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Ireland Needs Your Help!! **Urgently**

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posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 04:49 PM

Dear Patriots...

We urgently need your help!

As you know Lisbon 2 is around the corner and we need the Irish people to VOTE NO once more.

Most of the Truth Groups in Ireland have started a coalition called Truth Coalition Ireland to work together to fight for a NO VOTE.

1: We have a newspaper ready to print called the "Sovereign Independent". The aim is to post one to every household in Ireland, but this would be a mammoth task which would be almost impossible without everyone’s help and support. We can not stand by and do nothing, so even 50,000 copies in a small country like Ireland will make a huge difference.

2: The Whole Truth Collation UK is coming to Dublin on the 5th of September to lend their support to our goal. They will be holding a Lisbon Treaty information conference with guest speakers including David Icke, Scott Tips, Brian Gerrish and others to be confirmed. The venue will be finalised this coming week. Keep an eye on the Truth Coalition Ireland website for upcoming information....

Please Please.. we need all the help you can give..

The time for the Irish people to vote on Lisbon once again is just around the corner and if we can secure a NO vote we will be sending a message to the corrupt Eurocrats that we will not accept this illegal constitution.

How can you help...?

Donate on one of the websites or pass this on to someone who may help out.

All donations will be used for the printing and distribution of the “Sovereign Independent” newspaper only.

All comments, suggestions and help are very welcome. Please contact any of the groups listed below:

posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 04:58 PM
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know or understand the ramifications of the Lisbon Treaty. In the Caribbean here, and a British Dependency Territory at that. My news sources are what would be thought of as "fringe" or survivalist by many. I watch BBC and CNN for about 1/2 hour in the morning while I'm surfing ATS.

Would you be willing to write out a primer of the treaty and how it affects the EU and Ireland in particular? I read your links -- all of them -- but they seem to presume that I know what's going on.

I admit that it's something I should know about, and seven wags of the finger for me for not having a clue.


posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 05:07 PM
Its ok, most of the Irish public have no idea what its all about either and through no fault of their own. When the treaty got rejected by the French and Dutch it was re-written to be unreadable so it could be pushed through with out anyone kicking up. Many people have tried to read it but different parts of it refer to other treatys and amendments so you would actully need about 5 different documents about the size of a large phone book to work it out.

We have had people trying to unscramble it and so far have done a pretty good job. Here is just some points to note....

1. Would be a power-grab by the Big States for control of the EU by basing EU law-making post-Lisbon primarily on population size. This would double Germany’s voting power in making European laws from its present 8% to 17%, increase Britain’s, France’s and Italy’s from 8% to 12% each, and halve Ireland’s vote to 0.8%. How does having 0.8% of a vote in making EU laws put Ireland at the heart of Europe”? Taoiseach Brian Cowen’s “guarantees” do not explain how having half as much influence in the EU as Ireland has today would induce the other Member States to listen to our concerns on unemployment and help to resolve the economic crisis in the interest of Irish companies, workers and farmers.

2.Would copperfasten the Laval and related judgements of the EU Court of Justice, which put the competition rules of the EU market above the rights of Trade Unions to enforce pay standards higher than the minimum wage for migrant workers. At the same time Lisbon would give the EU full control of immigration policy (Art.79 TFEU).

3. Would permit the post-Lisbon EU to impose Europe-wide taxes directly on us for the first time without need of further Treaties or referendums (Art.311 TFEU).

4. Would amend the existing treaties to give the EU exclusive power as regards rules on foreign direct investment (Arts.206-7 TFEU) and give the Court of Justice the power to order the harmonisation of national indirect taxes if it decides that this causes a distortion of competition in the market (Art.113 TFEU). These changes could undermine our 12.5% corporation profits tax, which is the principal attraction of Ireland for foreign business.

5. Would abolish our present right to “propose” and decide who Ireland’s Commissioner is, by replacing it with a right to make “suggestions” only, leaving it up to the incoming Commission President to decide (Art.17.7 TEU). Our No vote last year secured us a commitment to a permanent Commissioner, but what is the point of every EU State continuing to have its own Commissioner post-Lisbon when it can no longer decide who that Commissioner will be?

6. Would give the European Union the Constitution of an EU Federal State which would have primacy over the Irish and other national Constitutions. This post-Lisbon EU would for the first time be legally separate from and superior to its 27 Member States and would sign international treaties with other States in all areas of its powers (Arts.1 and 47 TEU;/ Declaration 17 concerning Primacy). In constitutional terms Lisbon would thereby turn Ireland into a regional or provincial state within this new Federal-style European Union, with the EU’s Constitution and laws having legal primacy over the Irish Constitution and laws in any cases of conflict between the two.

7. Would turn us into real citizens for the first time of this new post-Lisbon European Union, owing obedience to its laws and loyalty to its authority over and above our obedience and loyalty to Ireland and the Irish Constitution and laws in the event of any conflict between the two. We would still keep our Irish citizenship, but it would be subordinate to our new EU citizenship and the rights and duties vis-a-vis the EU that would attach to that (Art.9 TEU).

posted on Jul, 21 2009 @ 05:08 PM
8. Would give the EU Court of Justice the power to decide our rights as EU citizens by making the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights legally binding for the first time (Art.6 TEU). This would give power to the EU judges to use their case law to lay down a uniform standard of rights for the 500 million citizens of the post-Lisbon Union in the name of a common EU citizenship in the years to come. It would open the possibility of clashes with national human rights standards in sensitive areas where Member States differ from one another at present, e.g. trial by jury, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty,habeas corpus, the legalisation of hard drugs, euthanasia, abortion, labour law, succession law, marriage law, children’s rights etc. Ireland’s Supreme Court and the Strasbourg Court of Human Rights would no longer have the final say on what our rights are.

9. Would abolish the national veto Ireland has at present by handing over to the EU the power to make laws binding on us in 32 new policy areas, including public services, crime, justice and policing, immigration, energy, transport, tourism, sport, culture, public health, the EU budget and international measures on climate change.

10. Would reduce the power of National Parliaments to make laws in relation to 49 policy areas or matters, and increase the influence of the European Parliament in making EU laws in 19 new areas (See for the two lists).

11. Would be a self-amending Treaty which would permit the EU Prime Ministers and Presidents to shift most remaining EU policy areas where unanimity is required and a national veto still exists – for example on tax harmonisation – to qualified majority voting on the EU Council of Ministers, without need of further EU Treaties or referendums(Art.48 TEU).

12. Would enable the 27 EU Prime Ministers to appoint an EU President for up to five years without allowing voters any say as to who he or she would be – thereby abolishing the present six-monthly rotating EU presidencies (Art.15.5 TEU).

13. Would militarize the EU further, requiring Member States “progressively to improve their military capabilities” (Art.42.3 TEU)
and to aid and assist other Member States experiencing armed attack “by all the means in their power” (Art.42.7 TEU).

TEU=/ Treaty on European Union/ as amended by the Lisbon Treaty
TFEU=/ Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union/ as amended by the Lisbon Treaty

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