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Israeli forces threaten to break into Al-Aqsa Mosque

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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 11:39 AM

Israeli forces threaten to break into Al-Aqsa Mosque

Tension enveloped Jerusalem on Tuesday after Israeli military forces initiated threats of breaking into Al-Aqsa Mosque compound to force Muslim worshippers out.

The Israeli security authorities ended the siege of "Al-Haram Al-Sharif," at dawn, after Muslim worshippers refused to get out of the mosque, Palestinian sources said.

The Israelis threatened to resume blocking the gates and the walls of Al-Aqsa Mosque at a later time, the sources said.

Around 200 Palestinian worshippers have remained in the mosque since Saturday to prevent radical Jews from storming Al-Haram Al-Sharif on th
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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 11:39 AM
I haven't seen this article posted, but if it has been remove it.

Do you think this has to do with the temple or just a way to spark another battle? IMHO, this seems one way to start immediate fighting.

Also, what Jewish religious day was last week, that would require their need for the mound?
I've been trying to find links to American or European articles but as yet I'm unsuccessful I have found a few from other areas although.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:06 PM
Well some news sources out there say this is being deliberately done by Iran and Syria. Just trying to stir up a little unrest. They found a wheel barrow full of rocks the other day before anything ever happened so it looks like they were getting ready.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by princeofpeace

I haven't seen that, do you happen to remember where you found it? From what I have seen it had something to do with a blessing of the wall and people were prevented from entering the mosque.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:33 PM
I felt this was a good place to post this, I kind of knew some of this, but I can understand the anger of the other countries involved with the Israel conflict.

One cannot discuss the Arab-Israeli conflict without first examining the events leading up to the establishment of the State of Israel. These events will thus be discussed in this section.

Although Jews have, over the eighteen centuries since the Roman Exile, maintained a constant presence (albeit small) in the Land of Israel, the modern concept of Zionism - which led to the formation of the State of Israel - has its roots in nineteenth century Europe.
There, Jews experienced the political and scientific renaissance known as the Emancipation, which gave Jews the chance to break their general isolation from the day-to-day affairs of the countries in which they resided. Many Jews adopted the ethno-nationalist political ideology that was developing in Europe at the time and set up moshavim - communities which were financed largely by Baron Edmund de Rothschild of Paris - and socialist communes (called kibbutzim) in Israel, their ancient homeland.

The first wave of Jews who were so inclined arrived in Israel (then known as Palestine) in 1882, in what is known as the First Aliyah ("going up:" the way Jews describe their immigration to the Holy Land).

Throughout the first half of the twentieth century, Jewish immigration to Israel continued.
The climactic event of this period, however, took place not in Israel but rather in Nazi Germany, in which millions of Jews, forced to remain in Germany because they had nowhere else to go, perished in the Holocaust.

The Holocaust was such a powerful demonstration of Herzl’s reasons for setting up a Jewish country being taken to their logical extreme that that Jewish country, the State of Israel, was declared just three years following the end of World War II, on May 14, 1948.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:38 PM
I have been following this event from last few days but I still am unclear what's going out there. I will reserve my reply for this thread untill I get a better grasp of the ground realities taking place there.

It's lil' confusing for me because it somehow involves religion being a Mosque, and I personally don't care about or try to involve myself in any religion. Besides the religious aspect I'll try to look around what I can find.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 12:48 PM
reply to post by searching4truth

Also, what Jewish religious day was last week, that would require their need for the mound?

I'll have to look, but I think that the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) was last week. They would "need" the mount on that day more than all others because that is the day that a sacrifice was given so that God would forgive Israel's corporate (as opposed to individual) sins.

ETA: Yeah, last Sunday/Monday was the Day of Atonement.

In 2009 Yom Kippur (Jewish Day of Atonement) begins at sundown on Sunday September 27 and ends at nightfall on Monday September 28.


[edit on 10/8/2009 by octotom]

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:01 PM
reply to post by octotom

ahh thanks.

usually yom kippur is on my calender, but I didn't have anything listed. thanks again

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:21 PM
I think I have found my answer of what atually is happening just came upon this news artcle. It seems Israeli Govt. is running some excavation projects near (around and in) Al-Aqsa Mosque which threatens to destroy the Mosque reverred by Muslim's allover the world.

Now this balance has been disrupted and most of the archaeological research in Jerusalem is being driven by pressures from politically interested groups and individuals with the aim of "proving" our historical rights in the city or clearing an area for construction. The outcome is "fast archaeology" that satisfies the consumer's hunger but damages archaeological assets under Israel's responsibility.
The best archaeology, the kind practiced at the world's leading archaeological centers, is slow archaeology that gives excavators time to deepen their familiarity with each site's unique problems and digest the results of their actions so they can repair and improve. Every excavation is planned and documented destruction, so the destroyer has a great responsibility. Therefore, the most advanced archaeology is also transparent and open to criticism, undertaken in an atmosphere of openness. And here and now, in the Israel of 2009, the opposite is the case.

Much of the archaeology in the center of Jerusalem's "holy basin" is fast archaeology, swallowing up more than it is capable of digesting. It is no coincidence that the top archaeologists from this country's leading institutes are refraining from taking part in excavations in Jerusalem. I would not send my students to apprentice there.

This archaeology is being carried out under time pressure and is subordinate to the desires of landlords who are not scholars; usually these are religious, ideological or tourist organizations, or contractors. The work is carried out nonstop, without pause for researchers to understand their findings. Thus, for example, most of the Antiquities Authority's archaeological activities around the City of David's water system have been delegated to a duo of archaeologists who have not yet published a serious report on these excavations.

Moreover, for several years now, excavations in these areas have been carried out in tunnels in horizontal digs - contrary to every accepted practice. During the excavations, many tons of dirt are discarded along with a considerable part of their archaeological contents (and this comes as, with trumpet blasts, an expensive project is underway to sift dirt the Waqf is taking out of the Temple Mount). There is no external oversight of the excavators: The Antiquities Authority is both carrying out the work and supervising it.

Near the Western Wall, too, excavations have been completed recently that went on for three years without pause, and, for more than a year now, extensive excavations have been going on beneath the Western Wall tunnels in accordance with a demand by the Western Wall Heritage Foundation, a nonprofit organization.

These excavations are being carried out under secret agreements with the various authorities, without comprehensive planning and external oversight.

Taken from - Shallow and brutal archaeology

and this article explains why was there riot last week near that Mosque:

Fayyad's description of last Sunday's events bears no resemblance to Israel's version. According to senior Israeli officials, members of a right-wing Jewish organization did indeed declare their intent to ascend the mount on the morning of September 27, but police prevented them from even entering the Temple Mount compound.

The tensions reached a peak last Tuesday, when the Palestinians told several foreign embassies that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu intended to accompany right-wing activists to the East Jerusalem village of Silwan to dedicate a new tunnel.

In fact, Netanyahu was merely planning to treat his senior aides to dinner at a nearby restaurant - an event that was ultimately canceled due to a heavy work load. Nevertheless, both American officials in Washington and the U.S. Embassy in Israel contacted the Prime Minister's Office to demand explanations for the alleged tunnel dedication, while senior officials in Sweden's Foreign Ministry demanded similar explanations of Israel's ambassador in Stockholm.

Taken from : PA waging diplomatic war over Temple Mount
*Ascend means b : upward slope or rising grade
Simply meaning disturbing the original place of the sacred mound.(as beleived by people)

The archaeological excavations that the state is carrying out close to the Temple Mount, both in the Givati car-park and in El Wad Street, are generating immense concern among those who believe they are intended to cause the collapse of mosques. It is a belief nurtured by their intimate knowledge of the settlers who are conducting the excavations and the nationalist-Messianic agenda that motivates them. It may not be true, but in East Jerusalem even a feeling or a rumour can ignite a conflagration.

No wonder last week a Palestinian official said Israel is lighting a match.

as the PA Prime Minister stated:

Warning that the situation on the mount was flammable and could swiftly deteriorate, he added, "I remind you that this is where the Al-Aqsa Intifada began, after [Ariel] Sharon's visit" to the mount in September 2000. The Palestinians popular response stems from the Israeli aggression, and we are liable to lose control over events."

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:26 PM
In laymans word, Israel is conducting excavation around a Mosque which Palestinias fear will destroy the building. As the Haaretz aarticle said the excavation is done in agressive manner disregarding the Monument/building. That's why the rise in tension there.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 02:03 PM
reply to post by December_Rain

Yes, I have seen that. Based upon how the excavation has been carried out thus far, I doubt it was based upon structural concerns. I wonder if there was some sort of obstacle and they wanted to try getting around it from above or near the obstruction.

posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 02:21 PM
reply to post by searching4truth

I think it's both structural concern and attempted tries, if any, to move the mount which rose the tensions.

These structures are hundereds of years old and digging around them in such a rash manner will invoke justifiable anger and concern.

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