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Originally posted by Golithion
reply to post by nakiannunaki
Two more words: Fraternal party.
Bohemian grove is just a bunch of rich powerful business men, there is nothing there that you can't see on any college campus around the country. The only issue I have with the grove, is that it is not transparent. But what you have to understand is that if you are going to invite prominent world figures someplace you have to make them feel protected, and in this case comfortable. Oh and Nature Worship does not equal Satanism. To give you a better example of a leader and the occult look at Hitler and the SS, www.australianparanormalsociety.com...
That would have been a better debate then the Bohemian Grove. As a PS here is a partial list of 2010 members at the grove that I found while researching. www.scribd.com...edit on 3/6/1111 by Golithion because: (no reason given)
Since history began the truth has been hidden from us in order to control us. The fact is if one man has knowledge over you he can use that to control you and that knowledge and wisdom from the core of our histories rests with very powerful people.
There are so many conspiracies today that exist that to try and quantify them into one post would be impossible but we all know that behind many of them , if the breadcrumbs are followed far enough we end up many times in one place.. or for want of a better way of putting it, at the feet of one being.
Lucifer according to religion was a beautiful angel at the right hand of God Almighty. He didnt accept God's creation of man and set about to prove that man was not worthy of God's love. So God took this rebellion and sent Lucifer down to our earth to show him that this was in fact the case.
Since societies began we have been conditioned and controlled into accepting a reality based on the lies of this one being. He hides quietly behind the veils of power influencing the course of humanity. Only now his time is running out.
You can not fool all of the people all of the time and even if you try to fool the right ones you can not fool them all. Many of us have woken up and we see the trail of destruction and corruption and evil and greed that is evidently existent in our world. We question why? Why the countless deaths, the wars, the diseases, the famines, the lies, the control, the indoctrinations, the suffering and pain we have all been subjected to and we are begining to realise that this no longer needs to be the way.
Lucifer is losing his power.
This is why he has gone on the attack. This is why his efforts to bring his ultimate plan to fruition has begun to accelerate. Everything today is influenced by him. The satanic music we listen to, the destructive TV shows we watch, the alien and horror movies we go to, the raunchy clothes we wear, the poisoned foods we eat... you name it he has his hand in that pie. He has contaminated everything within our lives save nature and yet even then he tries to play with it and distort and control it.
The Illuminati, Secret Societies, The New world Order, The New Age Movement it is all part and parcel of the grand conspiracy of the ages. The coming staged rapture is already being preconditioned into us through a bombardment of media many are oblivious to. The world as we know it is in peril.. war, economic collapse, pole shifts etc etc
Many will become part of a global system at the cost of their freedom as a free thinking human being. They will be tagged and chipped and placed into a computer program that will manage all their lifes aspects and if anyone of us go against this system we will be erased and sectioned and quite possibally eliminated.
So who is really behind all this madness... i mean really?
Could it just be power hungry men or is there a real entity behind the scenes that many bow down to?
I want answers... i want the truth and i am tired of being misled.
Someone on ATS knows whats going on... and we all deserve to know the truth!
Originally posted by nakiannunaki
Everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions and i will respect those.
My point isn't wether this or that exists. I know my truths. I don't need them validated.
I am calling out those of you that know what is going on, that are part of the grand conspiracy and that have been participants and followers and have first hand experience of what is taking place all around the unsuspecting public.
I want to hear from those of you who are high up in the echelons of power that frequent this site not just those of you with opinions on the subject matter.
I see you don't be affriad to step forward and say what is in your heart.
Originally posted by SunTzu22
reply to post by vjr1113
Yes the same Lucifer that begged Abraham not to slaughter and burn his son on Moriah.
Now, what kind of evil incarnation would beg for somebody NOT to kill their only son??
The bringer of light, that is what Lucifer and Satan tranlate as. Seems like people made a mistake in who should be worshipped somewhere down the line.
Don't worry there are people who are waking up, it's only getting easier. S**t is pretty obvious if you ask me
Originally posted by vjr1113
Originally posted by nakiannunaki
reply to post by vjr1113
I never thought you would stop to be honest.
My point still stands.God does not tell anyone to kill anyone.. mans mind tells us what to think and as i stated above mans mind is ego/lucifer/light
If one just is, one does not think. If one does not think one can not commit murder, one simply exists.
"Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? Far be it from you to do such a thing - to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?"
- Abraham (Gen 18:23-25)
there, god orders the killing of people.
if you simply want to live, then why do you need a god?
26 The LORD said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes,
28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?” “If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?” He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?” He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?” He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
Originally posted by chancemusky
reply to post by OldCorp
I'll gladly side with the one who wouldn't tell me to kill my son, test or not.
Oh, and go back BEFORE the bible used those names....they were originally pagan god names, but simply given a bad connotation to give the church more followers.
Think of it this way: Youre kidnapped, and a man with a gun straps a bomb to you.He tells you to go out to a busy place and detonate. But another hostage is there, and says to not listen, to take out the gunmen with the bomb.
Which do you do?
Originally posted by nakiannunaki
reply to post by vjr1113
Prove that lucifer is gaining power or is it just easy to think and say so.
If you have knowledge lay it out on the table.
Originally posted by nakiannunaki
Seriously I am calling out all the Luciferians and Satanist that frequent this site.
What are you so affriad of disclosing to the rest of us? You don't think we are ready to hear what you have to say about your master and his plan for the world...
I know you're out there.
Originally posted by nakiannunaki
reply to post by SunTzu22
Thanks Sun I appreciate your efforts.
I will be honest and say i havnt actually read the book you refer to but i have read many books on religion and conspiracy enough to know they only lead to more questions.
I just want someone to step forward and tell it how it is. I know there are people on this site that know whats going on becuase of their direct involvement.
I want then to step forward and speak. I am honestly tired of reading and waiting.
Thanks all the same and yes i will probably check out the link you sent.
I want answers... i want the truth and i am tired of being misled.
Someone on ATS knows whats going on... and we all deserve to know the truth!
The corporate portion of the NWO is dominated by international bankers, oil barons and pharmaceutical cartels, as well as other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England, namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty - the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family - changed the name to Windsor in 1914), are high level players in the oligarchy which controls the upper strata of the NWO. The decision making nerve centers of this effort are in London (especially the City of London), Basel Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters).
The United Nations, along with all the agencies working under the UN umbrella, such as the World Health Organization (WHO), are full time players in this scheme. Similarly, NATO is a military tool of the NWO.
The leaders of all major industrial countries like the United States, England, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, etc. (members of the "G7/G8" ) are active and fully cooperative participants in this conspiracy. In this century, the degree of control exerted by the NWO has advanced to the point that only certain hand-picked individuals, who are groomed and selected are even eligible to become the prime minister or president of countries like England, Germany, or The United States. It didn't matter whether Bill Clinton or Bob Dole won the Presidency in 1996, the results would have been the same. Both men are playing on the same team for the same ball club. Anyone who isn't a team player is taken out: i.e. President Kennedy, Ali Bhutto (Pakistan) and Aldo Moro (Italy). More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also killed because they were either unwilling to go along with the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover agenda.
NWO & LUCIFER
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations