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Anyone else Questioning Max Employment?

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posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 01:55 PM
Regarding the current state of macro-economics, does anybody else get this feeling? If you watch TV news (uff) the discussion is constantly about keeping employment out of the double-digits. Jobloss here jobless there, etc. There wouldn't be a department called the Bereau of labor statistics if deceiving people about employment figures wasn't important. That is, its important to the current global-economic society we as all humans live within.
Is this component of economic theory really that important? Is there another, new way of thinking about keeping the society running through high productivity? Have there been any notable economists that have argued this?
I know most people think the notion is just too far outside the box but instead of existing as units of labor within an economic system that renders you expendable isn't there another way of thinking?
I know that Venus project in Florida advocates something like this but again it requires a broader revolution of humanity I suppose.

Does anyone else feel like this is actually bologna and that in order to induce real change we should just quit worrying about employment? Frig it.

I think that this would be a necessary in order to make the next evolutionary step so everybody quitting there jobs tomorrow probably wouldn't work. But perhaps we're all witness to the failure of capitalism in which the whole concept of private enterprise operating as institutions we call corporations is impractical and a threat to our well-being. That I just don't like the idea of "working." Maybe if we all quit tomorrow that would work.
Guess I'll have to wait til 2012 or WW3 and the day when greed is trumped by a common interest in prosperity and growth and nature, etc.
In my estimation a total abandon of the current employment system would only evaporate when money and private property did too. Who knows?

BTW-I'm no Utopian commie/socialist cult guy just a sour working-class stiff.

[edit on 24-2-2009 by Moonsouljah]

posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 03:59 PM
reply to post by Moonsouljah
The way they want economic growth to be is business-as-usual, continued economic growth, even at the cost of the environment, even if the prospects for increase in the GNP are impossible, for example the increase in retiring workers, declining birthrate but they have (dishonorable?) ways to prevent loss of forecasted economic growth.

In Canada for example, they have abolished the mandatory retirement age, to let anybody work well beyond their retirement age (Who the hell would one want to do that, right?) But see! they create incentives to keep people working (such as lower standards of living and higher cost of living) So it will be less attractive for people to leave work because they have enough money. (What? did anyone think corporations would pay more money to employees as incentive?) HAHA!


Yes, what is happening here is that people can no longer afford to retire or to live, so viola, they stay longer in the workforce because they need money, and prevents the expected loss in economy gains due to workforce loss (at least for the very wealthy)

The economy rolls on, serious financial loss averted, but the average worker, and much less, the average Third World labourer, will not gain anything... but the right to live

posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 04:07 PM
Personally I believe that our way of life needs to change....

Force disclosure of all scientific accomplishments, most notably secret energy technologies (most of which has ironically been funded by taxpayers themselves)

End the waging of wars and black hole defense budgets.

Place greater emphasis on self sufficiency, such as Solar technology and self-farming, put the stock back in our hands so to speak.

Greater emphasis on trades education and not secondary education such as Accounting, corporate management, or any other useless skills or anything involved with the Fiat currency system, that does nobody else any good.

Then it will be a better world that many can be proud of.

posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 06:34 PM
reply to post by star in a jar

Yeah I'm in your boat. --Especially disclosure of all technologies.
All of these things I suppose would erupt at once. Same old story- a idealistic fantasy.
Alas, the power brokers probably aren't benevolent and change likely won't come.

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