This is the Years 2015 The mayans where WRONG!!!

Originally posted by EvolEric
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Not trying to be mean...

but...

what part of

The Mayans didnt chisel 2012 on their calendar... The Mayan calender is based on astrological events not dates... So it doesnt matter what year it is... cos the events the Calendar "predict" is still on course to happen... whatever they may be...

do you not understand?! The Gregorian Calendar and Mayan Calendar are not the same and have nada to do with each other...

You gave a good attempt... should have researched more... always research....

Yes but the date is not gonna be on 12 -21 -2012. or when every yall say.
if it did or does happen.
cause it is 2014 or 2015 that makes a difference.
en.wikipedia.org...
NASA has compared fears about 2012 with those about the approaching millennium in the late 1990s, suggesting that an adequate analysis should preclude fears of disaster.[7] None of the proposed alignments or formulas have been accepted by mainstream scholarship.
So basically nasa checked there star charts and observations...and there false.
Because they are wrong!!!
i am not trying to be mean either just telling the truth.

Even the Mayans calendar was off based on the fact there star charts was severely wrong by nasa standards.
If ya get my point.

reply to post by TheAmused


Your still trying to prove your point...

isnt it an Chinese proverb or something along those lines that goes something like this...

"You can not learn... your glass is already too fool ...I mean full...

...Your scared though... I understand what your doing... trying to debunk... so you can be at ease...its ok that your frightened... but don't be... what will be will be

Originally posted by TheAmused

Originally posted by whatifitweretrue
have you considered maybe the mayans knew that the dates would have been altered. Plus they dont state 2012 in their calender. Get your facts straight buddy.

Ok i am just gonna say this once cause yall are not grasping my point lol
en.wikipedia.org...

The 2012 phenomenon comprises a range of beliefs that cataclysmic or transformative events will occur on December 21, 2012,[1][2][3] which is said to be the end-date of a 5,125-year-long cycle in the Mayan Long Count calendar. Various astronomical alignments and numerological formulae related to this date have been proposed.

And there calender ends 2012 CORRECT?
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But the true date is of the calender is the year 2015 or 2014ish.

The year 2012 was giving by a scholar who translated it...the year 2012 was given based on our calendar.
The mayans calender when they was conquered had no idea of AD or jesus...So why would you think they they had AD590 or when ever they all died off?
They didnt they had there own calender....
The 2012 date was based on our calendar of there predictions...
and that time has past years ago...cause our calendar is wrong.

Do you not see the error yet?

There is no doom on 2012 so give it up lol

Sounds like this guy is just scared if the whole 2012 thing and is trying to prove something to himself in order to sleep better. Regardless we cant stop it and cant pretend it away although some of us try to and thats all this is. Unfortunately there is just to much proof of the Mayans being right and other sources to back them up.

Originally posted by EvolEric
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Your still trying to prove your point...

isnt it an Chinese proverb or something along those lines that goes something like this...

"You can not learn... your glass is already too fool ...I mean full...

...Your scared though... I understand what your doing... trying to debunk... so you can be at ease...its ok that your frightened... but don't be... what will be will be

Good call ....My thoughts exactly

Since when was the Mayan's wrong...

Source?

Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
Well, I can not say I believe there is going to be total destruction come the 2012 date. But as far as the Mayan people and their meticulous calculations, well I have to agree with the people making a point of the Mayan's astrological use in their observations. I see it as, you can have a length of rope, and no matter where you think it will end, the end of the rope will be the end ( I am talking more along the lines if you connected both ends of the rope, the cycle will begin againat that point. According to the astrological cycles and movements of the celestial bodies that we can currently observe, the Mayan calendar is still on course. But I am not an Astronomer, so don't take my word for it.

Nasa are experts right?
Best in the world....
They said logn ago the star charts of the mayans was WRONG....
so there for there entire prediction would have been shot in the head.
even if the had a day strait lol
en.wikipedia.org...

NASA has compared fears about 2012 with those about the approaching millennium in the late 1990s, suggesting that an adequate analysis should preclude fears of disaster.[7] None of the proposed alignments or formulas have been accepted by mainstream scholarship.

I trust nasa they say there proposed alignments are wrong then there wrong lol

Trust guys who wiped buts on leaves and ate other humans...Or trust nasa the guys who walked on the moon and got a rover on mars?
HMMM big HMMMMM here lol

I expect the date to shift continually as nothing happens on the date we're all supposed to be doomed. It's the only way the weak minded and retarded can justify believing.

Originally posted by EvolEric
Since when was the Mayan's wrong...

Source?

Did you not read nasa says in that wiki they checked the mayans star chart ...and they was wrong.
And no mainstream scientist or astronomer agree's with it lol
It says they disproved it in 1990.
Argue with nasa and wiki not me lol

Originally posted by TheAmused
www.theologyweb.com...

You can blame Dionysius Exiguus for that blunder. He was a 6th century monk who came up with the idea of redefining the year from the birth of Jesus (AD = Anno Domini) instead of the founding of Rome (AUC = Anno Urbis Condita). He knew that Jesus began His ministry shortly after John began his, in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius, around 783 AUC. Tiberius began ruling in AD 14, around 768 AUC, and that Jesus was about thirty years old (Luke 3:23) when He began His ministry. That would make Jesus to be born in 753 AUC, which is what Dionysius defined as 1 BC, specifically December 25. The New millennium began a week later, January 1, AD 1. The only problem is that Herod the Great died four years earlier, around 749 AUC. Luke says that Jesus was about 30 years old. Estimates are that Jesus was born anywhere from 6 BC to 4 BC. Jesus probably began His ministry around AD28. He would be anywhere from 31-33 years of age.

en.wikipedia.org...

Dionysius Exiguus (Dennis the Small, Dennis the Little or Dennis the Short, meaning humble) (c. 470 – c. 544) was a sixth century monk born in Scythia Minor, modern Dobruja shared by Romania and Bulgaria. He was a member of the Scythian monks community concentrated in Tomis, the major city of Scythia Minor. Dionysius is best-known as the inventor of the Anno Domini era, which is used to number the years of both the Gregorian calendar and the (Christianized) Julian calendar.

And he screw it up lol

So folks it is really around the year 2015 ....
So the myan calendar of the end of the world at 2012 would have happen3 years ago for us...around 2008 or so.

Just wanting to know how you can still but faith in the world ending predictions of mayans when the world should have ended in 2008 or so.

edit on 21-3-2011 by TheAmused because: (no reason given)

YES!! They finally moved it up!!!

I just made this, so it's a bit crude, but if I am not mistaken this is how I understand what others are agreeing on as far as the Mayan time line is not going to change.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/86d1137bd059.jpg[/atsimg]

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You trust NASA?

Arent they the ones who said Comet Elenin poses no threat... and then turns around and says... ohhh well we can't guarantee we wont get get...

come on! NASA is the group of idiots that spent how many millions on a "Space Pen" that can write in zero gravity... didnt they ever hear of a pencil...

Trusting NASA is like trusting a 2 year old with a gallon of gas and a book of matches... They both always end up blowing something up...

reply to post by TheAmused


Forget the Dates ok it has nothing to do with dates it has to do with cycles that repeat in our galaxy over and over the cycle's have been timed and dates added but regardless of dates there are planets which orbit stars which are in our galaxy which has its own cycles such as the precession and the mayans the egyptians knew ....

Originally posted by EvolEric
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Your still trying to prove your point...

isnt it an Chinese proverb or something along those lines that goes something like this...

"You can not learn... your glass is already too fool ...I mean full...

...Your scared though... I understand what your doing... trying to debunk... so you can be at ease...its ok that your frightened... but don't be... what will be will be

Naw i want this 2012 crap to end lol it makes good conspiracy people look like fool's.
Get ya tinfoil hats people 2012 coming and the mayans predicted it...
But wait jim its the year 2015 lol
That doesnt matter billybob..they mayans predicted in mayan time via the star's...
But wait jim nasa already said in 1990 that the star charts of the mayans was no good..as in they are wrong..
But billbob that doesnt matter the world will still end on 12-21-12 cause those numbers sound cool.
OH OK jim i get it now...
Are you selling a book billybob?

Mark my words 2012 will come via our calender now..
come 12-22-12 at 12am i will post and demand all you 2012 nutjobs make the longest running i am sorry i was a fool thread ever made on the internet.
cause for falling for this kinda stuff...
You need to write im sorry every day ina thread for the rest of ya life to show other people not to fall for this crap lol

If the world ends or your able to post demand i post im sorry to you lol.
i will say yep the mayans was right.
But i am telling ya i am wining this bet lol

reply to post by TheAmused


its not so much the mayan's that make me think the world could see catostrophic events in 2012, it is the actions of all world leaders and the things actually happening, i don't think we need a calender to come to that conclusion anymore (i do not believe the mayan calender meant the end, but even still).

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I trust nasa a million times more than cannibals who wiped there butt's on leaves.
If you dont you need to think hard on that lol

cannibals or nasa...hmm yeah the cannibals was right lol

nasa with billion dollar telescope's...or mayans with eyeballs?
Again a no brainer.
They didnt even know how to make eyegalss's much alone a telescope lol
thus why there star charts they used to predict all this crap is wrong man lol
ewwwwwwwwwwwww ...

Originally posted by Mandelbrot2012
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Forget the Dates ok it has nothing to do with dates it has to do with cycles that repeat in our galaxy over and over the cycle's have been timed and dates added but regardless of dates there are planets which orbit stars which are in our galaxy which has its own cycles such as the precession and the mayans the egyptians knew ....

That NASA said was was wrong in 1990 when they studied there star charts.
There false...
They was not accurate.
Date or cycle the mayans was wrong lol
cause they based everything on stars and cycles.
Can you not see my valid argument here lol

im going to bed i will debate replies tomorrow lol

Hey OP...

its okay... don't worry about it... what the hell does it matter who is right... or who is wrong...

Believe in who you want... if you seriously think that humans can get to the moon using duct tape and tin foil... then go for it...

I'll believe in a rock with eclipses and alignments on it, that HAS been PROVEN before I believe in a space agency that has lied to us... continues to lie to us...

Do I think we are all going to die a very horrible and painful death... YES I DO!!! no not really... the calendar starts over... just the end of a cycle...

in the end... why does it matter? what will be will be...

-I wash my hands of this

Wow, just wow.

Sorry, "The Mayans" weren't wrong...
nor were they right.
There is and never was any Mayan 2012 prophecy or prediction.
No lost knowledge, no ancient Mayan "wisdom."
What there was, is a new age hippy taking the Mayan creation myth and twisting it to attach it to the date the long count calendar supposedly begins its next cycle.

Hell,the two inner rings of the three calendar rings that make up the long count wasn't even invented by the Mayans. The Mayans, like most of the messo-american cultures in that region, borrowed the original two calendar rounds from the Olmecs. While these two, I believe, marked the passing of the hours of the day and the passing of the seasons; the Mayans developed the outer ring as a way to record the passage if time to be able to go back or forward to reference.
www.2012hoax.org...

TheAmused...

What you're not understanding is that the Mayans never said the year 2012. What they said was that 26,000 years till the next cycle is when their calendar stops.

So irrespective whether our calendar is off by 5 years or not, the point is that we are currently in the year 2011 using our calendar. And 26,000 years from the last Mayan cycle happens to end 2012 in the calendar we're currently using.

If we corrected our calendar tomorrow by the 5 years that we're supposedly off, Jesus born 5 years earlier, so that we're in the year 2016 right now, it would STILL mean that next year is the 26,000th year since the last cycle.

reply to post by TheAmused


Arguing you're self-absorbed fear won't make your argument significant in any way; you should have researched more before hand. The only people still ranting about the date "2012" itself are the mindless sheep herded by pop culture and MSM. The calender isn't based on a date, so those who know this are not concerned with the date in the first place, get over it. You can't really correlate the two trying to justify your fear and insecurity.