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Former Senator Nancy Schaefer murder-suicide or third party murder?

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posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 02:30 AM
Former Senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband Bruce have died from a single shot wound each. The deaths are being handled as 'murder-suicide'. Apparently the husband shot her in the back and then himself in the chest.

After listening to the first part of Alex Jones radio show (today's) he implies that the death was framed and most likely due to sensitive information Schaefer announced she was going to impart on Jones on air.


Please note question mark in topic denoting a question and not a statement.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 02:37 AM

- For those not familiar, the Senator was exposing government controlled child kidnapping rings.
- Daughter has gone on record to clarify that her father DID NOT have cancer. The MSM has suggested that finances and/or cancer were of pertinence to the murder-suicide.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:34 AM
It is tragic when someone dies, but when someone dies because of what they were about to reveal tells me that Nancy Schaefer knew something startling and serious which she was about to reveal on talk radio. "They" had to figure on her husband knowing all about it, thus he had to go as well. If anyone else, publishing or personal friends or associates know, then they are also in danger.

She was perhaps about to speak on the second most profitable criminal activity of the criminal federal government, second only to drug running and that is government sanctioned and protected child kidnapping operations that bring in billions in corrupt blood tainted dollars to those co-conspirators that pimp their services to a group of connected criminal pedophiles and hardcore Satanist and those that worship their dark lord Lucifer.

While the subject matter she postulated stemmed from abuse of children in CPS being sold to the highest bidder for many criminal actions and that bonuses existed for a certain sex, age, color of hair and eyes even certain blood types. While at first she and others were appalled to find that children in CPS custody were being sold into sex slave rings, pornographic circles, and even possibly to human organ harvesting types, but it was a darker and a more sinister secret that I am certain got her killed. While my speculation runs wild, I just know that I am probably more correct than not.

That darker sinister secret is the fact that many of the special order bonus children are sold and used by those that will torture and then will murder the child in some ritualistic blood sacrifice important to the true Satanist and those of the Cult of Lucifer. These specially chosen children pay a thousand times better than others because they get disposed of by those that are doing the ritual killing of innocent children.

While she had already historically revealed much of what was going on at the CPS level, she was bright enough to know how to find out just high the corruption went. I am certain she had already realized that there is a lot of greed and money in pedophilia, sex rings, the porn industry, snuff movies, human organ harvesting and Satanic ritual murder are all right up there with capital murder and the electric chair for anyone associated with these special criminals that hide behind National Security.

In that regard, the brotherhood of those demons that share and profit from the same crime, all have a reason to murder Nancy Schaefer and her husband for what she was about to reveal publicly. I am certain that by revealing just how high the corruption goes and who those elitist are at the upper echelons is exactly why she is now dead and we are left wondering who else knew what she knew that was new. Perhaps some staff member knows.

Lastly I would add that it is sad when those that know the truth are hunted down and murdered to hide dark secrets. I would be lying if I said that even this double murder does not surprise me because when it comes to dealing with demon vermin from hell that are inside the gates of Washington's highest circles you just always know they will show publicly just who mattered enough to send a death demon knocking on their front door with a suicide note just for her and her husband.

Thanks for the posting.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 03:36 AM
OMG !!!!
OMG !!!!!

Holy Crap, this sounds just like a CIA hit !!!!!

This very same scenario was in the Jason Bourne series

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 05:10 AM
I dunno about "child sacrifice" and snuff porn victims, but.....

I hope that this gets more attention. I don't expect we will find out the truth, though, honestly.

I wish she could have been a meaningful whistleblower.

Any chance AJ is sensationalizing the whole thing for his own gain? Can't trust that dirty rat....

EDIT: Typo.

[edit on 30-3-2010 by LostNemesis]

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:02 AM
reply to post by MaxBlack

Thanks for your insight and for fleshing this out. It would be earth-shattering to find out that this is truly how deep the rabbit hole goes.

reply to post by boondock-saint

Really? I didn't the books but which one and what character?

reply to post by LostNemesis

I follow infowars daily all taken with a pinch of salt. I'm open to the fact that is sensationalized to suit Jones' personal agenda. Nonetheless, something is up and I suspect their exists a grain of truth to all this.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:05 AM

A speech given by Nancy Schaefer on Child Protection Services:

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 07:26 AM
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the large ATS audience.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, most likely. There have been reports before by whistleblowers who ended up dead, even one investigative reporter and his son, who were killed when their small plane suddenly exploded and crashed, killing both on the way to a social event.

Search "Boystown, child abuse, Boystown coverup" and see what YOU find.

It makes this look more like a pair of murders than anyone would like to believe.
I hate child abusers. Hate them, hate them, hate them. As a lover of God and humanity, I think it's my duty, and I certainly will reserve any sympathy or understanding I possess for the victims, their mothers, fathers, and siblings.
Also, their future mates, who will have to deal with the twisted fallout from the abuse, torture, and perverted minds of these criminals.

Meanwhile, parents who even spank their kids are targeted and even charged for it by (who else?) child protective services.

A report released a couple of years ago identified DHR (child protective services) in our state as the single largest recipient of state funding, even as the agency cut 5500 state-funded daycare slots, which provide care for people who work and receive welfare or food stamps, in short, people who are honorably trying to do right by themselves, their kids, and their country.

Where's the accountability?

Please let me encourage anyone who is involved with one of these agencies and getting a raw deal to report them to the State-level head of their agencies. Each human resources agency has an office in the state capital and can be reported and investigated for abuses, incompetence, and simply lying to their "clients" while keeping their children in foster care or group homes, then making money off this through "counseling" or "family services" groups contracted to transport kids to visits, doctor appointments, etc. Everyone gets paid except the parent and the child.

It's a huge industry, and the abuse/kidnapping/trafficking angle seems to offer a motive, besides money alone, for these agencies to come up with charges to take people's children and then "hold" them like hostages, farming money out of the family's misfortunes.

In our state, a huge investigation made heads roll, and now that particular agency is under the microscope like never before. Things have definitely cooled off down there, and now every client, (food stamps or whatever) is given a huge questionnaire indicating the kind of service and respect given by each person involved in each case. This keeps the workers on their toes, a good first step.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 04:17 PM
reply to post by Copperflower

Thanks for all the information Copperflower. The truth, in this case, is stranger than fiction and theory.

They've come for the microbiologists, militia members, children and soon, the collective online conspiracy theory community.

I always thought that the NWO would be ushered in with a bang like a false flag attack, revolt or bio-warfare. Instead it's unfolding gradually before our eyes, gradually enough for just not to notice.

Here's a PDF document written by Nancy in 2007 regrading the protective services:

[edit on 30-3-2010 by rexusdiablos]

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 08:45 PM
reply to post by MaxBlack

Today I came across some information the Sen. Schaefer had just completed a documentary about the corruption of the CPS. When I say just completed I mean 5 days before her and her husband were killed! Do you have any knowledge of this documentary and if so could it of possibly revealed just how high up this scandal truly goes. Not just within the United States but even throughout the world? Did the people she was going reveal get wind of it and decide that she had to be stopped?

--Another note is that Sen. Schaefer had just returned from Washington D.C. the day before (thursday) and her husband returned home friday (the day of). According to the Habersham County Police Department Sen. Schaefer was shot in the back early friday, possibly while she was sleeping. Put the two together but I would imagine that Mr. Schaefer had at least a 3 hour drive home. Could he have really returned home that early? Well the police also stated that Mr. Schaefer died around 5-5:30. What if someone came in early friday, shot Sen. Schaefer while she was still asleep then waited until her husband returned, forced him to write a suicide note and numerous notes to family members? The Police also stated that he shot himself in the chest. I find that odd considering the majority of suicides involve fatal shots to the head.

--Lastly the police also stated that both were shot just once. I'm not expert but I would say that a single fatal shot to the back as well as to the chest would require a precision shot possibly by a professional marksman and not a 74 year old man.

You Decide!

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:15 PM
Please I beg every one to flag this. It is important the truth get out. Her death is a huge personal loss to myself. She was a wonderful asset to all of us who are constantly trying to expose the horrors of CPS. She was a wonderful woman who did so much for our cause.

Rest in Peace Nancy, we love you.

posted on Mar, 30 2010 @ 09:26 PM
Assassinated for information. Disgusting.

Such a beautiful world we live in, too bad it's run by the power-hungry elite who want everyone to suffer except themselves and their friends.

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 01:05 AM
Please support people who are being persecuted by these people unjustly. Good parents will become better if they stay in and fight, but they need support.

It is a special agony to have to cooperate with someone who is holding your child hostage, and calling YOU the enemy.

Meanwhile, who knows what happens while they have custody of other people's kids?

I don't believe in much, and that's a fact, but this kind of thing makes me believe more in lower-level conspiracies. I don't believe humanity is organized or cooperative enough to actively, intelligently conspire to do this, but I certainly can believe that it is, like so much else, a conspiracy of lowest-common-denominator workers who stay while better social workers flee on principle from state agencies, coupled with an appalling number of needy people and sheer hardheartedness.

Once the ball gets rolling with your child, who knows where it will end?

I had trouble personally with our agency over a simple accident, and let me tell you, that was nearly 10 years ago, my son and I still have separation anxiety, and my relationship with my daughter was completely ruined (ex capitalizing on my entanglement with these "officials").

My son and I are closer than ever, he's above average in every way, and a brilliant artist and talented chef. He's being trained to take over a restaurant, even as young as he is. A special person, like many other wonderful young people, who didn't get that way through abuse, neglect, or anything like that.

Perfect parent? That's a laugh. I couldn't protect him from child protective services, but cooperated fully, an innocent fool. That's the past...but some things have not recovered, like my daughter/his sister. He lost her, we both did, and now she will probably have dark doubts about me forever. I hope not. She's still my girl, and just like me in ways I am glad about, so things will balance out.

At least my child came home. So many don't. Please support people who are suffering unjustly this way, offer to testify in court, and be willing to get involved in their terrible pain. It may be your turn sooner than you would like to think, since more and more people get turned in for abusing their kids when the reporter has other motivations, like revenge or harassment.

Those cases can be disproven, usually, but they don't leave one's record, so this is a bullseye on the back of anyone with a child. Be careful who you let into your life, and trust your closest friends. The support they give, mentally, tangibly, every other kind, keeps parents strong and functioning.

Reach out, and you may help someone else stay or get on track while they still can. This battle is won by smiling at young moms, getting the door for a little kid or pregnant lady, nodding respectfully at a family man, and for God's sake just giving a flip about other humans.

Learn to love, while you still can. I am begging each and every one of you. Hold on and try harder while your family is still together, or still free from foster care, jail, and the grave.

Forgive God, even though He never did any wrong thing. Pray for your people and mine and everyone's needs as much as our own. Please.

If it keeps your child believing in you, it's worth it.

If your faith helps you hold it together even one more minute, that minute will be the decisive minute in your life, and will keep you when you would have surely been destroyed.

Personally, these agencies are destructors of families and of common sense and the welfare of kids period, except when they literally save someone's life.

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:09 AM
reply to post by rexusdiablos

Good post I recognize the good senator. It is from fight cps .com..

They offed her.... Please do find the material you mentioned...

Due to T&C I cant post my true feelings

Any way Seymore, exit music

Seymore that is not music...

****let me try again******

Seymore they will think I mean it for them...

****ok let me try again******

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 06:39 PM
Not one to bump a thread normally, even my own, but this needs a lot more attention.

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 08:48 PM
I have to admit that this is a subject that I normally do not follow very deeply, but on reading the posts in this thread it reminded me of some headlines that I had recently seen on UK specific websites that very much relates or ties into this story, i hope those that follow this subject matter find the following of interest;

Revealed: British Premier Gordon Brown Is A Paedophile
By Mike James in Germany – 28 February 2010

'Blair covering up paedophile scandal?'

Labour figures' bizarre link to paedophile groups
Immediate 22.00hrs Wednesday 20th June 2007

Hope they are of help to those that follow subject

edit to correct incorrect link

[edit on 31-3-2010 by ukWolf]

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 09:18 PM
Suicide gunshots to the chest are rare but not unheard of. Bares looking into for sure. S & F for bringing this out, I kinda pride myself on keeping up with politico stuff but this one....Went right by my radar!

Something about this just seems wrong here. MSM plants a reason then Daughter has to go on the record to clear it up. Nancy was going to divulge some type of information and all of a sudden she and her husband are dead.

[edit on 3/31/2010 by mikelee]

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 09:29 PM

(WSB Radio/AP) Investigators with the GBI and the Habersham County Sheriff's Department can't find any evidence that the husband of former State Senator Nancy Schaefer was suffering from a terminal illness when he shot her in the back and then killed himself in their Clarksville home.

Habersham County Sheriff Joel Terrell told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution "talking with the family, talking with the daughter who saw them about every other day, they didn't know anything about it (an illness)."

Bruce Schaefer, 74, shot Nancy Schaefer, 73, once in the back while she slept and then shot himself in the head. Investigators believe the murder-suicide occurred sometime Thursday night or Friday morning.

source WSB News

So, they were in bed and he all of a sudden turns and shoots her then offs himself with a shot to the head. Or was it the chest?

I wonder if their house was ransacked or even if the Investigators had the presence of mind to look into that at all? If I walked into that scene and saw both in bed with the wounds where it states they were, I'd be a little concerned that it wasn't right.

Nancy Schaefer, the former State Senator was killed with her husband on Friday. According to GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) official, both of them were shot to death when they were at their home.
Globe News

Inkling of the truth or cautious tale being spun?

[edit on 3/31/2010 by mikelee]

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 09:34 PM
Her Facebook page is here. Lots of interesting info too!!

They believe that the “murder suicide” theory is highly unlikely for any one of the following reasons:

1. It is totally against Nancy Schaefer’s consistently strong commitment to the sanctity of life principles that she has fought so valiantly to uphold;

2. Nancy and her husband, Bruce, have five children and more than a dozen grandchildren who they would not choose to leave behind so abruptly;

3. Bruce’s problem with cancer was corrected and under control so there was no reason to end his life as one senator tried to imply;

4. Nancy or Bruce would not likely agree to commit such an act that violates the fundamental principles of their Christian faith;

5. Bruce was retired and the couple did not appear to be in any type of dire financial crisis that would lead them to commit such acts;

6. Bruce and Nancy knew that her sister who had Alzheimer’s disease needed her to help take care of her;

7. Friends who knew the couple best state that Bruce would simply not have the capability to kill his wife;

8. Nancy was dedicated, as a national leader, to help needy people overcome abuse within Child Protective Services organizations;

9. Nancy was actively exposing corruption within the Department of Family & Child Services (DFCS) including actions by the DFCS director in the county where she lived.

10. Nancy knew that she was needed in the fight against child sex slave trafficking in Atlanta which has one of the highest activity rates in the country;

11. Bruce was highly supportive of Nancy’s work for decades and would have little or no reason to suddenly try to kill her at such a critical juncture in her career.
source: infowars

[edit on 3/31/2010 by mikelee]

[edit on 3/31/2010 by mikelee]

posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 09:55 PM
So we have one article that says he was shot in the head, another that say's shot in the chest, hmmm....
Lets just keep the people so confused on the facts that know one will go looking for the actual killer.

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