Israel denied.

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I would like to tell you something I am not whining about anything here my friend so that assumption is wrong. Also Alex Jones is about as reliable as a rock. This man doesn't research much on his own and I know that true. I can say that because he showed this during the FEMA coffins in Ga.If he would have done some research he would have found out the truth, but he didn't and he also said he knows for sure that these FEMA coffins and he has paperwork to back it up. That was a pure lie, because these things were never sold to FEMA or any gov't entity. So you see he is not a real reliable source for anything. If you want to believe what he is saying good for you.

Comparison of rocket damage to Israel and rocket damage from Israel.

One side shoots two hundred dollar home made in your garage rockets. The other shoots million dollar made in the USA's finest munitions factory rockets. Who is David and who is Goliath?

Originally posted by groingrinder
Comparison of rocket damage to Israel and rocket damage from Israel.

One side shoots two hundred dollar home made in your garage rockets. The other shoots million dollar made in the USA's finest munitions factory rockets. Who is David and who is Goliath?

Junstfying THOUSANDS of shots at ANYONE, HOPING to kill innocent civilians is not, somehow, offset by the cost of a missle.

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1 million civilians dead from iraqi regime change.

If you think a less developed nation with less advanced technology will fair better in a war you're acting silly.

When a nation wants to remove another government, it means removing all those who support that government, their armies, and the insurgents who will follow. Israel has a mandatory service to its citizens. Guess what that means for a war. It means they and their families get killed regardless. Zionist regime that over half the population there supports? That's half the population dead.


It's as simple as that.

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Iran has 1 nuke in 1 year. We have 1500. Excuse me while I laugh a little, but Iran would never pose a threat. Not to mention ICBMs are kind of obsolete. Sub missiles are the only effective way to nuke someone. By the time their subs got past the US fleets there, the Suez canal, and the Israeli fleet, Iran would already be a wasteland.

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OH Come On !! The Israeli's Love Playing The Victim Card !, It Gets Them
Sympathy From The Rest Of The World !! I Guess Your One Of Those Who
Only Get News From The MSM, To Bad !!!

Originally posted by downtown436I am so sick of hearing estimates on time frames for the bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities by people with hatred, and hypocrisy dripping from their teeth.

You mean like this?

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki called on the world's Muslims today to work to "erase" Israel, in the latest verbal attack by Tehran against the Jewish state.

And this?

His most notorious attack was in 2005 when he repeated another saying from Khomeini calling for Israel to be "wiped from the map".

And you wonder why Israel would be concerned about the people who are openly eager to destroy them becoming a nuclear state?

Originally posted by downtown436
I am really glad that the Iranian reactor is fueled.

I guess you are glad that the every nation in the middle east will want to go nuke as well.

Then I guess you are glad that Israel will probably increase (by tenfold) their nuclear arsenal and make the Samson option that much uglier. Oh and btw, if Iran can get nukes, I guess no one will complain if anyone else increases their own stockpile.

The middle east isn't some happy place filled with rainbows with the evil Israel spoiling things. The Islamic nations have been fighting each other for centuries. Stick nukes with governments that listen to crazy religious leaders and millions of people are going to die. Most of them will be Muslim. Many will be Iranian.

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source? MSM?

nice

didnt u know israel plants news?

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Just wanted to add something please.

Stoning of women is a "Judeo-Christian" concept. In Islamic texts, stoning was
for Men and Women. Which in any way is totally wrong, of course !

I feel strongly against this "barbaric" practice.

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Iran is now controlled by followers of the Ayatollah Khomeini who overthrew the Shah of Iran who had been a friend (some think puppet) to the United States. The Ayatollah Khomeini is who called America the Great Satan. The Ayatollah Khomeini has written a book which has been published in the muslim world. It is about jurisprudence amongst Muslims, which means Muslim men. Women are still treated as slaves in that part of the world. Iran is under the control of fundamentalists who are a threat to the life and structure of the USA, and who have said so...So why would anyone think that Iran is trustworthy with nuclear power? Understanding these complexities is not simple, but the simple truth is that Russia is a power that is making money from Iran, but is so weak that it will not probably support Iran when push comes to shove. Don't worry! The UN and others will be watching Iran like a hawk with such leadership as followers of the satanic person that of the Ayatollah Khomeini. His ideas are truly disturbing but they can be read and understood by all.

Read an article on his chapters at Uncoverage.net, March 15, 2010, under the link Ayatollah Khomeini...

No no, the Russian reactor is peaceful and well monitored. The issue of a Nuclear armed Iran is yet to unfold. If you want to voice your opposition to a war with Iran, now would be the time. I imagine the public opinion is being gauged at this time.

Given Irans record of using tens of thousands of children in human wave attacks. I can’t imagine why we would ever consider setting foot in Iran, or let Israel do the same. It is completely beyond me. Maybe if Iran had a history of aggression, but I don’t think they have started a war in 300 years. A war with Iran would be a war of attrition! I for one have no reason to wish mass death upon them.

A war with Iran could actually pave the way for the destruction of Israel. The world is already turning due to public outrage over the Palestinian stuff. What’s the outcome if it comes to light that Israel is stocking up on weapons that only benefit an army who sought to mow down thousands and not incur melted/overheated barrels and related failures? Or better yet, what about when they are forced to deal with waves of kids?

I think an attack on Iran will result in world war and I am certain that WWIII will have one end, the complete destruction of Israel and the crippling of the US!

If your international policy involves mowing down waves of children then you have no right to exist! I for one would never give legitimacy to a government that did this!

Mutually assured destruction is a term that Israel needs to take to heart. Iranians are a very proud people and will not submit to Israeli rule.


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Great point of view and I like the way you expressed it.... you should have a show in all seriousness.... I believe the United States is realizing they cannot control the middle east and please the israelis at the same time. Its a losing situation either way. Maybe the best thing to do is start concentrating on alternatives and not risk starting a war which will bring more resentment from bigger countries at the US. Imagine if the countries of the world imposed sanctions on the US and the axis of colonialism. lol fun times indeed.

I'm not really up to date with the iran nuke drama but I have a question. which other major countries are as concerned about irans nuclear reactor other than the US, Isreal, and maybe a few european nations I can think of. whats russias take, whats chinas take?

What I'm getting at is that neither russia or china are idiots. especially not china. if they are concerned too and it's not just placating speak to the US than we have a legit problem with the iran reactor. but if both those countries aren't really concerned than it's tacitly pointing out that it's a US/isreal thing and it's our skewed opinions and not that of the worlds. I'm pretty sure neither russia or china want anybody participating in nuclear bombardment anywhere near their countries. if they aren't concerned than we shouldn't be. if they are than we should be. if they aren't then it's a US, isreal bigotry toward other cultures in that region thing. if they are worried about iran than the concern of isreal and the US is honest. It's just that from my perspective it's another one of those "Iraqs got weapons of mass destruction, and wants to use them on the whole world" thing. except it's iran in the crosshairs this time.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
whats russias take, whats chinas take?

neither one of them cares if Iran goes nuclear.
Matter of fact Russkies are the ones supplying
the fuel for the reactor. And Russia is bypassing
UN Sanctions to do it.

Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
I think an attack on Iran will result in world war and I am certain that WWIII will have one end, the complete destruction of Israel and the crippling of the US!

[edit on 22-8-2010 by Donkey_Dean]

WWIII will be annihilation of 95% of the human population.

Iranian nukes are just a provocation. The nuke plant just puts a bull-eye on Iran, whether or not it is justified.

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Iran should never have had permission to build Nuclear facilities, they want to build there own bomb, they want to be responsible for the destruction of Israel.

Hamas attacked Israel first, they hide in schools and hospitals and when Israel fire back the left wing socialists come out en masse.

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So what you are saying is it is OK for Iran to execute women and children because Israel is bad? Thats sure how that sounds.

What is it about Iran fueling their reactor that makes you happy? Be specific. Why do you think they have that reactor if not for weapons. They don't need the electricity. They have the worlds wealth of Oil, giving them plenty of capability to draw power from it, more power then they would EVER EVER need. But yet they choose to enrich uranium and build reactors. There is 1 reason and 1 reason alone for doing this. No, they don't need that reactor for anything other then making weapons and stirring the bees nest with the west.

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I do not wish a war. I think if Israel or the west attacks Iran-- Like IRAN wants them to -- it will ignite the whole region if not the world. Remember, Iran wants the return of the 12th??? Imam, they want to Ignite a World War. Imadinnersalads own words. This a provocation. A bully who punches you in the groin repeatedly and says, "Whatcha gonna do, huh huh? Whatcha gonna do?" That what this whole reactor is about. Iran does not need it for power or for any other reason other then to propagate THEIR warmongering agenda.

People are so dang ready to jump on the I LOVE IRAN and MUSLIM side and demonize Israel for defending themselves. Wake up. Iran already said they would and will exterminate Israel, what would you do?

Islam is not a peaceful religion. Read The Prophet of Doom. Listen to Interviews of Muslims and Terrorists who have escaped. The peaceful Muslims ARE the extremists. The Warmongering Muslims are only Imitating Muhammad, like the Koran and other texts TELL THEM THEY MUST DO!

You all have it backwards.

The extremist Muslims are not the Terrorists, those are the Fundamentalists. The Extremist Muslims, are the peace loving ones. You see them all the time. The ones that don't want to kill you because your Jewish, Christian, American, White, Infidel. They just want to be left alone to practice in peace. Don't believe it, ask a "extremist Muslim" who he thinks the extremists are. The ones not following the Koran. What does Walid Shoebat have to say. He was a Terrorist until he found out he was being lied too.

Blah blah blah but the Bible says not to eat shell fish. Don't take the Bible out of Context. You can make any verse in the Bible say what you want it to say if you leave out the context and what was really being said and why.

Iran is pulling a fast one with this Reactor and China and Russia are lockedstep with them. Who made the reactor? Who is lobbying to get fuel for it. China and Russia. Gee isnt that great.

Something smells and it aint the Jews.

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Not likely. The US has anti ballistic missiles and Russia would not fire missiles. Because they have no reason to. China would probably just get angry but still not care. I doubt anybody would notice. The US would just be in a new war with many nations angry and not much money to pay for it. Russia would still open up power plants and get money out of even an occupied Iran because America doesn't care enough to go up with Russia.