Alright "drummers" what's the connection??

Drummers are first to arrive and last to leave. Mostly due to the nature of setting up and packing up the equipment.

This gives them a good view from two extremes of the event they are in. Maybe this is extended into the rest of their life and gives them a better view of things. Maybe this is why many go to forums such as this?

A drummer (Lucius from COG) gave me a DVD or two on various topics that everyone here would be familiar with. No idea if he's a member on ATS, though.

Originally posted by ixnay
Drummers are first to arrive and last to leave. Mostly due to the nature of setting up and packing up the equipment.

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Oh so agreed..
I had the majority of the sound equipment for years,.load the van,. get to the gig, unload, play all night
load the van then unload again at home,, while the other guys often just watched or spent the whole time
tuning..
of course till one day I lost it and told them to buy their own equipment and bring it with..now everyone helps.

Seems I'm the only one playing keys (piano, synths etc.), and some bass. Drummers are great though, they're giving the punch while the other musicians focus on the harmonics. In general, there is no instrument more important than others, you can leave them all out. But when bringing it down to a genre, off course, there are certain facts. Pop music (with all its genres) mainly focuses on strong harmonics and melodies (and chord progressions), that's what people remember. There is no stronger feeling to me than a,well placed modulation when going to the verse. Too bad these days it isn't usemuch anymore (could be the urban influence, same feeling from the beginning till the end of the song). Anyway, you can craft a song with superb technical rhythms, but the norm in society (pop) leaves little room for that.


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Yes with the ripping on the guitarist aside,.
I fully agree that the it is a collective requirement and effort for all
members to play their part or the wall of sound will have too many holes..

I am just doing a shameless bump because I wrote this thread years ago wondering why there are so many drummers on ATS, and if there might be some connection with drums and like-minded conspiratorial minded individuals! It's still true today, IMO, although the artists have now been divided by politics in a very sad way.

Before this thread was created, I played in a band that rarely even discussed politics. Now that I am not a person with socialistic "liberal" views, some of those old friends I had are like different people, completely transformed.... whom almost hate me now without actually saying it because I'm not all about the hive minded "Hollywood" way of thinking.. It's weird, but it's expected I guess.

It's a sad world, and barely anyone will read this by now...being so many years later, but it's kinda like a personal journal. Something I can refer to later. If anything else, it would be cool to see how many newcomers are also drummers, if they choose to comment that is.

a reply to: Wookiep

surprised no one has mentioned the curse.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

LOL ah yes... Feedback from the legendary "Spinal Tap" must not be ignored. You might be on to something. Thanks.

originally posted by: jokei
I'm a bassist and occasional banjo player,
Sorry.

And a virgin.

a reply to: Wookiep

Good bump.
seeing the first reply was by Woody gave me pause.
We had some rows but I do miss him.

a reply to: Wookiep

Don't know about conspiritorial mindset amongst drummers but there are those who quietly influence

Drummer Ced Sharpley previously had cult success with prog rockers DRUID who were signed to EMI and had appeared on ‘Old Grey Whistle Test’; his clean, dynamic drum breaks on ‘The Pleasure Principle’s tracks such as ‘Cars’, ‘Films’ and ‘Metal’ became very influential within the US Hip-Hop community.
www.electricityclub.co.uk...

Metal


Films


Cars

Have been a drummer most of my life and played in many bands.
The one thing that separates a good drummer from the chaff, is a developed sense of timing.
Sure, you need the chops and a mastery of the rudimentary rhythms, but sustained tempo and infrequent, well placed fills are the keys to synergy with a band. You are the clock, and vital to other serious musicians.

The solos and wild excursions are fine for the basement, but when you play out or record, they are the last things that make a drummer great. Even the best drummers, like Bonham, Pert, Colaiuta, Gadd... while capable of incredible solos, only use them in specific, well placed bars, and without interrupting the machine timing of the songs. It is an art of talent as well as extreme reservation.

As far as the plethora of drummers on ATS, I also think many are math majors. For some reason, most of the good drummers I have met are real good at math, and yes... many do read music!

a reply to: charlyv

Interesting you bring up math. My son has a major in math and is also a drummer (like me). However, I have never had the patience or interest for math myself. In fact, I never managed to go beyond algebra. Still, it's interesting you brought that up.

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: charlyv

Interesting you bring up math. My son has a major in math and is also a drummer (like me). However, I have never had the patience or interest for math myself. In fact, I never managed to go beyond algebra. Still, it's interesting you brought that up.

Well, odds have it that you are at least good with numbers! It is some kind of a synergistic duality I have noticed.

originally posted by: UmbraSumus
Bongos and congas for a few years .....

Question :

Why does everybody think they can play the drums after a few beers , they never attempt to pick up a guitar .......they always stagger towards my drums !

Nightmare .

There's a little Keith Moon in everyone.

I love drummers, good drummers. The gooder the betta.

As a bass/git player, I love playing with the full band at church coz that means Edgar is drumming!
lol, he rocks. Dude does it all too, git, keys, sings.

Usually I play bass when it's acoustic sets and it's fun but harder to fill in for the drum and bass, know what I mean?

I have digital live sample drums that I use to record with. Solid rhythm, always on time and my beer is never missing.

I wish I could play the drums.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
what do you call someone who hangs round with musicians?
A Drummer.

Christian Vander is God.

I can't see this tune with any other drumming.

Simon Phillips.

Maybe Billy Cobham could do it, lol.



Drummers do set the mood and drive and they can lift the whole band to another level.

I've seen lots of bands and therefore drummers, can't remember a crappy drummer in a pro band, tho.

originally posted by: teapot
a reply to: Wookiep

Don't know about conspiritorial mindset amongst drummers but there are those who quietly influence

Drummer Ced Sharpley previously had cult success with prog rockers DRUID who were signed to EMI and had appeared on ‘Old Grey Whistle Test’; his clean, dynamic drum breaks on ‘The Pleasure Principle’s tracks such as ‘Cars’, ‘Films’ and ‘Metal’ became very influential within the US Hip-Hop community.
www.electricityclub.co.uk...

Metal

Films

Cars

That is great stuff.

I would say musicians in general are drawn to alt-anything paranormal or "cool", but its the drummers who want to create usernames with "drummer" in it and avatars with drummms bc they are so proud of their instrument.

(which they should be, its the biggest one)

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
what do you call someone who hangs round with musicians?
A Drummer.

Well, since you've opened the floodgates...

How can you tell ifthe stage iis level? The drummer drools out of both corners of his mouth...

I'm not a tubthumper, I'm even worse, I'm a DJ (and potential lead vocalist, I'm told).

Not sure what the colleration between drummers and ATS is though, I've seen more people talk about playing guitar than playing drums but I have also noticed a fair few people with drum in their username...

What do you call a drummer with half a brain?

Gifted...

I jest, some of my best friends are drummers, I save the most insulting jokes for them

originally posted by: 4003fireglo

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
what do you call someone who hangs round with musicians?
A Drummer.

Christian Vander is God.

While God thinks he's Buddy Rich :p