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Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
1) is the new proposed idea for health care supposed to be similar to the care here in Canada?
2) Why are so many people opposed to this type of health care?
Originally posted by endisnighe
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Canadian just wondering why we stupid Americans are so against the almighty government plan huh?
Do not feed the TROLLS PEOPLE!
edit to add-look at this person's posts it will give you an idea of their positions on everything
[edit on 11/9/2009 by endisnighe]
The average tax rate in Canada is much higher than in the United States. In Canada total tax and non-tax revenue for every level of government equals about 38.4% of GDP,[2] compared to the U.S. rate of 28.2%.[1]
Originally posted by crmanager
reply to post by devilishlyangelic23
I can go see any doctor i choose, go to any hospital I choose, and get help without having to pay.
This sentence alone shows your mentality. I believe that you really think this is free.
Doctors work for free. Drug companies work for free. Hospitals work for free.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by crmanager
reply to post by devilishlyangelic23
I can go see any doctor i choose, go to any hospital I choose, and get help without having to pay.
This sentence alone shows your mentality. I believe that you really think this is free.
Doctors work for free. Drug companies work for free. Hospitals work for free.
The point...as you are well aware...is that you flash your card and it's done. No second mortgage on your house, no fear of medical costs driving you bankrupt.. Sure...it's paid out of our taxes but our standard of living is at least as good as yours...barring those Hostesss "Real Fruit" Fruit Pies...mmmm.
Our system is not perfect, and as in all systems, sometimes scata simply happens.
But, we simply don't leave ours behind, so it's quite reasonable for the OP to wonder why you guys do.
Originally posted by crmanager
The basis of your post is that Americans DO leave ours behind....This idea that "No fear of medical cost driving you bankrupt" is fanciful at best. It is bankrupting your nation.
Originally posted by crmanager
The fact that you believe that removing profit is good is in fact offensive.
But, we simply don't leave ours behind, so it's quite reasonable for the OP to wonder why you guys do.
and I can agree with what JohnnyCanuck has said. $32 bucks out of pocket to cure cancer here. and THAT was for parking. thats the way it is. if we need medical help we get it...done. no questions asked. i guess i'll just never understand why other people wouldnt want that. to know that if you need help its there at no extra cost to you.
Originally posted by crmanager
reply to post by devilishlyangelic23
and I can agree with what JohnnyCanuck has said. $32 bucks out of pocket to cure cancer here. and THAT was for parking. thats the way it is. if we need medical help we get it...done. no questions asked. i guess i'll just never understand why other people wouldnt want that. to know that if you need help its there at no extra cost to you.
That is the point. You truly believe that CANCER was cured for a total cost of $32. SOMEONE PAID FOR YOUR MEDICINE. Other Canadians took time from their families, sweat and hungered so YOU were not financially inconvenienced. YOU took from others so YOUR life was eased.
How much could have been done with the staggering taxes taken from your nations people. Why couldn't YOU prepare for trouble? Why couldn't YOU have catastrophic insurance? Why must OTHERS pay for you?
And why have so many of your fellow citizens crossed the border to America to receive the care you were given so promptly and inexpensively? Why was the lack of expense NOT an issue to people who were in prompt need? You are Happy? Great. I am willing to forward a supposition...Many Canadians dispise paying YOUR medical bills.
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That is the point. You truly believe that CANCER was cured for a total cost of $32. SOMEONE PAID FOR YOUR MEDICINE. Other Canadians took time from their families, sweat and hungered so YOU were not financially inconvenienced. YOU took from others so YOUR life was eased.
How much could have been done with the staggering taxes taken from your nations people. Why couldn't YOU prepare for trouble? Why couldn't YOU have catastrophic insurance? Why must OTHERS pay for you?
And why have so many of your fellow citizens crossed the border to America to receive the care you were given so promptly and inexpensively? Why was the lack of expense NOT an issue to people who were in prompt need? You are Happy? Great. I am willing to forward a supposition...Many Canadians dispise paying YOUR medical bills.
Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
sure his cancer was cured by money collected from others. we know this. we are ok with this. because one day...the people who paid for us will need to have their procedure paid for. and we'll be the ones paying.
thats just the way it is...we help each other out. i guess that the mentalities in the countries are just too different to find some sort of understanding regarding this issue.