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Originally posted by Blender
So some random wacko that tries to light a FIREWORK onboard a train validates the "war on terror" that takes more innocent lives than it saves?
Originally posted by Finalized
Stop paying attention to the "terrorists" and start paying attention to the treasonists.
Just to bring into the here and now. It apparently was some sort of firework intended to set off a larger explosion. It was a plane (you know, they fly).
I don't think most Americans will scoff at this threat. Perhaps they will scoff at the would-be terrorist, but not at his intent.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Blender
So some random wacko that tries to light a FIREWORK onboard a train validates the "war on terror" that takes more innocent lives than it saves?
Just to bring into the here and now. It apparently was some sort of firework intended to set off a larger explosion. It was a plane (you know, they fly).
This one incident doesn't justify the war on terror. It is a reminder that we (Americans) remain a target for terrorism on our home soil.
It is not clear yet as to just who this individual is, but "random wacko" really doesn't seem to be the case. He claims association with al Qaeda and he was on the terror radar already.
Maybe he was a random wacko, but he could have taken down an plane full of Americans on Christmas day.
I don't think most Americans will scoff at this threat. Perhaps they will scoff at the would-be terrorist, but not at his intent.
Originally posted by thedman
. . . .
Beggining to look like trial to see what could be smuggled on airline and if
could bring it down.
Despite what paranoid "false flag" nutcases are saying
Originally posted by Blender
Who said he attempted to bring down the plane?
The incident aboard Northwest Flight 253, an Airbus 330-300 carrying about 278 passengers, came as the plane was approaching the airport just before noon. It landed safely after the pilots declared an emergency.
online.wsj.com...
So it was a powder and liquid??? something that burns??? maybe Sodium and water
One U.S. intelligence official said the explosive device was a mix of powder and liquid. It failed when the passenger tried to detonate it.
"It sounded like a firecracker in a pillowcase," said Peter Smith, a traveler from the Netherlands. "First there was a pop, and then (there) was smoke."
Smith said a passenger sitting opposite the man climbed over people, went across the aisle and tried to restrain the man. Syed Jafri, another passenger, said he saw a glow and smelled smoke. Then, he said, "a young man behind me jumped on him."
"Next thing you know, there was a lot of panic," said Jafri. Smith said the heroic passenger appeared to have been burned.
Acetone peroxide is notable as a high explosive not containing nitrogen. This is one reason why it has become popular with terrorists,[6] as it can pass through scanners designed to detect nitrogenous explosives.[7]
Notable terrorist incidents
TATP is relatively easy to make and has been used in various terrorist acts.[10]
Richard Reid, targeted American Airlines Flight 63 with a bomb concealed in his shoe with a TATP trigger.
It is also believed that acetone peroxide was used as the explosive in the 7 July 2005 London bombings.[11]
On September 5, 2006, homemade TATP was found during the arrest of seven suspected terrorists in Vollsmose, a neighborhood in the Danish city Odense,[12]
On September 4, 2007, homemade TATP was found during the arrest of eight suspected Al-Qaeda collaborators in Copenhagen, Denmark.[13]
The 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot was a terrorist plot to detonate liquid explosives carried on board at least 10 airliners travelling from the United Kingdom to the United States and Canada.
A member of the French anti-speed camera group, Front national anti-radars (FNAR), was hospitalised after losing both hands to an accidental explosion of his bomb based on TATP. [14]
It is highly susceptible to heat, friction, and shock.
Originally posted by Heros_son
There are a couple of things that don't add up. The suspect was burned with a fire that supposedly came from a device that he tried to ignite. Well, if the device was intended to be a bomb of some sort, the fact that it flamed would indicate that it was of some material that was not being compressed as it was ignited. The fact that a passenger was able to douse him with water would indicate whatever was burning needed air as fuel (not chemically independent.)
If the effect was not intended to be an explosion, then it makes sense that it was not packaged in some way to utilize compression for lethal volatility, and that it wasn't a high explosive. However it was meant to be used as an incendiary, it certainly wasn't very big. Even a larger fire, at even 30,000 feet, would be extinguished easily before serious injury to very many. The flight attendants and/or passengers could have doused the flames pretty easily with extinguishers, given that the flames needed air to burn.
If it really was an attempted attack planned by a group, it was very poorly planned. If it were a test by some group, what would they be wanting to find out? How quickly passengers will react to a burning crotch? Not very useful info. If they wanted to test security, they wouldn't have had to try to use any type of device. That they got through, and seated on the plane would have given them the answer.
So what would be the point of this? Maybe just a guy with a bad plan, and a bad attitude, maybe even some psych problems makes more sense to me.
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Update From Fox.
www.foxnews.com...
Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported
Connection Reported by media fear mongering thus not confirmed by anyone.
Fox sure loves the word Al Qaeda all the time.
yupers sounds like a false flag.