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Debt Plan Would Cut Taxes, Social Security, Medicare

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Business Week


A presidential commission’s leaders proposed a $3.8 trillion deficit-cutting plan that would cut Social Security and Medicare, reduce income-tax rates and eliminate tax breaks including the mortgage-interest deduction.

The co-chairmen of the panel appointed by President Barack Obama suggested reducing Social Security spending by raising the retirement age to 68 in about 2050 and 69 in about 2075. The plan also would slow the rate at which benefits grow. The savings would come between 2012 and 2020.

“This country’s out of money and we better start thinking,” said co-chairman Erskine Bowles. Without “tough choices,” he said, “we’re on the most predictable path toward an economic crisis that I can imagine.”

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The co-chairmen of President Barack Obama’s debt-reduction commission will propose cuts to Social Security and Medicare, as well as reductions in income tax rates in exchange for curbing tax breaks, according to a Republican aide who attended the meeting. The chairmen’s plan is already causing some Democrats and Republicans on the 18-member commission to balk. The plan will be announced at 1 p.m. Washington time today, said commission spokesman Fred Baldassaro. “This is not a package that I could support,” Representative Jan Schakowsky, an Illinois Democrat, said during a break in a private meeting by the commission. She said any package able to win 14 votes on the panel would have to look “very different” from the options being discussed.

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I believe even the repubs got scared with this proposal. A lot of ATS members are surely going to be happy with this. Isn't this precisely what a lot of right wingers want.. less and less social welfare program, stating that they're unconstitutional or socialism or whatever.

Won't say that I'm surprised by this at all though, it's necessary and I'm thrilled to see what the final proposal will be.



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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Glad to see that Obama is seriously considering spending cuts...but why decrease taxes?

We're in debt! You don't decrease revenue when you need to pay off debt. Hell, we have really low taxes already.

Repeal the upper bracket Bush tax cuts, that's $700 billion right there. Reinstate the estate tax, which only effects the wealthy as well.

We need to return to the Clinton tax policy, not the dangerous Bush policies of cutting taxes left and right.



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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My social security statement I received stated there will be no s.s when I retire. It stated a year. But I'm not sure of it. The paper work is at my other house, well. If they cut that all out. Then that means our sovereignty might as well be reinstated too. I'd rather have freedoms then handouts. Back n the day. People had their familys and neighbors. And were self accountable. But, when you really research the ss admin and all that goes into politics. This is a great thing to me. But the question is.. What are they REAllY tryin to pull off?



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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There is no way that's even close to being enough.

A 2 year age increase 40 years from now?

This country is going down the crapper in 6 months, not 40 years.


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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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This politic craps have the audacity to target the tax payer citizens while trying to fix the mess that they themselves with their crappy legislation and corrupted deals has created.

What in the hell is going on!!!!!!!!!!! and people back this piece of crap up with their "magic deals"!!! probably lobbied and wrote by those that are nothing but wasting this nation away in the private interest section.

Wake up people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this mother of crap had not problem bailing out the filthy rich and themselves in the process with tax payer money and gave us the tax payer and hard working Americans nothing but unemployment and the bill to pay for their own dirty mistakes

When people are going to understand that no politic crap is working for America anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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Sounds like a great plan, as we need to keep up the war on terror, keep giving israel billions, bailing out to big to fail bankers, tax breaks to companies that want to build outside the U.S, so on and so forth. So the only thing that makes sense is to get a little more blood out of the serfs of America.



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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Currently the Ponzi Scheme known as the Socialist Security system is underwater. That means there is more going out, than coming in.

Of course the money tree known as the treasury department is busy printing monopoly money so all is good.

Problem is, when you print monopoly money, the money has a vast problematic reaction, it tends to become worthless. You know, the whole Wiemar Republic thingy.

Oh well, I say print to your hearts content. Ol Berny Madoff was a cheeky fella, might just as well run the country based on his economic theories.



posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
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Glad to see that Obama is seriously considering spending cuts...but why decrease taxes?

We're in debt! You don't decrease revenue when you need to pay off debt. Hell, we have really low taxes already.

Repeal the upper bracket Bush tax cuts, that's $700 billion right there. Reinstate the estate tax, which only effects the wealthy as well.

We need to return to the Clinton tax policy, not the dangerous Bush policies of cutting taxes left and right.

You can't piss people off twice, if you 'take away' their benefit, you should definitely decrease the government 'income' too. And of course there are other political reasons.



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