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Originally posted by mckyle
As a result, it won't just be Washington mulling over the next move, there will be much consternation in Beijing over this situation too.
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Originally posted by Brainiac
Yeah that's what they'd do. It would be the same as F-15's bombing Germany in the 1940's...
With the U.S. Tactical Surgical Strike ability, any "farm" I mean facility North Korea has could be pinpoint decimated without so much as anything else damaged 5000 ft from ground zero...
"WASHINGTON--Data released piecemeal by U.S. and European military authorities are finally painting a well-rounded portrait of NATO's bombardment of Yugoslavia--and showing how limited its effects have been.
The figures indicate that while more than five weeks of pounding have badly damaged important parts of the nation's military infrastructure, Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic retains many of his field forces and air defenses, and much of his fuel and ammunition. His forces generally can communicate with each other, maneuver and arrange for resupply.
The Yugoslav army still has 80% to 90% of its tanks, 75% of its most sophisticated surface-to-air missiles and 60% of its MIG fighter planes, according to official estimates released during the past week. And although NATO warplanes have blown up the major rail links into Kosovo, five of the province's eight major roads remain at least partially passable, according to British officials.
Yugoslav troops in Kosovo still have nearly half their resupply capability, the Pentagon estimated last week, and Milosevic's military has been able to maintain--or perhaps even expand--the force of 40,000 it had there when the air campaign began March 24.
Despite NATO's ability to strike big, immobile targets with precision weapons, its warplanes have failed to attack 80% of the Yugoslav army's barracks. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces have also left untouched, or only lightly damaged, 80% of Yugoslavia's ammunition depots, officials say.
Despite the damage to many of its best planes, the MIG fighters, the Yugoslav air force still has 380 of its 450 aircraft. Eight of the country's 17 airfields have not been struck, and six more have sustained only moderate or light damage.
Although Clark declared that the Serbs' integrated air defense system is now "ineffective" overall, it remains a powerful defensive weapon: It has kept NATO planes generally at altitudes above 15,000 feet, too high to most effectively hit Milosevic's field forces.
www.aeronautics.ru...
Despite the heavy bombardment, NATO was surprised to find afterwards that the Serbian armed forces had survived in such good order. Around 50 Serbian aircraft were lost but only 14 tanks, 18 APCs and 20 artillery pieces.[12] Most of the targets hit in Kosovo were decoys, such as tanks made out of plastic sheets with telegraph poles for gun barrels. Anti-aircraft defences were preserved by the simple expedient of not turning them on, preventing NATO aircraft from detecting them but forcing them to keep above a ceiling of 15,000ft (5,000m), making accurate bombing much more difficult. Towards the end of the war, it was claimed that carpet bombing by B-52 aircraft had caused huge casualties among Serbian troops stationed along the Kosovo–Albania border. Careful searching by NATO investigators found no evidence of any such large-scale casualties.
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The U.S. bombers would not even be seen, nor be in any type of threat, from North Korea's World War II era technology...
Originally posted by SaraThustra
Iraq most certainly did have WMD's - they used them against the Kurds killing tens of thousands of people.
WMD does not mean nuclear - it means nuclear OR biological OR chemical weapon of mass destruction.
Originally posted by Electro38
So who's at risk? And why do you think they're at risk?
(I believe the answer is only S. Korea and Japan, in the immediate future.)
Originally posted by bpg131313
I read your post and gave it some thought. This is what I’ve come up with.
1. Who is at risk? The one reacting the strongest right now is Japan. Hillary Clinton said just yesterday that we would protect Japan and South Korea from any attacks.
The people of South Korea are all at risk due to the massive amount of troops in North Korea along the DMZ. That’s two entire nations at risk. Technically, their missiles could hit as far as Alaska and Hawaii, but I doubt they’d target those sites.
2. Why do I think they are at risk? I’ve been there. Did my time. I know what it’s like to constantly drill for NBC attack. It’s not fun. It’s a very real possibility. North Korea has both Biological and Chemical weapons that can easily reach both Japan and South Korea. (PDF - See Page 20)
3. Why do we need to be involved if our land isn’t significantly at risk (AK & HI aside)? It’s because we have protection agreements with Japan and South Korea.
We promised to protect them (though at the time we thought we’d be protecting them from the U.S.S.R.)
So to answer your question, you’re right. The two primary parties that are threatened are South Korea and Japan. We are involved because we’ve agreed to protect them.
Originally posted by Myendica
reply to post by Electro38
alright i hear ya on that. i suppose there isnt much to do, except a tougher embargo and restrictions. i just thought from the beginning we should have treated it differently, since like, i dont know, 8 to 15 years ago. we always seem to treat countries like crap and expect them to accept our rules when they get a little power. we shouldnt tread on weaker countries as much as we have. because everyone know the little twirps eventually get their big brothers.
Originally posted by Heisenberg
Without the aid, support, and generiousity of the United States, these people would be even worse shape than they are now.
Look how hollywood goes to these countries and praises them...and at the same time, denounces the US as a country which is mean, etc....
There is a reason why the US has the best quality of life.
Go to China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran, or Venezuela and openly complain about the regimes....what would happen?
Originally posted by mckyle
Extract From The Australian Newspaper
"The US-led UN Command in South Korea yesterday rejected the Korean People's Army repudiation of the armistice agreement and said it remained binding on all parties, including the North Koreans. The regime said on Wednesday that it was no longer bound by the armistice, that legally a state of war had resumed on the Korean peninsula and that it would attack any force that tried to halt or inspect its shipping. "The armistice has served as the legal basis for the ceasefire in Korea for over 55 years and significantly contributes to stability in the region," a UN Command spokesman said. "The armistice remains in force and is binding on all signatories, including North Korea. The UN Command will adhere to the terms of the armistice and the mechanisms that support it."
I still stand by my initial claim. The armistice is still intact. It's dissolution can only come about by joint declaration or recommencement of hostilities by all parties.
Originally posted by CZBR51
North Korea to be attacked; U.S. Nuclear first strike "likely" - Trustable info?
turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Washington, DC (TRN) -- North Korea yesterday withdrew from the Armistice that halted the Korean War. Today, official Washington is abuzz with not so secret "Top Secret" plans for the United States to make a limited nuclear first strike to wipe out the North Korean threat in one fell swoop.
Russia has been alerted to "make plans" for radiation fallout in its eastern border area......
The US "will not accept" a nuclear-armed North Korea, the country's defence secretary has told a meeting of his Asian counterparts.
Speaking in Singapore, Robert Gates said Washington would "not stand idly by as North Korea builds the capability to wreak destruction on any target".
Earlier, the US said activity in the North could indicate plans for a new long-range missile test.
Originally posted by CZBR51
Washington, DC (TRN) -- North Korea yesterday withdrew from the Armistice that halted the Korean War. Today, official Washington is abuzz with not so secret "Top Secret" plans for the United States to make a limited nuclear first strike to wipe out the North Korean threat in one fell swoop.
Russia has been alerted to "make plans" for radiation fallout in its eastern border area......