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Originally posted by WTFover
Originally posted by baphomet420
...I was jumped by a gang of asians and stabbed several times (twice in the kidney, once in the stomach, twice in a lung, and several times in the head...
Just curious. Did you report the crime to the authorities?
...We had to pay approx $3,000 it was DECENT insurance...
If you made a criminal complaint, most states have some form of a "Crime Victims Compensation" program. It should reimburse most, if not all, of your out of pocket medical expenses. Check with your District Attorney's office.
I had to file bankruptcy to keep from being imprisoned once the medical facility filed charges against me for not being able to pay...
You can't be "imprisoned" for being unable to pay a bill. The medical facility can obtain a judgement, through civil proceedings, but not file criminal charges. If the collection agency rep told you that, they lied and you should report them to the state's Attorney General's office.
I still pay for medical insurance just incase SHTF...
When I get sick, I cannot go see a doctor..I cannot afford it..
I get no pain medication, no procedure to fix the problem, I just have to live with it...
Again. "Crime Victims Compensation". Check in to it.
Originally posted by Badgered1
reply to post by stereovoyaged
Agreed. I'm not knocking the US patriots, just those who would mindlessly follow their assumptions without the benefit of facts and perspective.
Originally posted by Terra Serranum
My wife's company just dropped their HMO, we can't afford the PPO which would be 50% higher so we're going with the HMO my work offers. It'll be $290 every two weeks for the family, the reason it's so "low" is because my employer pays for my portion of the insurance.
I had to change doctors cause the one I've had for the last 2 decades isn't covered, there are deductables, etc. Sadly that figure is about 20% of my paycheck, tell me why having free healthcare is a bad thing again?
Originally posted by Terra Serranum
My wife's company just dropped their HMO, we can't afford the PPO which would be 50% higher so we're going with the HMO my work offers. It'll be $290 every two weeks for the family, the reason it's so "low" is because my employer pays for my portion of the insurance.
I had to change doctors cause the one I've had for the last 2 decades isn't covered, there are deductables, etc. Sadly that figure is about 20% of my paycheck, tell me why having free healthcare is a bad thing again?
Originally posted by johnny2127
Originally posted by Terra Serranum
My wife's company just dropped their HMO, we can't afford the PPO which would be 50% higher so we're going with the HMO my work offers. It'll be $290 every two weeks for the family, the reason it's so "low" is because my employer pays for my portion of the insurance.
I had to change doctors cause the one I've had for the last 2 decades isn't covered, there are deductables, etc. Sadly that figure is about 20% of my paycheck, tell me why having free healthcare is a bad thing again?
Again, its not free! Geez, if we had Canada's system you would have at least 25% less in your paycheck at least from the higher taxes needed to pay for that system and the various others needed to support it.
You guys imagine that you'll have the same amount of money in your pocket, if not more, and then get free health care. Thats not how it works. First your taxes would sky rocket, and then the quality of your care goes down. Its not free people, open you eyes
Originally posted by stereovoyaged
I'm curious, what do you pay, per pay period for your taxes?? I dont mind sharing at all, this last check i grossed 988.86, was taxed 170.75 on that. I make a little over 25k per year and I pay about 4300 in taxes and will get a return on my tax return and not have to pay in
How does my crazy outragous overpriced canadian taxes stack up against the u.s
[edit on 11-12-2009 by stereovoyaged]
Originally posted by aristocrat2
Health care is not free, instead it simply results in stealing money from one person's wallet to give to another. As a Christain and a moral person, I know that it is utterly immoral to thieve from other people.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
We should consolidate the opinions that are posted in this thread.
1. Those who believe that everyone deserves to be healthy and should have healthcare when they are unwell.
2. Those who believe that if you do not earn enough money then you should spend your life being unwell, developing horrible complications and should end up dying.
Originally posted by WTFover
3. I will assume the second (of only two???) categories includes those who believe the current, proposed U.S. health care reform bills are only going to make the situation worse. However, know there are correctable problems (and want to correct them), while avoiding the expansion of entitlement programs, by supporting those who won't help themselves, not those who can't help themselves. And, know that it is not free.
Originally posted by WTFover
4. Those who want to repair the U.S. health care system and health insurance industry, without a massive expansion of government bureaucracies and funded by the current fraud and waste of our government, not by more pilfering of the taxpayers. And know that it is not free.
Originally posted by WTFover
I am infuriated, every time a liberal tries and fails to make everything so black and white. You want to ignore the obvious and create two categories that allow you to feel superior to others, by creating a target for you to demonize, when a real target does not exist.
Originally posted by WTFover
The misleading title of the thread is "Free Health Care is Awesome". No matter how you want to spin it, health care is not free and never will be.