Airspace

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by DIDtm
reply to post by hooper

 

FAIL.

How is anyone supposed to respond to an emergency if they are NOT contacted?

C'mon Hooper....youre smarter than that.....aren't you?

Huh? The idea is that even AFTER 9/11 controllers aren't screaming for fighters to scramble the moment a plane flies off course, loses radio contact, etc. The whole notion that there was some kind of stand down is therefore debunked. The idea that the USA has a blanket of security over the skies of the USA is debunked.

Youre failing at mentally registering what occurred.
If the controller doesnt follow protocol, how can the next line of action be taken?

Try to get this through your head.
Its pretty simple.

If authorities are NOT notified, authorities canNOT respond.

GET IT?

reply to post by DIDtm

Youre failing at mentally registering what occurred.
If the controller doesnt follow protocol, how can the next line of action be taken?

Please show where the controller was suspended because because he didn't follow your imaginary "protocol".

Originally posted by DIDtm
If authorities are NOT notified, authorities canNOT respond.

GET IT?

Yea, I get it. Just like on 9/11 when the MOST time Air Defense had to respond was 9 minutes.

forums.randi.org...

I'm sure Hooper will thank you for proving the point of his thread. You're absolutely the greatest!

Most people who have invested time in real research into 911 know Randi.org is a disinformation website that only supports the OS of 911. That is why hooper would not post his OP source. There is nothing credible to back the OP, in my opinion this is a troll threads for bashing people who appose the OS and the OP.

Originally posted by impressme
Most people who have invested time in real research into 911 know Randi.org is a disinformation website that only supports the OS of 911. That is why hooper would not post his OP source. There is nothing credible to back the OP, in my opinion this is a troll threads for bashing people who appose the OS and the OP.

The source was an AP article posted in the Washington. C'mon this isn't ancient history - it just happened a few days ago, look it up anywhere you want. I posted the link but couldn't get the link to work. Are you actually daring to imply that the incident didn't happen because I didn't source a piece of news that was in every paper and on TV and radio? Please, talk about desperate, that's a pathetic argument at best.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by DIDtm

 

Youre failing at mentally registering what occurred.
If the controller doesnt follow protocol, how can the next line of action be taken?

Please show where the controller was suspended because because he didn't follow your imaginary "protocol".

Please show me where he DID.

Did you even read what you posted?

Originally posted by Reheat

Originally posted by DIDtm
If authorities are NOT notified, authorities canNOT respond.

GET IT?

Yea, I get it. Just like on 9/11 when the MOST time Air Defense had to respond was 9 minutes.

forums.randi.org...

I'm sure Hooper will thank you for proving the point of his thread. You're absolutely the greatest!

9 min? LMFAO.

You can't honestly believe that, can you?

The one thing I find as an absolute certainty. The people that believe the OS, lack common sense.
Although, only on this website, have I ran across people who believe the whole story. But there posts only confirm my statement.

Originally posted by DIDtm

Originally posted by Reheat

Originally posted by DIDtm
If authorities are NOT notified, authorities canNOT respond.

GET IT?

Yea, I get it. Just like on 9/11 when the MOST time Air Defense had to respond was 9 minutes.

forums.randi.org...

I'm sure Hooper will thank you for proving the point of his thread. You're absolutely the greatest!

9 min? LMFAO.

You can't honestly believe that, can you?

The one thing I find as an absolute certainty. The people that believe the OS, lack common sense.
Although, only on this website, have I ran across people who believe the whole story. But there posts only confirm my statement.

There are authenticated tapes to prove it. What do you have besides incredulity? Nothing.

reply to post by hooper

I posted the link but couldn't get the link to work. Are you actually daring to imply that the incident didn't happen because I didn't source a piece of news that was in every paper and on TV and radio?

No, what is pathetic is you using “Randi.org website,” at least we all know where you get your debunking garbage from.

Please, talk about desperate, that's a pathetic argument at best.

What is so “desperate” about it?

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by kaya82

 

The unresponsive plane wasnt off course tho and two other planes hadnt just hit the two most iconic buildings in new york

Yes they had, this was after 9/11. Still don't go chasing after every errant flight. Never did. So the myth that there was a stand down is heretofore busted.

Wow you think you have cracked 9/11 with this little piece of info try again! You deniers aint fooling no one. You aint changing no ones mind regarding this blatant false flag op

Actually there isn't anything to "crack". Except for a few forums like this the subject is complete. 10 years now.

You continue to try and degrade any one who doesnt lap up your corrupt governments lies and it just makes you look silly

If you think I look silly, well, I just consider the source.

Still havnt explained why wtc 7 collapsed with no plane impact and MINIMAL fires blah blah blah

Yeah, they have. Its over. Can't force it into your cranium though.

Get a life let us believe what we want doesnt affect ur life does it?

Well, that's a nice sentiment if I thought it would just all go gently into that good night. However, young people, too young on 9/11 may go on the internet to find out about so I don't like the idea that this stuff just stands alone unchallenged. Don't want anyone to think that there are just "differing opinions" about what happened on 9/11.

Errr yeah i know it was after 9/11 but this irrelavant incident your driviling on about is totally different when this private jet was unresponsive two other planes hadnt already crashed into buildings if they had atc should be scrambling jets to other unresponsive and off course jets.

Hahah so thats why you come on here to teach young kids about 9/11 funny even infants could realise it was an inside job but knock your self out you mustnt have anything better to do with your sad life thanks for the amusement tho its set me up for a pleasant day

Originally posted by impressme
reply to post by hooper

 

I posted the link but couldn't get the link to work. Are you actually daring to imply that the incident didn't happen because I didn't source a piece of news that was in every paper and on TV and radio?

No, what is pathetic is you using “Randi.org website,” at least we all know where you get your debunking garbage from.

Please, talk about desperate, that's a pathetic argument at best.

What is so “desperate” about it?

Where did I ever use randi.org as a reference????? I didn't, you're either too lazy to read the whole post or a liar.

reply to post by hooper


I would just say that the circumstances are a little different. On this day in Florida there wasn't 3 buildings taken down and the central nervous system of our defense wasn't attacked. So she probably didn't feel the panic or need to alert N.a.t.o. But definitely see your point, even after 911 they wouldn't be able to scramble a couple of F-35 Lightning 2's to get on the scene. But that morning was different, like the one dude said if we have all this money and everything else going into our defense and can't get a couple of fighters in the sky WHEN THE CHIPS are on the table then why have it? Plus there is nothing important in Florida anyway so she just assumed nothing bad was going to happen. I just don't understand how you don't think the Government is more "Uber" then you think they are? Do you not believe they keep things from us? And if you do ... to what extent does it go to? That's just my humble opinion.

Originally posted by DasGhost27
reply to post by hooper

 

I would just say that the circumstances are a little different. On this day in Florida there wasn't 3 buildings taken down and the central nervous system of our defense wasn't attacked. So she probably didn't feel the panic or need to alert N.a.t.o. But definitely see your point, even after 911 they wouldn't be able to scramble a couple of F-35 Lightning 2's to get on the scene. But that morning was different, like the one dude said if we have all this money and everything else going into our defense and can't get a couple of fighters in the sky WHEN THE CHIPS are on the table then why have it? Plus there is nothing important in Florida anyway so she just assumed nothing bad was going to happen. I just don't understand how you don't think the Government is more "Uber" then you think they are? Do you not believe they keep things from us? And if you do ... to what extent does it go to? That's just my humble opinion.

edit on 1-4-2011 by DasGhost27 because: (no reason given)

This post only needs a short reply to correct errors...

Why would anyone alert NATO? I would have thought anyone who knew anything about 9/11 would not confuse NORAD with NATO. Congratulations on displaying ignorance!

NATO = North Atlantic Treaty Organization
NORAD = North American Aerospace Defense Command

From what location would you expect F-35's to be launched? Answer = There are NONE operational. That aircraft is not expected to be operational until approximately 2018. Again, a display of profound ignorance!

reply to post by hooper

Where did I ever use randi.org as a reference????? I didn't, you're either too lazy to read the whole post or a liar.

The fact is you have in many 911 threads and if you deny it then you will be lying to yourself.

Would you care to prove me a liar? I didn’t think so.

“Randi.org website,” is a favorite disinfo website that many debunkers go to, it supplies the necessary tools in defending lies. The website has no business being used on ATS because most if, not all of it information is against the truth of 911. It’s a Trolls paradise

So what does all this have to do with the OP and airspace?

reply to post by impressme

The fact is you have in many 911 threads and if you deny it then you will be lying to yourself.

All my post are here, please search and find where I posted a link to randi.org. There are none and you are lying.

reply to post by hooper

All my post are here, please search and find where I posted a link to randi.org. There are none and you are lying.

Hooper, you have a history of using debunking websites as your sources and if you deny this then you are lying to everyone and yourself.

Originally posted by impressme
reply to post by hooper

 

All my post are here, please search and find where I posted a link to randi.org. There are none and you are lying.

Hooper, you have a history of using debunking websites as your sources and if you deny this then you are lying to everyone and yourself.

Again, please show your proof. All my posts are a matter of record on this site. Should be easy to do if its true. You said, quite specifically, that I referenced randi.org. Also, please show all my other linked references to "debunking websites".

Just admit your wrong.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by DIDtm

 

Youre failing at mentally registering what occurred.
If the controller doesnt follow protocol, how can the next line of action be taken?

Please show where the controller was suspended because because he didn't follow your imaginary "protocol".

Now flight controlers do not have a response protocol to follow to deal with astray aircraft either XD. Its all in your imagination

Seriously though, this isnt black magic if you want a good answer, get in toutch with somebody in the buisness, you probably wont trust anybody at 911pilotsfortruth, but it should be possible to get a hold of somebody on aviation forums who is in the buisness. He will be more informed than people who are not in the buisness.

What you dont need an expert for to tell you is that a case where somebody got suspended for a sloppy job is not the best pic to guess what the standard procedere is.

reply to post by Cassius666

Seriously though, this isnt black magic if you want a good answer, get in toutch with somebody in the buisness, you probably wont trust anybody at 911pilotsfortruth, but it should be possible to get a hold of somebody on aviation forums who is in the buisness. He will be more informed than people who are not in the buisness.

Uh, I don't need an answer. Its right there. That's what the article is about. Airraft out of radio contact for an hour and no fighter scramble. Never been the protocol.

Its right there. That's what the article is about. Airraft out of radio contact for an hour and no fighter scramble.

Anybody remember the Payne Strewart Learjet accident on October 25, 1999 (almost two years before 9/11)? Here is an article to refresh some people's memories.

www.wanttoknow.info...

Instead, according to an Air Force timeline, a series of military planes provided an emergency escort to the stricken Lear, beginning with a pair of F-16 Falcons from the Air National Guard at Tyndall Air Force Base, Fla., about 20 minutes after ground controllers lost contact.

Again, for those who may be a bit dense: military planes provided an emergency escort to the Learjet about 20 minutes after ground controllers lost contact.

Never been the protocol.

If there was no protocol, why were these Air Force jets escorting Stewart's Learjet only 20 minutes after losing communication with ground control?

Uh, I don't need an answer.

So first you make an irrelevant analogy and then compound it with not having a clue as to what you're talking about. Now I know why you "don't need an answer".