A President was killed the last time right-wing hatred ran wild like this

I don't remember in right wing extremist groups during the sixties.

Please provide some links to that information.

But,what I do remember from the last 8 years.

All from the liberal "entertainment" industry.

A cartoon series lampooning a sitting President.

A sitcom lampooning a sitting President.

A movie that portrayed the assassination of the sitting President.

My one clear memory as a young person is the demonstrations in Chicago during the Democratic convention.

The Democratic mayor called out the police to beat the hell out of the young liberal demonstrators.

I was 8 years old when the last President was killed.

As strange as it may seem,I distinctly thought that one man was responsible for and had a hand in his assassination.LBJ killed JFK

Extremist groups don't kill leaders of countries. Coups are usually carried out by groups that include both sides.

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I don't remember in right wing extremist groups during the sixties. Please provide some links to that information.

Just look up........ J. Edgar Hoover and maybe CoIntelPro or the KKK maybe, or the John Birtch Society.

Man, you haven't looked very hard, have you.

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If this is anything like 1963 the next question is who will the government frame for the assassination?

I've seen a lot of hate for Obama mainly created by ignorance about his religious tendencies and race. But since the election I think much of that ignorance has died down and now we're judging him from a more mature policy stand-point. Much of the right-wing hate is being falsely inflated by the media, after all that is their job, to divide and conquer. To keep us from seeing our common goals and similarities and to keep reminding us to distrust our neighbors and anyone who doesn't look, think, or act like us. And while we're distracted the puppeteers use both parties to get more wealth and power for themselves.

Enough of the right vs. left b.s.

We get bombarded with propaganda that one or the other has "radicals" waiting to kill the prez. Some nutcases are influenced and give it a go but can't get close.

Then it happens. And the previous propaganda comes into play.

Remember the "Communist friend of Castro killed our President so we should invade Cuba" idea that hardliners within the JFK administration liked so much?

Will that happen again? How about those "domestic terrorists" or those shifty "Tali-Paki imports"? Oh yeah. If it happens we'll find ourselves being pushed towards one thing or another.

Whatever happened to the Vietnam pull-out thing JFK signed? It was reversed by LBJ - A DAY BEFORE JFK WAS SHOT.

I'm saying keep your eyes on the plans of those skulking BEHIND Obama. He may be surprised at how forceful they can be should he decide to "pull a JFK" all of a sudden on them.

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It should also be noted that the last time a president was kill, the secret service wasn't very good at their job.

Now they are at the top of their game. I've heard plenty of stories of how thorough they are.

When Al Gore came here to speak 5-6 years ago, my dad saw them walking through the hospital, checking areas where people could hide, checking rooms, but ulitmately making sure they could clear a path very quickly.

If the president or vice president are injured during their term, I will be the first to claim it was an inside job.

The Dangerous Left-Wing Hatemongering from Media Matters

The left’s newest meme against anyone that disagrees with it is to say that all conservatives are “dangerous” to the county. It is said in leftist circles that anyone with a conservative viewpoint is only a hairsbreadth away from committing violence against the U.S.A., its government, and citizens. Because of this, the left claims, conservatives have somehow become dangerous. Sadly, these assumptions are exactly the sort of charge that they used to rail against conservative minded Americans for thinking of them. But introspection is not the sort of mood the extreme left is in today. Today they are in a fearmongering, hate-filled mode because for the first time in a generation they have the taste of power in their mouths. They are the ones in a position to say what should or should not be done as a matter of policy. They’ve become “the man.” Let us savor the irony of all this, shall we? The left used to bemoan that they were “victims” of conservative oppression. They used to agitate that “the man” was ready to put them in re-education camps, that “the suits” were forcing them to conform to the system, and that their freedom of speech was always on the verge of being eliminated by “the establishment.”

www.therealitycheck.org...

A decent article and very persuasive.

Organizing to Stop Far Right Violence

They have singled out President Obama as their target. Since the real President Obama is not who they describe -- no, he's not the Antichrist, was born in America and doesn't want to kill your grandmother -- they have resorted to lies and intimidation to try and stop his agenda of much needed change. The problem is that I believe that Religious Right leaders and their Republican base are also potentially inciting violence. Within their numbers are unhinged people who also happen to be well armed.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Yet another one with some extreme views from the left.

Are Right Wing Extremists Trying to Recruit Our Troops?

In their own words, "The mission of Oath Keepers is to vastly increase their numbers. We are in a battle for the hearts and minds of our own troops." Direct quote from Oath Keepers. In response to Oath Keepers request to post their story, we will on condition that they change the Oath to the revised one recommended by Veterans Today News Network. Lastly, we want to remind our readers including members of Congress that only the Department of Defense working in cooperation with Homeland Security can determine if groups like Oath Keepers pose a threat to the U.S. Constitution, our legally elected government, and of course Homeland Security. Surely the fact that either left or right-wing extremists groups may be trying to recruit active duty troops can't be based on but one group thus a closer examination is warranted.

www.salem-news.com...

Uh huh, now they have active duty military in the mix.

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To me anyway, I see it like this. The PTB will not let any harm come to someone who will work toward their goals. They will make sure that he is protected.

I'm not sure I buy that, Jack. It seems to me that some people are just as much use as a martyr as they are alive.

I wouldn't wish any harm on the guy, heaven knows I don't care for what I see, but I don't 'see' things too clear sometimes.

As far as we know, harm IS working towards their goals. I hope that Mr. Obama has a very, very long life and that his children are many. I fear for this country and the world. Not because of the president we have in office, but because such an effort is being put forth to polarize and incite everyone.

Left, right, up, down, it really doesn't matter. Nothing and no ONE is being spared. What ever 'enclave' you may call home is being targeted in what seems like a blatantly obvious attempt to make you angry...very angry.

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It should also be noted that the last time a president was kill, the secret service wasn't very good at their job.

Some would say they were, in fact, very, very GOOD at their job.

Prolly all depends on who we listen to, huh?

Originally posted by jackflap

Now this article certainly had me thinking. Is there a right wing hatred running wild? Or is this something that has been put out there for everyone to be swayed one way or the other? If I watch Fox News I am almost inclined to agree with this article. If I watch CNN I am inclined to not agree with this article. It's all so confusing. Who or what is behind this push to sway us really?

The radical right, aided by a GOP Noise Machine that positively dwarfs what existed in 1963, has turned demonizing Obama--making him into a vile object of disgust--into a crusade. It's a demented national jihad, the likes of which this country has not seen in modern times. But I've been thinking about Dallas in 1963 because I've been recalling the history and how that city stood as an outpost for the radical right, which never tried to hide its contempt for the New England Democrat. Today, conservatives are expressing outrage that Rep. Nancy Pelosi had the nerve to raise concerns about the onrush of violent political rhetoric. The Noise Machine claims it has no idea what Pelosi's talking about. But the truth is, America's most famous bouts of political violence (i.e. JFK, Oklahoma City, etc.) have always been accompanied by waves of radical, right-wing rhetoric. Given that history, the GOP's insistence that the hate now filling the streets couldn't possibly inspire violence seems woefully naive.

mediamatters.org...

Is it our desire for strife that feeds this machine? Is it the elite's agendas running against eachother? Or is this article actually summing up what is happening? Is it the reality of our current situation?

Might I remind you that EVERY PRESIDENTIAL attack has been from the LEFT!

Kennedy- Oswald was a COMMUNIST!
Ford-Fromh was a SOCIALIST!
and on and on...

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by jackflap
A President was killed the last time right-wing hatred ran wild like this

Geeeze .. what a bunch of scare mongering and 'left wing hatred running wild' against those that expose the truth about the Obama administration.

Fear mongering Flyers? That is your bread and butter.

You ever wonder if some unstable poster takes you seriously?

Like your posts a while back about census workers? You did hear about that census worker that was found dead with "fed" scrawled across his chest?

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
Because Obama wants to know where our front door is

So he can send his goons to come and get you to put you in one of his 'preventative' gulags ....

But you go ahead and keep it up ...whatever disturbed soul murdered the census worker probably didn't follow your steady postings of fear mongering....right?..You are just a "team player" when it comes to the propaganda parade right?...Whatever you need to tell yourself.

If I ever hear you speak of Fear Mongering again I will vommit.

To suggest the Secret Service wasn't as good in 1963 as now is utter bunk.

The Secret Service was circumvented and in some instances ordered to stand down.

It's not a left/right thing.

Kennedy pissed off the wrong people, and too many of them.

Obama has pissed off many people, and it remains to be seen if he too, pissed off the wrong ones.

Having said that - a lot of buyer's remorse.

Never have I seen a hatred for a President like exists now, and continues to grow, and that includes eleven Presidents.

Let me put it this way.

There isn't enough money to get me to be a Secret Service Agent assigned to protect Obama.

Of course, I'd never take a bullet for that SOB anyway.

Not even a cream pie.

A very good clip on left and right wing stuff. I find it extremely amusing.




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I cannot stand the right or the left wing. Party politics is an evil that will kill America. It is starting to look more and more like Francis Bacon's vision of America as The New Atlantis might have a tragic irony.

Having said that, I would point out that had we not seen the BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) in the Bush years, we likely would not see this hatred now. All i see in political forums is the excuse of "Yeah, well when Bush was president you did...."

First blood was drawn by an ultra radical leftist movement (think Code Pink, Air America, or Michael Moore) that has gotten us the most spend happy president ever (we thought Bush was spendfree...Obama will eclipse the entire Bush tenure of 8 years before his first year is over) in what must be the grandfather of all politcal swings (from hard right neo-con to radical left socialist liberal).

It is all so stupid. We still don't have a regular person in office. The citizens of this nation are not sheep. They are cows. Stupid, bloated, cud chewing cows. We can't even elect a decent president without being distracted by the pretty lights and smooth talk of these party clowns. Shame on all of us.

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It is all so stupid. We still don't have a regular person in office. The citizens of this nation are not sheep. They are cows. Stupid, bloated, cud chewing cows. We can't even elect a decent president without being distracted by the pretty lights and smooth talk of these party clowns. Shame on all of us.

I don't think we should be so down on ourselves. Their is a lot that is involved here. We cannot expect everyone to be able to think outside the box. With that being said, I do not know where you stand on the idea of subliminal influences. I believe I read a thread here that showed that one of the places that study this phenomenon actually endorsed the Obama administration. A large contribution was given to him during the run up to his election.

They dealt with how to influence crowds. Hand gestures and mannerisms. Like I said, the average Joe isn't going to be able to see through any of that. Here at ATS we have people pointing things like this out so we are privy to a lot of it and call it out. Which is why I believe we should have our own ATS news channel booming worldwide. Just kidding. I said in an earlier post about the conquered part being done. The dividing we see now may be people pulling their head out of the sand. I am not sure. Which is why I was questioning the whole thing.