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Originally posted by December_Rain
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
I will take example of Gandhi. Earlier you stated Gandhi's salt march didnt brought freedom but armed struggle did. But you are forgetting non-violence movement had more impact in people. It had many more people supporting i, thru peacefull means such as boycott movement which hurted British. And in the end Britishers called Gandhi to discuss about freedom not the armed resistance. So impact of non-violence cannot be ruled out.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by XXXN3O
Many things sound wonderful on paper............an eye for an eye makes the world blind blah blah blah........ but we live in the REAL world where like I said people will kill you without hesitation for your shoes or a few dollars. In those instances yes if it's the difference between my life or the life of my child or wife I will defend myself to the fullest extent necessary. Murder is completely different than self defense. I suggest you learn that difference.
[edit on 20-1-2010 by Zosynspiracy]
Originally posted by Pewbert
>>Fight fire with fire and you will burst in to flames. You cannot just pretend to be as savage as the people you want to overthrow, overthrow them, then switch it off and rule peacefully because the reality is that you have become just as bad or worse.
I dont want to hear any more Ghandi crap.
Originally posted by The_Archangel
I dont want to hear any more Ghandi crap.
Is this becuase your mind is closed to anything other than violence?
Is this becuase you may have been one of the ones that profitted from having the whip hand over his brother?
Peaceful resistance is not a practice which is used by many due to the discipline it takes to carry it through. There will always be factions that seeks violence amongst the passive. Wolves amongst the sheep. You only have to look at the outbreaks of violence at the G8, etc where the mindless go on the rampage but this shouldnt mean that non-cooperation/non-violence methods are not sought after.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
You can count on one thing, one side at least will always resort to violence. The question is do you want to be a martyr or a murderer?
Very good!!! 5 stars
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
"Let no more innocent human lives be lost needlessly. "
And How many lost lives were needful in Iraq, Afghanistan, central America, Vietnam, Cambodia, Africa, kent state, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc etc etc etc etc...
Did you know: America invaded Canada, Mexico, Granada, the Philippines, Cuba, and others. And has deployed special armed forces or CIA into sovereign nations, in peace time, to commit murder, espionage, kidnapings, bombings, poisonings, and spread disinformation? This is just a partial list. Does this government fairly represent your wishes when they conduct themselves lawlessly?
The government needs to go....but it will only go violently.
Originally posted by regretable
Originally posted by The_Archangel
I dont want to hear any more Ghandi crap.
Is this becuase your mind is closed to anything other than violence?
Is this becuase you may have been one of the ones that profitted from having the whip hand over his brother?
Peaceful resistance is not a practice which is used by many due to the discipline it takes to carry it through. There will always be factions that seeks violence amongst the passive. Wolves amongst the sheep. You only have to look at the outbreaks of violence at the G8, etc where the mindless go on the rampage but this shouldnt mean that non-cooperation/non-violence methods are not sought after.
Face it, I'm a realist and you are an idiot wearing a collar. If you cannot contribute constructively you should retire your computer and turn your TV back on. There are plenty of soap operas there to help you not think so often.