Orgasms Without Love Are feeding Evil!

Any recognition from the OP? would be nice.

Originally posted by Ghost147
Great post, but unfortunately you do need to touch up on your scientific reasoning.

The reason why no one has heard that a vast population of the scientific community agrees with any of these "facts" is because we already know why both males and females sometimes (or regularly) choose animated or still images of adult content to nurture an ever growing lust, especially within the time limits of their sexual peaks (much earlier in males than in females).

You seem like a very spiritual person, and I have absolutely no problem with that at all, but you cannot simply push aside and hide from the evidence that does conjure immensities of proof backed up by thousands upon thousands of controlled experiments that do show how your reference to the "beginning stages of a relationship" are in fact products of chemical and biological substances, such as hormones, rather than simply "energy" - which you've stated that you realize has no proof.

It's a nice thought, "loving conscious energy", but I'm afraid that seems beyond mere speculation and enters the realm closer to wishful thinking. Because it is even beyond speculation, this statement - I apologize - will most definitely require proof. Not only that this energy you speak of exists in the manner you speak of, but that it is both conscious and loving.

Then you go on about turning this "loving energy" into "hateful" or "angry energy". Such an out-there statement will most definitely require just as extraordinary proof, I'm afraid.




From what it appears to be, your simply recognizing features in a person which can sway you to believe that they are a happy, good individual. One can only look at someones eyes to get at least a mildly accurate glimpse at that person is caring, angry, disgusted, and so on.




Simply look at this mans facial expressions, and you could see the likely hood of the events described under each photo as being, well, likely. We're humans, we're social species and we are rather good at detecting emotions and feelings without the need for verbal or written communication. Body language shows a lot more than people grant it, or at the very least use it for.

A person such as yourself may conclude that the far-right image is of a man with "loving conscious energy", possibly with a very large aura. Where as the image on the far-left is a man with "negative energy". The real fact is, is that your simply using your natural talents to detect what emotion that man is feeling.




You now go on to masturbation and pornography. Throwing words like "swarming entities" and "subliminal messages" at us like we were targets in a field for archery. It's an interesting concept, I'll give you that, but it will do you no good in solving anything without having the true details behind these events.

Did you know that a lot of animals masturbate? Primates are an exceptional example for that, but it happens in hundreds of thousands of other species as well. Birds masturbate, a lot mind you, Dolphins masturbate, hell, there is even documentation that shows that they sometimes used humans to do it for them, dogs and cats do it all the time and I would be surprised if anyone on this board hasn't seen that.

Masturbation, whether you like it or not, is a natural phenomenon.

Is it because an evil energy, dark chi, or devil driven spirit has taken hold of all this millions upon millions (perhaps billions) of humans and wildlife? or is it because all these creatures possess hormones, have specific periods in their lives where a sexual drive is much more potent, and so on and so on and so on.




I have no doubts that a chronic porn addict will have a higher chance of having a poor relationship. But do not direct the causes of that to an unproved, unlikely story of mystical-ness, but rather, look at the evidence we already have and the research we have already took time to study and conclude over that which scientific theory is the more probable one.





PS: Both my fiance and I were porn addicts to the most extreme, in fact we were and are sex addicts. You could not imaging what we have seen or done sexually, and yet we are both unbelievably loving people. We are the most loyal you may ever meet, and we are the most giving you may ever meet. We have never cheated on anyone in our past relationships, even when those consist of long distance relationships that separate two beings over literally thousands of miles and even in another country, all while being sex addicts. Consistently happy, working together, and enjoying our lives together because we recognize that the other person is much more gratifying than one on a screen.

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Originally posted by Scorpitarius
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I believe the concept of evil is a lack of love.

I've heard that love and hate are two sides of the same coin, but a lack of love equalling hate is a bit of a stretch for me. If I am asleep I am not loving anyone, so does sleep bring hate? I know you'll say I'm using it in the wrong context, and I say to equate love and/or hate with sex (be it consentual or self gratification) is also using it in the wrong context.

Sex is used to reduce the buildup of sex hormones in the brain. That's all.

Love (well, intimate love) for me, is when I am with someone on a snowy night, cuddling on a sofa and openly giving each other our hopes and dreams, to the point where the whole world seems to have disappeared. We look at the clock and we are astonished at how the hours slipped by us. This is intimacy. This is love. And, it has nothing to do with sex.

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What if I masturbate lovingly?

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Interesting post OP. I haven;t read the whole thread yet but it reminded me of some great articles I have read on it that really resonated with me. There is indeed an exchange of energies during sex however I would not label sex without love evil. Although it does feed the lower energies and leads to separateness or a feeling of unfulfilment eventually however it really depends on ones evolution and understanding of sex at the time. Here is an excellent article on it that I generally concur with and says it better then I can:

The Mystery of Romantic Energy

1999-7-26 17:20:00

The Molecular Relationship, Chapter 10

THE MYSTERY OF ROMANTIC ENERGY

The correctness and incorrectness of the sharing of sex energies has been a cause of debate for thousands of years. We have covered several principles seeking to bring enlightenment in this area, but the subject must be more deeply explored. Man must correctly understand the right use of this power; without understanding, he always follows the lower way.

Another factor making right understanding more complicated is the fact that the right use of sex energy is different for different people at varying stages of consciousness and evolution. The right use for each individual is that highest use which his consciousness can accept.

There are four basic ways individuals look at sex:

1. The first way is by one who thinks that the giving and receiving of physical pleasure is natural, and that he should enjoy it with whomever he finds attractive. Such a person will ask himself: "What is the harm in enjoying sex with whomever I want and obtaining physical fulfillment?" His answer is usually, "I can see nothing wrong with it, for I give and receive pleasure."

This person receives no great condemnation from his soul for the way he uses sex energy, for he uses it according to the best of his knowledge. Nevertheless, because of natural law, he suffers from feelings of emptiness and lack of fulfillment on the emotional level from time to time, and feels impulses from his soul prompting him to greater discrimination and a more correct use of sex energy. Even though there is emotional sharing, this attitude makes it difficult for this person to merge with the deeper emotional energies. This is the next field of endeavor for him to explore.

This person shares the least amount of energy in sex and is therefore able to enjoy free sexual license without affecting his conscience. A basic rule is: The less energy shared in sex, the less discriminating the person need be in its use and selection of partners. The more energy shared in sex, the more discriminating the person must be in its use.

If there were no energy shared at all, then there could be no "sin" in pure physical sex. For instance, the animals do not share energies in the way that humans do; thus, they are under no condemnation for their use of sex. The basic point to remember is that sex is not good or evil because of the physical act itself, but because of the manner in which the energies connected with the act are directed.

2. The second way of looking at sex is viewing it with the idea that any sexual relationship is good if romantic love and sharing of emotional feeling are involved. "If no one gets hurt, it's OK" is the general idea expressed here.

A person with this viewpoint sees no reason to hold back his or her sexual expression as long as there is a feeling of romantic love between two people. He or she feels that sex for physical satisfaction only, with no love interest, is wrong, but can rarely give a logical explanation as to why. He merely feels that love should be there; somehow it makes it more satisfying.

For a person at this stage of thinking, this is the most correct use of sex energy for him. It may be quite fulfilling, but it still leaves him short of full completeness, for a full sharing and union is not accomplished at this stage of thinking.

3. The third attitude toward sex is the black and white view. Sex sanctioned by the church is the only right sex, and sex outside of this sanction is wrong sex, a terrible sin. People at many different levels of consciousness get caught in this rigid way of thinking. For those who are governed by their emotions, this way of thinking can be beneficial to them and lay a foundation for stability and security in relationships. Those who are of higher evolution want logical explanations as to why sex is good or bad in different circumstances and feel as if they are caught in a trap by religious teachings.

Those who govern their sex lives purely by black and white religious teachings will also fall short of fullness. One major problem is that they often suffer guilt feelings over many of their sexual desires. A person may desire to experiment with his spouse or find the body of a passing female attractive and feel guilty because he thinks God or his religious authorities would disapprove. This person is always struggling with "temptation" and is never happy with himself.

Such a person needs to break his mind free from rigid rules and govern himself by true principles. He needs to understand why something is good or evil and not merely believe a doctrine because someone has told him it is true. Religious teachings generally guide mankind in the right direction, but their virtue is often destroyed by a black and white attitude. "The letter (of the law) killeth, but the spirit (of the law) giveth life. "[II Corinthians 3:6]

4. The fourth attitude is that of the person who is evolved enough to understand the true principles governing sexual expression.

These he understands either because he intuitively perceives them, or has been taught by someone else. In either case, his sexual actions are governed by knowledge and understanding. This attitude is rare indeed in today's world. However, if a clear teaching on the matter gained wide circulation, the number of people in the fourth category would be dramatically increased.

The basic physical sex urge in man propels him toward sex because he senses an urge to union, and sex is a symbol of union in the physical world. The higher energies of desire, love and purpose also seek union and true fulfillment only comes when all human energies in the male-female relationship achieve union. It makes sense then that anyone who gains a true knowledge of a path to greater fulfillment will seek with all his energies to achieve it.

All persons who have not shared all the energies leading to complete sexual union and fulfillment sense that there is something more available to them, but know not how to find it. On the other hand, once this greater fulfillment is experienced, even once, neither heaven or hell can stop that person from seeking and eventually discovering all the laws of unity. As knowledge is then increased, the numbers of individuals who use sex energy correctly correspondingly increases...

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Also here is another good article by the same author that sheds more light on it from a little bit different perspective.

Sex and Knowing God

1999-7-20 09:28:00

I think you'll find this next chapter interesting. We'll backtrack soon and cover more details from previous questions.

The Molecular Relationship, Chapter 7

SEX AND KNOWING GOD

As we arrive at the cusp of the New Age men and women are asking questions about the right use of sex as they never have before. Many have broken off from the authority syndrome and are trying to decide for themselves concerning the use of sex.

Let us shed some light on this subject which has, in the past, been approached with such philosophical obscurity. To comprehend the answers one must understand the purpose of marriage and sex as it applies to man and woman.

The Bible gives us some help here. In the Old Testament Hebrew two words are translated as "man." The first is ADAM and the second is IYSH. ADAM is sometimes translated as "man" and sometimes literally as "Adam." ADAM is not the name of a person, but of a racial being that is the hermaphroditic combination of male and female in the image of God: "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called THEIR name Adam, in the day when they were created." [Genesis 5:2] On the other hand, the word IYSH refers to the single male only.

The word ADAM should not have been translated "man", as IYSH was, for it refers to a certain type of man. Genesis 1:26-27, where we have a description of the sixth creation day, is an example of ADAM being translated as "man" in all Bibles. Let's transliterate ADAM as it reads in the Hebrew as "Adam" and see how it reads: "And God said, Let us make Adam in our image, after our likeness...So God created Adam in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

This scripture is especially interesting when we read it in the light of the next chapter which tells us that"on the seventh day God ended his work..."[Genesis 2:2] On the seventh day, then, we are told that the "end" or last work of God was the creation of woman. She was taken out of the man and brought to him: "And Adam said, This is the bone of my bones, and the flesh of my flesh: she shall be called woman because she was taken out of man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." [Genesis 2:23-24]

If woman was not created until the seventh day then who was the female mentioned as existing during the sixth day?...

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Hi i am Talking as an addict myself ; You and your truthly understanding of mega matrix of our soul that was created by our Fathers/Mothers of Orgasm was repeatally for love but became a malfunction. it was our first system to become peace in dialect, but we started working for inner dialective souls, so forces of sounds dialected love 'words' as alphabet ABC ect, took a nap into 'sounds' 'dialectives' 'sees' or 'look' Ending into Fantastic Equalization Stimations Inners to Complete. I sence, that within I am without... theirs a equation i heard, it goes like these. Life+Life=LOVE... PairLyrical

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Awesome post man, I can't disagree with any of it!
Peace and One Love

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Wow, that makes so much sense, in fact, is probably something I've known internally in the first place. Thanks for the info.
Peace and One Love

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I would never attempt to try and guess about a person's belief systems, I'd be too worried about being way off the mark.. Truth is, I KNOW everything happens for a reason, every little fly that passes by your nose, every person, every event, every tree and breath of air. I could go in to explain how this is so, and why....but way off topic and long winded. Ask and I will write something up for you, though i doubt your interest, no offense.
I am not a very yin-yang kind of person, I made the picture to make a t-shirt out of, I like Wu tang, that is what the avatar means.
Personally, I don't believe you need dark to have light or evil to have love. Evil and dark are a lack of light and love. I believe in a possibility of living in only light, and only love. This is my motivation and understanding.
Peace and One Love!

Bla bla. Reserve your moral high ground for the day of your death when you will meet not your maker, but nothingness... as you will cease to exist. I shall continue to jizz (err... produce orgasms) at whim for no other reason than "I feel like it". I pity the religious fanatics that gave the OP stars and flags.

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I agree with a lot that was said in your post. I've read Bob Monroe's books where he describes addictions and entities in the non physical realities feeding off of it, attaching themselves to your consciousness and sometimes influencing your thoughts. This makes sense and there is no reason for him to have made this up after doing so much research on him, the Monroe Institute and Thomas Campbell. The addictions carry over after you are gone from here as well. He described in his book how sometimes in the non physical, during out of body experiences, he would sometimes see PILES of people (non physical representations no doubt) intertwined with each other in sexual rituals because they simply could not part from the physical addictions they once had during life in our physical universe.

However... for someone who isn't exactly addicted to masturbating, especially a male, nature still calls. My balls ache after a few days of no release and this isn't technology, an addiction, or even a habit really. It is nature, my body telling me that I need to do something about it. Without the release the aching can be very distracting through the day and every time a sexual thought comes into my mind it only continues and gets worse until something is done about it. This is the body nature gave to me. If nature says I need to do something about it, I tend to think I should listen. If some dolt in the non physical feels they need to live through me once in a while to get their non physical rocks off then I suppose there isn't much I can do about it. As long as they don't go putting evil thoughts into my head while masturbating, life will probably go on for me without too much to worry about.

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You've completely missed the point of the symbol of duality...

Also the reason why you can't have one without the other is because all these things are based on perception... As long as light exists, no matter how much of it you are surrounded with... Then darkness exists as well...

Light vs dark
Good vs bad
Right vs wrong

All of these are based on the faculty of perception, meaning that a sensory mechanism is required, which means that there will be limits based on the fact that a mechanism is inherently finite.... And where there are limits, there are points of demarcation... And in the most abstract... A duality.... Both enter the mind through the same faculty... As long as this faculty is required, there is a duality....

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Non-physical entities? What is that? There is nothing but the here and the now. Anything that can't be postulated through science and mathematics is nothing but a con-man's game. Aliens, statistical certainty, spirits, statistical fail. Enjoy life while you have it. The after life is an invention after 700 BC when people were waking up to the fact that behaving in a moral way and worship in no way guaranteed any level of lack-of-suffering during life ... the priesthood had to retain control of the tard masses.

Originally posted by AcesAndNates
Bla bla. Reserve your moral high ground for the day of your death when you will meet not your maker, but nothingness... as you will cease to exist. I shall continue to jizz (err... produce orgasms) at whim for no other reason than "I feel like it". I pity the religious fanatics that gave the OP stars and flags.

It isn't a religious thing whether the OP is religious or not. I have books that have nothing to do with religion or new agey things that describe exactly what the OP said. They are books on quantum physics in fact, and describe a theory of everything that includes the non physical realities where only consciousness exists. I think that jacking off out of addiction isn't a good thing but there is no way of getting around doing it occasionally unless you like dealing with blueballs

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Please... provide titles, authors, ISBNs... this shall be amusing!

Originally posted by AcesAndNates
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Non-physical entities? What is that? There is nothing but the here and the now. Anything that can't be postulated through science and mathematics is nothing but a con-man's game. Aliens, statistical certainty, spirits, statistical fail. Enjoy life while you have it. The after life is an invention after 700 BC when people were waking up to the fact that behaving in a moral way and worship in no way guaranteed any level of lack-of-suffering during life ... the priesthood had to retain control of the tard masses.

Sounds like you need to do some real reading. Get all 3 Bob Monroe books and read them. Then before you decide whether to believe them or not, read Thomas Campbell's trilogy called My Big TOE(Theory of Everything). Thank me in a few months after you're done reading and then we can talk about true reality, not the mathematical simulation you're living in right now. If you want to spew talk about real science then read a real science book by someone who has experienced true reality and includes the one ingredient that everyone else, including Einstein, has always missed and failed to explain reality because of it. I feel as sorry for people that have no clue and think there is 'blackness' after death than the religious nuts who live on blind faith and fairy tales.

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I would never give money to Bob Monroe or his estate... apparent charlatan. I get my snake oil down the street from the local drug dealer.

1+1=3?

Originally posted by AcesAndNates
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Non-physical entities? What is that? There is nothing but the here and the now. Anything that can't be postulated through science and mathematics is nothing but a con-man's game. Aliens, statistical certainty, spirits, statistical fail. Enjoy life while you have it. The after life is an invention after 700 BC when people were waking up to the fact that behaving in a moral way and worship in no way guaranteed any level of lack-of-suffering during life ... the priesthood had to retain control of the tard masses.

You can say you don't think anything of the sort exists.. but, you cannot state it as a fact.

And if you have had no direct experience of these things then you have no justification to argue your opinion as fact.

Life after life was always an accepted part of things well before the date you mentioned.. the Egyptians spoke about it in detail in their Book of the dead, before that tribes and clans had a deeper connection to the world of the non-physical than we currently have and so also understood that the body may fail and rot, but the essence lives on elsewhwere.

The "tard masses"?? What's that? Is that youth-speak for Retard? If so, man you have some way to go in life to gather any sort of Empathy for humanity. Hope you do well with that.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
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What if I masturbate lovingly?

Hahah I was thinking the same thing. I rarely masturbate (2 or 3 times a month at most) because my wife and I have a very healthy sex life but when I do it is generally to people who I can somehow link to and are attracted to in some way.. I do believe there is a ton of negative and even "demonic" porno on the internet and I do believe completely that entities that feed on negative energy are drawn to deviant sexual behavior more than any other type of deviant behavior.

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disillusioned is right. if you take the time to open your 3rd eye.. or REAL eye then you will see these things everywhere. Go buy a cat right now and watch it grow. Watch it when you masturbate.. what does the cat do? You can learn all about the unseen through that animal.

Originally posted by kylioneXsushi
You even ignore your own avatar! Wouldn't 0 self orgasms be an extreme, and therefor WORNG. Do not indulge in extremes of any nature. It is bad for your energy.
Also, I would say (Here's a little secret) that girls contribute to your idea of "evil" more than men. because when we have sex with a man, we BETTER get ourselves off, because the man isn't going to do it for us.

Unless he is awesome.

...You mean unless you are in love.

When you understand what I mean by this, than you will also understand what the OP is saying. Until then, no one can tell you. It must be experienced.

I am very fortunate, I realize that. I would have argued against this just a few short years ago.