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Originally posted by hardamber
The definition of being a chrstian is being "christ-like." Christians should be the epitomy of humiity, harmless as doves and clever as serpents. Christians should be quick to pray and slow to judge. Christians should not believe everyone who calls themselves a christian just to get their vote. If christians loved their enemies and prayed for them, they wouldn't have so many enemies.
OP, I don't know you but my first reaction in reading your post was that you should not be so angry. Be careful not to be manipulated by rich preachers. Be careful that you are personally grounded in Scripture and have a deep abiding relationship with your God. I hope you spend quality and quanity time in prayer and fellowship with your God. I'm sorry, but it did not come across in your post.
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
ATS has gone from being an open source forum about all topics of interest to people whinging about religion or crying about what a bad rap religion or religious sects are getting.
EVERYDAY there is a new thread about some religious debate or another and it FLAMES on and on with two sides taking aim at one another. starring and flagging. I know if i dont like it dont get involved and i agree there is nothing forcing me to participate. But im seeing an ugly trend here. I seriously think some people create inflammatory threads that are by their very nature sensitive subjects to be and that will garner a response based on emotion and not rational debate.
Before you know the thread is doing warp speed off topic as people throw barbs at one another and question each others sense of intelligence and ability to be logical. THIS IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE, This is a CONSPIRACY site not a " i want to talk about my feelings site"
AT best this is a RANT. At worst this is a cheap attempt to garner points. Regardless there seems to be alot of tension in this forum and all i see is people trying to out prove everybody else. What the hell happened to agree to disagree.
What the hell is happening to this site???
If you have a belief in a God, keep it to yourself.
Originally posted by PSUSA
reply to post by oliveoil
FACT: America is a Christian country and was founded on Christian Values.
Tell that to the Indians. And the slaves.
Yep, slavery is very Christian isn't it. The Bible even has a section on how you should treat your slaves - therefore the Christian god advocates slavery.
So to the OP - you must be FOR slavery then shouldn't you?
The OP does not like people with the right to free speech disagreeing with him.
How is this a topic relevant to this website
Originally posted by mikelee
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
ATS has gone from being an open source forum about all topics of interest to people whinging about religion or crying about what a bad rap religion or religious sects are getting.
EVERYDAY there is a new thread about some religious debate or another and it FLAMES on and on with two sides taking aim at one another. starring and flagging. I know if i dont like it dont get involved and i agree there is nothing forcing me to participate. But im seeing an ugly trend here. I seriously think some people create inflammatory threads that are by their very nature sensitive subjects to be and that will garner a response based on emotion and not rational debate.
Before you know the thread is doing warp speed off topic as people throw barbs at one another and question each others sense of intelligence and ability to be logical. THIS IS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE, This is a CONSPIRACY site not a " i want to talk about my feelings site"
AT best this is a RANT. At worst this is a cheap attempt to garner points. Regardless there seems to be alot of tension in this forum and all i see is people trying to out prove everybody else. What the hell happened to agree to disagree.
What the hell is happening to this site???
OK. I think the ATS Admin should make a section for these type of posters who come into a thread and ask "what the heck is wrong with ATS?" yada yada yada. If you don't want to participate in the thread or have anything to contibute in whicH relates DIRECTLY to the thread...Stay out of it. Pure & simple.
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reply to post by theonlyrusty
you said:If you have a belief in a God, keep it to yourself.
Throughout history religion has been successful at one thing; dividing humanity into fragments. This division creates hatred and conflicts, which ultimately leads to killing in the name of said religion.
Originally posted by oliveoil
FACT: America is a Christian country and was founded on Christian Values.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
I will lay off christianity once the giant spagetti monster religion also gets its own tax exempt church...
Christianity is a business, and the product is a guilt ridden destruction of personal spiritual connection.
America was also founded on slavery. We have since evolved from that, but we still cling to our superstitions.
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by skull_bones
you said:
Throughout history religion has been successful at one thing; dividing humanity into fragments. This division creates hatred and conflicts, which ultimately leads to killing in the name of said religion.
Jesus said: "I did not come to bring Peace, but a Sword" and also "the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
The division caused in the name of Christ is fulfillment of prophecy.
Originally posted by Agree2DisagreeAmerica was founded on greed. Hence the reason for Christianity turning to business.
Originally posted by oliveoil
I am addressing everyone and anyone who has problem against Christians.
First off when you say Christians, Who the H. E. double hockey sticks are you referring to?
There are over twenty two denominations and or sects and they are not all the same.
Second, What is your big problem anyway? Is it that we have faith and believe in Christ?
Is it that we Cloth the poor? Feed the Hungry? Comfort the sick?Help the homeless?
FACT: America is a Christian country and was founded on Christian Values.
Our national motto is IN GOD WE TRUST for crying out loud,Which in my opinion is undeniable PROOF that the United States government acknowledges that the God of the Christian Bible exists.
If you have a problem with Christians you have a problem with America. And God knows America does not need anymore problems. So please, just CHILL OUT !!
Mods:please feel free to post where you think appropriate.
Originally posted by oliveoil
I will try to respond to everyone the best I can.Please bare with me as my internet connect time is limited
hardamber,
The definition of being a chrstian is being "christ-like.
I am doing nothing wrong by getting mad. Jesus too sometimes got angry. Open your Bible to Mark 11 and read all about it.
im sorry...i wasn't aware that Jesus had that much time on his hands. You know running a printing press and all, pumping out a bible.
Oh...right...you mean those greeks who wrote the old gospels, 2 generations afterwards...
right...
ok so that bible your talking about
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
That's not what we're instructed to do. "No one lights a lamp and then covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed, but puts it on a lampstand so that those who come in can see the light. " We are to let our light shine through to bring glory to God.
Originally posted by aorAki
Oh Gad, there is no hope is there, as long as people keep believing this violent archaic and terrifying religious bulldust.
I despair.
Oh jeebust, save us, there is no hope whatsoever.
There is more to Christianity than America you know?
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[edit on 28-11-2009 by aorAki]