. He truly WILL represent the people- because he's been doing it now for 30+ years, with one of the most impeccable records ever amassed in the history of this country. You CAN feel REAL good about putting HIM in office.

Good people tolerating a corrupt government is like a cancer.

It'll die soon enough.

People who will vote for Obama no matter what:

Unions
Significant segment of the black population
People on welfare and food stamps who just want the freebies to keep rolling in
90% of Media People
People who only vote Democrat regardless of anything
GM Execs
Big Bank Execs