Homosexual Agenda?

I keep hearing from posters about this big conspiracy of the gay agenda. Now, what I want to know is huh?

1. Stop shoving your lifestyle down our throats.

Hmmm...since we were born, haven't we had the hetero lifestyle "shoved down our throats". So, why is it so offensive to have a little diversity. And who is shoving anything down your throat.....other than your male "buddy" whom you have "down low" experiments with?

2. Why should we give gays special priveleges?

I don't know what special priveleges we are asking for other than the same rights and benefits that the straight population already has. If you could site something, that would be great. Then we can debate about how it's not right to have one group of citizens having more privelege than the rest.....oh, wait, I'm talking about homosexuals and not heterosexuals huh?

Feel free to add more or debate on the 2 mentioned.

I'm not even sure if what I'm about to say is relevant, but if one throughout history, homosexuality has been prevalent from the ancient greeks and romans to the present. I'm sure I can say more, I'm just not feeling to good right now.

No offence, but I am soooo tired of arguing this topic. If you want the right to live your life how you see fit then don't deny others of that same right. You just can't argue logic with bible thumping hypocrates.

I am not trying to start with any one; I don't have the energy to :bnghd: lately. I just find it surprising that at a site where the motto is deny ignorance that there are so many embracing it.

Originally posted by Jonna
No offence, but I am soooo tired of arguing this topic. If you want the right to live your life how you see fit then don't deny others of that same right. You just can't argue logic with bible thumping hypocrates.

I am not trying to start with any one; I don't have the energy to :bnghd: lately. I just find it surprising that at a site where the motto is deny ignorance that there are so many embracing it.

Taken from:
Traditionalvalues.com
The homosexual agenda:

"At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more.
We do not need and cannot expect a full "appreciation" or "understanding" of
homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade
the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think
that it is just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal
and social rights is virtually won. And to get to shoulder-shrug stage, gays as a class
must cease to appear mysterious, alien, loathsome and contrary. A large-scale
media campaign will be required in order to change the image of gays in America.
And any campaign to accomplish this turnaround should do six things.
[1] TALK ABOUT GAYS AND GAYNESS AS LOUDLY AND AS OFTEN AS
POSSIBLE.
The principle behind this advice is simple: almost any behavior begins to look normal
if you are exposed to enough of it at close quarters and among your acquaintances.
The acceptability of the new behavior will ultimately hinge on the number of one's
fellows doing it or accepting it. One may be offended by its novelty at first--many, in
times past, were momentarily scandalized by "streaking,'' eating goldfish, and
premarital sex. But as long as Joe Six-pack feels little pressure to perform likewise,
and as long as the behavior in question presents little threat to his physical and
financial security, he soon gets used to it and life goes on. The skeptic may still
shake his head and think "people arc crazy these days," but over time his objections
are likely to become more reflective, more philosophical, less emotional.
The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people
talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. Open and frank
talk makes the subject seem less furtive, alien, and sinful, more above-board.
Constant talk builds the impression that public opinion is at least divided on the
subject, and that a sizable segment accepts or even practices homosexuality. Even
rancorous debates between opponents and defenders serve the purpose of
desensitization so long as "respectable" gays are front and center to make their own
pitch. The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome"

The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome"

Well, I guess we've done enough of that on this board. Thanks for the info also. So, I guess this is what they mean when they say "shoving it down our throats"? I actually don't know if that works. Look at the black society....we started seeing black shows and all, but there is still alot of racism in the country. I guess that can go back to so much that we see on tv and films and such is mostly the steriotypical gay, black man, hispanic etc.

......Is a CHOICE! It is not a weligion, or ethnic group, or even a skin color....it is a CHOICE! Why should the rest of society have to listen to your snivvling, shinning, BITCHING! You made a choice that society doesn't agree with. You have the same rights as I do...For 1 man to marry 1 women or ! women to marry 1 man. Don't bitch, cause I DON'T CARE. What you do in private is your business!!! What you do in society is everyones business!!! Stay at home...do the bone dance with Mr. Spincter.....But don't try to tell me it's allright! Tab A (a penis) goes into Slot B (A Vagina) plain and simple. If the gay idea is correct, then why are the rest of us around? It takes a man and a woman for procreation....Not Bob and Jim or Sue and Jane! If being gay were correct....THEN THE HUMAN RACE WOULD BE EXTINCT!!!!!

I agree with CSrules, although, I dont care whether gays get married or not. How will it affect me? Probably not at all.

I might be what you call a "bible-thumper", but I am open-minded to what other people want to do as long as it doesnt affect me.

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Studies haved proved over the years that the percentage of gays in a population remains fairly constant, about 10%, generation after generation. So, CSRules, your extinction argument is bogus.

Venus:

How has social acceptance of streaking or swallowing goldfish threatened or changed your own lifestyle? And nobody is asking Joe Sixpack to become gay, are they? Sinful? Does that mean that your own religious beliefs are more valid than someone else's? Nobody is asking Joe Sixpack to think gays are normal, either. Gays are merely asking for the same rights as straights. Given that they are human beings, why shouldn't they enjoy those same rights?

I say, just practice the Golden Rule with them. That's all they ask.



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Agenda is kind of a farcical word to apply to basic human rights. Sexuality is not a choice, so why penalize it like it is?

Originally posted by jsobecky

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Venus:

How has social acceptance of streaking or swallowing goldfish threatened or changed your own lifestyle?

It hasn't. I have always done it and always will...LOL


Gays are merely asking for the same rights as straights. Given that they are human beings, why shouldn't they enjoy those same rights?

I agree that they are human beings! I do not agree that that is all they are "merely' asking for. I believe they want to destroy the tradition of "marriage" and make a mockery of family values. They do deserve "civil unions" and I'm sure they will get that.





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Originally posted by Venus

Originally posted by jsobecky

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Venus:

How has social acceptance of streaking or swallowing goldfish threatened or changed your own lifestyle?

It hasn't. I have always done it and always will...LOL

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And I sincerely regret that I was not there to see it...

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Originally posted by CSRules
......Is a CHOICE! It is not a weligion, or ethnic group, or even a skin color....it is a CHOICE! Why should the rest of society have to listen to your snivvling, shinning, BITCHING! You made a choice that society doesn't agree with. You have the same rights as I do...For 1 man to marry 1 women or ! women to marry 1 man. Don't bitch, cause I DON'T CARE. What you do in private is your business!!! What you do in society is everyones business!!! Stay at home...do the bone dance with Mr. Spincter.....But don't try to tell me it's allright! Tab A (a penis) goes into Slot B (A Vagina) plain and simple. If the gay idea is correct, then why are the rest of us around? It takes a man and a woman for procreation....Not Bob and Jim or Sue and Jane! If being gay were correct....THEN THE HUMAN RACE WOULD BE EXTINCT!!!!!

I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I was BORN straight. If you chose your sexuality as you claim gays do, then you must really be a bi-sexual. How nice for you. And when exactly was it you decided to go straight anyhoo? (assuming you did)

Originally posted by RANT
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I was BORN straight. If you chose your sexuality as you claim gays do, then you must really be a bi-sexual. How nice for you. And when exactly was it you decided to go straight anyhoo? (assuming you did)

Can you prove it? Being born straight that is.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Can you prove it? Being born straight that is.

I know for a fact I never made a decision to be straight or otherwise. If you are of the "it's a choice" opinion, then can you tell us when you decided to be what you are?

Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Can you prove it? Being born straight that is.

I know for a fact I never made a decision to be straight or otherwise. If you are of the "it's a choice" opinion, then can you tell us when you decided to be what you are?

You are confusing concious choice with choice. It doesn't seem to always be a thing that someone sits and ponders, make a decision and follow through with it.

There are many things in your life that follow the same idea.

-Alcoholism (being that you have the "gene")
-Stealing
-work ethic

to name a few.

Originally posted by jsobecky
And I sincerely regret that I was not there to see it...

just click the link below:

www.venusstreakswhileswallowinggoldfish.com

Originally posted by Venus

Originally posted by jsobecky
And I sincerely regret that I was not there to see it...

just click the link below:

www.venusstreakswhileswallowinggoldfish.com

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You big tease, you. I had my mood music going and everything!

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[Edited on 13-4-2004 by jsobecky]

[Edited on 13-4-2004 by jsobecky]

I would say I'm 99% certain it is not a choice and even if giving space to that other 1% I'd have to add that, however it was manifested, the feeling has to be so profound and deeply entrenched that it would be virtually indistinguishable from orientation anyway, what it is most definately NOT is waking up one morning and wanting to be really contoversial, outrageous shocking and pervy and deciding that 'being gay' fits the bill. Therefore to pursue the 'they chose, therefore they deserve all they get' line of thinking of some still exposes them as intolerant hateful idiots really.

I have thought about homosexuallity extensively.

The basic purpose for all life is to:

1. Live
2.Procreate
3.Die

Being gay goes against the basic purpose for all life. However, the only reason we procreate is to keep the species alive. There are way too many humans on the earth at this point.

My question to Homosexuals is: Did you consiously(sp) choose to be gay. Did you weigh the pros and the cons and say, "I think being gay would be cool." Or did you realize, "Hey, I'm Gay."

If it is not a complete choice where you decided then i think give Homosexual's equal rights. If you chose, i think that was stupid. Who would choose to be discriminated.

P.S. Gay men can have all the rights you want. Just make your pornsites names clearly different from straight sites. I stumbled on a Gay site once and it proved to me that i am straight.

It was a process of realisation, terror then denial, more realisation more denial etc, etc, then gradual acceptance but still fear at being 'found out' then more acceptence then CHOOSING to act upon my feelings and admitting it.

PS The same thing happened to me with porn in reverse, it definately proved I'm not straight.