U.S. Army Prepares for Martial Law in United States

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

What disaster will be heading our way?
yes keep an eye on things,but who will you suggest?

There is a disaster around every corner that is lacking the match to the fuse, so its only a matter of time before we face another disaster of epic proportions.

All I am saying is for people to participate in Government. Listen to the info, but do some research to make sure the info is accurate, or lacking information. As we can see by the OP video, the info contained is technically accurate, but take so far out of context it presents a completely different situation.

Participate, voice your concerns, identify with the peoples representatives that closely shares your values, and be ever vigilant in what goes on around you.

Originally posted by antar
I think they have bipassed the whole one time shot Martial law in the bag deal and have decided to perpetuate it in a different way all together. It is the old frog in the pot scenario.

That may be the plan but I don't know that it will work out. The uproar over the TSA abuse and Homeland Security KGB is taking hold in the country. We are not boiling so easily at the airports.

reply to post by wonderworld


It isn't communism, it's totalitarianism. In communism, the idea is that the nations wealth is distributed equally amongst it's citizens, and as a socialist style of government, a range of social services are provided as well.

In totalitarianism, the government has all powers and grants rights to it's citizens at it's convenience. The citizens are servants of the governments will.

Our Constitution, bill of rights and Declaration of Independence suggest that our government was intended to be OUR servent. The documents directly express that the citizenry has a list of UNALIENABLE rights, non-negotiable, whether the sitting government likes it or not.

The States are also supposed to have all the rights and powers of a Nation, unto themselves. The Federal Government is supposed to be nothing but a manifestation of the will of the functionaly independant State Governments. Even military functions are supposed to be controlled by the States. Military units used to bare the name of their state. The Federal government is supposed to be very very tiny and have very minimal power to do anything other than talk, without the agreement of the states! That's why Congress has (had now...) the exclusive right to declare war.. State representitives vote!

The current form of the Federal government in and of itself is unconstitutional.

We are SO far from our intended functions. The scales have been completely rebalanced with the first, the states marginalized and now, they marginalizing the citizenry.

Conspiracy or not, the system HAS failed.

The system didnt fail, technically. the people who ran it failed* CEO's with greed on thier mind, influenced others in congress, including buying, the president of the united states. if it wasnt for them, wede all have a very moderate living. the rich have screwed it all up for us. in theory communism does work. i worked with a guy years ago, he was from romania. he would tell me bak in the 50' 6-'s 70's..KGB were all over the place, and you had to be careful what you said in public...it was common for someone to be taken away by the KGB and never come back. money was base on hwat you need to survive without overdoing it, jsut enough to get food, but not enough to bank it, grow interest or anything..so communism does have its trae offs. at least in capitalism, yuo have the option to make as much as you can. In demcoracy, CEO's would have no power over us, like they do now...so thas the difference.. democracy does work..its the people running it these days, that suck.

you know i keep hearing about the military police state and how it is coming and right around the corner.. i don't think we have the man power to cover every square inch of this country... state might declare marshall law in case of disasters but can you imagine how many troops would be needed to secure every city in the country..

i know the door has been opened... but i just think there is too much land to cover for a national lock down...

IF martial law was ever intorduced on us, the public i dont think its fair. Because its really all over wallstreet and the CEO's of the big bankers who screwed everything up for everyone, ya know? and then they have the nerve to wonder why were up in arms and pissed? they stole all our money, hired illegals, ransaked the federal reserved, raped the taxpayers, took yuor pensions, 401K, social security almost, and as a result,,were the ones whod be told to go home at 7 pm, or be shot, ect ect..while they would still be free to do as they please.
thats my view of the real reason martial law would be inposed. along with the jobs issues.being outsorced asia moslty, being canned so the CEO can make his extra million..thats why they fovor cheap labor. and the end result US the taxpayers under arrest

reply to post by Xcathdra


Ok, I apologize if my last post seemed a bit harsh but it was this line from your previous post that irritated me a little.
Also, I had a feeling you were a cop or something like that, my father was also a Cop in Dallas for 30 years and I can usually spot one.

Some of you guys are so delusionally paranoid its not even funny. Seeing conspiracies in everything, and sinister intentions around every corner. Some of you guys need to put the tinfoil hats back on to block out the Government signals broadcasting to your brains. Once the signals stop, think about what you are saying, and mabe apply some ocmmon sense.

I line my cap with heavy duty tinfoil, so Im safe and discreet. (joke)

To be honest, I didnt even watch the video, (Ive seen enough of them to know whats in them) I've just been commenting on the thread title.
So for clarification on my part, I never claimed and dont believe, that the Govt is going to come round us up at anytime and ship us off to FEMA or Labor Camps, not yet anyway.
What I say and believe is also based on my own research and observations (and im telling you there has been a huge shift in the way the LE handles things and people in the last 5 years)
This country is divided into 3 camps, the wealthy ( you know, the type that can get out of a felony coc aine rap with just a fine and then get a reality show)
The higher levels of Govt, Feds, State and some local, depending on the city (who can get out of more than that without even a fine, hell they can even fondle you or your kids in the name of safety) and the "rest of us" ( upon who the courts cut no slack what so ever, (most of the time)

Average citizens, like me, are under ever increasing scrutiny just to find employment, especially in my field (computers/networks).
For even the most basic IT job, i have to submit to credit checks, background checks and DMV reports and to get on at the NAS base here, I have to get a Security Clearance, which I didnt need when I worked there just a few short years ago and If it has anything to do with transportation, a TWIC card.

I have read about Law Enforcement raiding old mens barber shops in Florida, in full tactical gear. Youd think they were selling drugs or running guns right?
No, they were looking for barbers that were cutting hair without a license... In full tact gear? wow.
And, LE that raid farmers that are selling raw milk, in full tact gear? There are several more examples of this abusive of power but most of it doesnt make the so called "real news"

I know that in the past a cop wouldnt even draw his gun unless he was after a felony suspect.
Cops now take people to jail for things that they used to give warnings or citations for and
EVERYONE is looked upon with suspicion now days, by cops and civilians alike, score one for the
feds, they have created an atmosphere of fear in this country and they are taking full advantage of it.

I may not be a cop but I hung out with my Dad and his cop buddies for years and it doesnt take a genius to see that things have changed, for the worse.

Real ID
Iris Scans ( think NY is the Pilot for this)
Surveillance Cameras everywhere
Various Snitch Programs
Feds stalking peoples Facebook and Twitter pages (this too was confirmed btw)
And to top it off, if you want to fly, you and your kids can get felt up, FOR FREE

So, anyway, no hard feelings..

reply to post by Animatrix


No offense taken at all man... This is what these forums are for, to debate and share ideas in hopes we all walk away with information we did not have before.

The paranoid delusional comments was a blanket statement, so dont take offense to it. My point behind that is this thread - A video is posted, but no research was done to make sure the video was accurate. When people read the title of the thread, chances are they didnt watch the video, or they watched it but didnt bother to fact check what it was saying.

People on these forums accuse me of buying into the Government lies, hook line and sinker, while at the very same time they are buying into the conspiracy theories hook line and sinker.

We get all amped up when posts like this are made, going back and forth about what the Government can and cant do. What I fail to see are people who participate in the system (voting etc). When I asked why this occurs, the answers I got were along the lines of my vote does not count, I dont want the government to know where I live, nothing ever changes, up to the NWO controls the US and its elections, so why bother.

Its self defeating.

It's true, the gov doesn't have the man power to stand on every corner, but they could be in major cities with check points, they could dispatch teams to anywhere to detain citizens and they are already building the network of data streams that allows the to monitor the general population in pretty specific ways if they want.

It's just too much. I think it is of dire importance that we reverse the trend of government encroachment ASAP because it can't lead to anything good.

We either end up fighting it later, when the systems are so pervasive and entrenched that it is nearly impossible to even talk about the problem without being in danger or we end up in a dystopian, Hollywood style, police state.

We have warnings voiced and trends occurring that go back to the founding of our nation. If we look at the past and extrapolate from that, the destination point of our trends today, the suggestion would be that the expansionist government won't stop. It won't give us back the protections it took with the Patriot Act, it won't stop scanning us and groping us. It would appear that things have been and will continue to close up tighter and tighter.

That should horrify every American that believes in basic freedoms and the democratic process. Those things are being threatened gravely.

reply to post by Fiberx


In terms of the military comments this would be possible except for a few small issues. Namely Federal Military units fighting there way through National Guard units, Law Enforcement as well as militias and citizens who would make a stand.

I think we would severaly underestimate the citizens in this country by assuming they would roll over and allow it to happen. I think the Government is severely underestimating the citizen thinking deploying troops in the manner suggested

The American people seem to take a lot of guff before a backlash. I think the TSA issues are a clear sign of what could occurr if the Government thinks it could pull a coup and not be challenged.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Any uprising by citizens against the military units in this country would be fairly one sided toe to toe, in the military's favor of course, unless the military split into factions.. If they do, I call dibs on Fort Hood.

Other than that, the best option would be an insurgency, similar to what the Iraqis did for so many years.
There is only one problem with that scenario there arent nearly as many 155mm howitzer rounds just laying around this country to make IED's

reply to post by Animatrix


This is assuming that National Guard Units would not defend the States they belong to. This also assumes that the Federal Military would blindly carry out those orders. I would imagine there would be someone in the chain of command with some seblence of sanity that would go "uhm, no".

At one point or another it has happened in just about every single country there is.

I also think we are underestimating our military in the manner they are more intelligent than we are giving them credit for. I seriously doubt all member of the military would support a coup.

It bears watching of course, but I still think we are putting he cart before the horse.

everyone knows the governments out of control, why wait until the next thing to happen?
why must we always wait?
it makes absolutely no sense what so ever. the sooner they are destroyed the sooner this country can start over.

if we wait too long it will be too late

reply to post by Xcathdra


What would end up happening, if it ever did come to blows in this country and it lasted more than a few weeks, months or w/e , is that a UN force would come in to try to mediate things.
Of course this falls right in line with numerous scenarios that people have predicted that the NWO actually wants to happen.
Im sure that everyone here has seen the maps that they claim that the Illuminati has created, showing N. America divided up into sectors, with Russian forces in one, Chinese in another and so on.

Im not saying that i believe in all that but, it does seem like that our Govt just keeps pushing, like theyre trying to pick a fight.

reply to post by Animatrix


The maps the "NWO' uses, coincidentally, are along the same maps used back before the US sprea across the NOrth American Continent, showing control zone of Russia, Britain, France, Spain, Mexico etc etc.

I will also point out that even when the US appears to the rest of the World as disorganized and going at our owns throats, all that is put aside when an exteranl threat rears its head.

Its like the Chinese cicivl war. Theynhad no issues killing each other, until Japan invaded. Differences were set aside until after the ar, then they picked up where they left off.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Animatrix

 

The maps the "NWO' uses, coincidentally, are along the same maps used back before the US sprea across the NOrth American Continent, showing control zone of Russia, Britain, France, Spain, Mexico etc etc.

I hope you will not take offense if I ask what maps you are speaking of here? I have not seen them and I am curious.

reply to post by Cassandra5Finish


Its to late to hunt the maps down tonight, plus im playing modern warfare. google it

reply to post by Cassandra5Finish


The NWO, when it takes control of the US, has the US divided into different control regions for different countries. The paralell I am drawing is a map of the United States just prior to, and after the Louisiana Purchase, where the US (which was not us territory at the time, but eventually was added) with the 13 colonies, Spain controlling France, Louisiana purchae controled by France, Russia controlling Alakska, coming down as far south as Oregon, Britain, France and others controlling other areas along the West coast Southwest, midwest, South etc.

There was also a Russian writer a few years ago who wrote a book predicting the collapse of the United States due to financial collapse. In his book the US was split into 5 or 6 regions, with states assuming control over areas the FEds origionally had (international affairs etc).

This book only had the US breaking into regions, controlled by the states the regions formed, and not an outside control.

If you google and look enough you an find documents dating back to the early days of plans by different countries outlining invasion plans of the US, how it would occur, what areas were under what type of control etc.

Its the same plans the US has for Canada, Mexico and every other country on this planet. Just because they are a friend one day, doesnt mean they will be like that the next.

Edit to add:

Another intresting side note I forgot about is the talk about the FEMA Camps, and HR 645. Under HR 645 the US is divided into 10 zones, each with an active military base that can be used in times of mass disaster to assist the population. The conspiracy is they are in actuality concentration camps.

The Camps alone are not what trips the trigger on the NWO people, but the NWO predictions about the US. A NWO takeover of the US would result in 10 control zones, or the 10 horns of the beast.

Seziging on that language, and seeing the 10 control zones in HR 645, is how people are coming to the conclusion of a NWO takeover of the US.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Please forgive me but I do not see any maps in your post anywhere or any links to anything.
Am I missing something?

Originally posted by Animatrix
reply to post by Cassandra5Finish

 

Its to late to hunt the maps down tonight, plus im playing modern warfare. google it

The point of taking the time to respond to a question I did not ask you then is...?
It strikes me as odd that someone would bother to tell me they do not have anything to tell me.

reply to post by Cassandra5Finish

The point of taking the time to respond to a question I did not ask you then is...? It strikes me as odd that someone would bother to tell me they do not have anything to tell me.

Oh well, I saw my name in the quote and thought you were asking me.
And what I was telling you, was to learn how to use a search engine.