Let's Get Organized

Originally posted by Elostone
I have wanted to connect also, and have wished there were some way of doing it that did not attract the attention of TPTB/authorities.
We must be very careful of connecting with strangers whose backgrounds we dont know...
I would not be surprised if some LEO Official saw this sort of thing as a threat, militia, cult, whatever and authorized something that turns out tragic.
Call me paranoid if you like, but that has always been in the back of my mind in regards to this sort of thing

Peace

Great point..But even though the Constitution is limping right now we still have the right to peaceful assembly,There is nothing wrong with like minded people storing to help each other out in a crisis.But on the other hand if to much is spread your place could be confiscated for goods by the you now who..Kind of a catch 22 thanks for the heads up

S&F OK, so, I've thought about this same scenario multiple times, for some time now here's my thoughts..

There are multiple scenarios that are on the surface right now that may or may not come to pass and depending on the scenario, will call forth different action plan(s) will have to take place..

~Martial Law ( this in itself would be my SHTF worse case)

The following guide will help you plan, prepare, and get ready in the event that martial law threatens you safety and well being. It is divided into two parts. The first part describes the framework for martial law and the second part the actions to take in preparing for the actual declaration of martial law.

INTERESTING FACTS

* Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.
* Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.
* Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.
* Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.
* Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.
* Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.
* Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.
* Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."
* Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.
* Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
* Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.
* Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.

SURVIVING MARTIAL LAW

* Prepare before any declaration of martial law by becoming self reliant. You may become subject to a bureaucratic system and be prepared to stay one step ahead of it which is easy to do if you are prepared and in a position to be self reliant. You may also face mob rule, chaos, panic, or a complete breakdown in law and order. Surival situations may be easier to handle in rural areas than urban.
* Avoid areas of marital law. Can be imposed due to natural disasters or man caused events. Important to have a retreat or place in a rural area away from populated areas.
* Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation.
* Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
* Remain calm! Do not panic.
* Avoid areas of civil unrest if possible. If caught in civil unrest take appropriate action.
* Get informed and stay informed. Understand martial law can be a temporary crisis or an extended one. In extreme cases the shape of a whole nation can change.
* Declaration of martial law means your rights are suspended and it is government by decree. Your constitutional rights may no longer apply. This could mean a state of National Emergency.
* People can be arrested and imprisoned indefinitely without charges.
* Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly can be suspended, and censorship of the media imposed.
* Gun ownership will also come under severe attack during marital law. We could see house to house searches by the military or National Guard looking for guns and seizing any they find along with stored food.
* Take a stand on issues and make a choice that fits your beliefs and the situation. Do you believe as Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Realize you may have some hard choices to make. Understand you may have to sacrifice your principles on trivial matters or take a hard stand. Always remember that you may have to come back and fight another day.

Source

Natural Disasters~Major E-quake 8.0-10.0
Most communities will have CERT teams out, depending on which county(ies) you live in, anyone living in areas from rural areas to remote will MOST definitely have some sort of plan, esp. if they are on City water & power.

MAJOR RIOTS (50-90% of city population)
~If a city has 100,000 population, just 20% is BAD
for example


METEOR STRIKE (depending on location)
~Martial Law WILL be declared..

reply to post by Komodo


Great Info My Man

Originally posted by alchemist2012
reply to post by Komodo

 

Great Info My Man

thanks..

I personally think communication will be key in any situation .. my issue is, i know someone that understands the gravity of the situation.. but, his wife isn't he's not prep'd to bug out.. ;((

Currently living in ..Forest Grove OR

U2U me if your near

Originally posted by Komodo

Originally posted by alchemist2012
reply to post by Komodo

 

Great Info My Man

thanks..

I personally think communication will be key in any situation .. my issue is, i know someone that understands the gravity of the situation.. but, his wife isn't he's not prep'd to bug out.. ;((

Currently living in ..Forest Grove OR

U2U me if your near

In the Denver area but theres a door open if u need 1

WHAT SCARES THE NWO THE MOST??-WHAT SCARES THE RICH ELETE MORE? WHAT SCARES THE GOVERNMENT MORE??? answer is in what they are trying to destroy -UNIONS-MILITIAS-FREEDOM
We need an honest, country wide militia -union based on the rights in our constitution, One that collects dues to USE to end this takeover of human life--i would be sighning up thats for sure.

Is anybody setting up a website to do this? If so U2U me. Thanks.

For those interested, I have thrown something quick and dirty together. I am by no means a web designer. If a pro wants to do something better, by all means do so. If you want the site, U2U me. Thanks.

IMHO, this idea.. is a bad one. you're going to organize yourselves, and then discuss and plan it on the internet? so, when the storm troopers "come a knockin' " they know exactly who, what, when and where? i saw someone mention "militia". just to let you know, just associating with that word puts you under the federal microscope, especially in this day and age. don't get me wrong, i'm all for having a close knit groups of friends to band, survive and rebuild with, if necessary, when the SHTF. but, allowing absolute strangers to know the ins and outs of your group is.. well.. like i said... bad.

Originally posted by notsofast
IMHO, this idea.. is a bad one. you're going to organize yourselves, and then discuss and plan it on the internet? so, when the storm troopers "come a knockin' " they know exactly who, what, when and where? i saw someone mention "militia". just to let you know, just associating with that word puts you under the federal microscope, especially in this day and age. don't get me wrong, i'm all for having a close knit groups of friends to band, survive and rebuild with, if necessary, when the SHTF. but, allowing absolute strangers to know the ins and outs of your group is.. well.. like i said... bad. [/quote

Your point is understood but there is no deep seeded plant to overthrow or talk of overthrowing anything just a group of like minded folks who want to survive with nothing to hide

reply to post by notsofast


This is not about a "militia". This is about a community, a group of like minded people.

get a shortwave hand crank emergency radio. Get your radio license and start making friends around the world.

Originally posted by alchemist2012

Originally posted by notsofast

Your point is understood but there is no deep seeded plant to overthrow or talk of overthrowing anything just a group of like minded folks who want to survive with nothing to hide

a group of like minded individuals who will openly discuss stockpiling food, survival gear and weapons. have you read the patriot act? have you read any of the new materials released citing who may and may not be a domestic terrorist? survivalists and gun owners are placed in that group of potentials.

hey, do what you want, but don't think they won't use every dirty little trick in the book to pick up you or anyone else, when the SHTF, just to keep their choke hold.

reply to post by sonofliberty1776


regardless of whether you're talking about a militia or not, refer to my above post about the patriot act. you guys have to remember you don't know each other. like i said before, it's one thing to have a group of close friends you've known for years, who you know you can count on and don't have to "plan" with. it's another to intentionally search out strangers for the same purpose. i'm putting this out there for YOUR protection and well being, not mine. it's know the fbi trolls websites looking for patsies. it's known the feds and local police use agents provocateurs. like i said above, do what ya want.

reply to post by notsofast

As far as that goes, I am already on any such list. I am a combat vet and ex EOD. If I am not on their "list", then there is no list.

reply to post by jnyblujns

I'm afraid that you are seeing a rosy romanticised vision of the world when it finally goes t*ts up.Whilst i'm sure that most of us would wish this ideal to be the case,everyone operating in a sprit of selfless co-operation etc,I believe that our natural instincts will overule any altruistic leanings that we may think we posess.It's pretty easy to imagine such an idealised vision when we are in a position of relative safety and comfort.When the food is running low and you are cold and ill/injured,you won't give a damn about anyone else,friends included,you will most likely kill without blinking to ensure that you maintain whatever supplies you have been able to scavenge,relationships with others will be based permanently on suspicion and wariness,and the last thing that you would want to do would be to make contact with others from outside your "area".

reply to post by Dominus1


Im in with 30 yrs of trauma nursing ER nursing I have much to offer any survival community. Please include me in your discussions Im joining late here just finding this site please contact me. Im not very computer literate. Thank you so much.......Tam

reply to post by sonofliberty1776


How do I find this continued information. I have been searching and searching for help and a group to join up with.Can you help? I have information and experience worthy of the survival support. Thank you

reply to post by nake13


Your post was nearly my exact response upon first reading this thread, so thanks for saying it first!! That communal sort of survivalism is very nice to think about, but it's just not realistic. We're all just people (relatively) and we're all tend to be exceedingly selfish in any survival situation, even with our established friends and family.